VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Manifest: Shadows Over Manston [v2.2] [White Phantom Games]

[galora]

Hahah the dev is really making sure to know if we want prego content or not XD

 

[Ayhsel]

388 renders a quite low for something that took so long to update. That's like a standard monthly update for most games.

Considering where this game is after 2 years and how many times it has been redone, telling me to sub to him for him to push out more content is not the smartest thing.

So you won't support but demand he uses his free time to develop more content? I wanna play that game too.

I demand you use your time to produce 1000 renders of content, with an amazing plot and characters once a month. Free of charge, of course. And all in one go, no corrections.

Hey, I like this game of demanding stuff for free! Tick, tock.. get to work, little fellow!

 

[galora]

So you won't support but demand he uses his free time to develop more content? I wanna play that game too.

I demand you use your time to produce 1000 renders of content, with an amazing plot and characters once a month. Free of charge, of course. And all in one go, no corrections.

Tick, tock.. get to work, little fellow!

Hey, I like this game!

Spoiler: Joke ahead, with explanation

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[Ayhsel]

Any first demo/intro should be at least 1GB, then 500MB per update... but how to punish them if we can't cut their funding?

First, file size has nothing to do with the amount of content. Fata Morgana is 400MB and is longer than most novels here. Midlife Crisis was around 4GB and you could read everything in a few hours tops.

Second, different games have way different requirements. Not the same to produce on Daz than Honey Select. Even in the same system, one thing is a story with 5 characters and almost identical renders than totally different sceneries with a few dozen unique characters.

Third, different devs have different assets and constraints. It is not the same to ask White Phantom than to ask the team of Ecchi Sensei. Not just in computer/man power, but also individual circunstances.

You can punish developers by retiring your funding if they straight up lie. But if you just to go a pirate forum to free ride somebody's else work, the least you can do is have the decorum of not demanding more stuff. Otherwise, you better be opened to have some other entitled bitch do the same to you.

EDIT: not my intention to make it sound so harsh, galora. My frustration was totally not directed to you, but you got caught unfairly in the crossfire. I apologize for that.

 

[Bluballz]

Well done

 

[dani31]

i realy dont now what you are doing, i replay the games so many times, but i nerver can go intiminate with penelppe.

Try these codes on dev console

DominantWife = False
SubmissiveWife = True

Heres a modified save file for Penelope scene.

 

[galora]

First, file size has nothing to do with the amount of content. Fata Morgana is 400MB and is longer than most novels here. Midlife Crisis was around 4GB and you could read everything in a few hours tops.

Second, different games have way different requirements. Not the same to produce on Daz than Honey Select. Even in the same system, one thing is a story with 5 characters and almost identical renders than totally different sceneries with a few dozen unique characters.

Third, different devs have different assets and constraints. It is not the same to ask White Phantom than to ask the team of Ecchi Sensei. Not just in computer/man power, but also individual circunstances.

You can punish developers by retiring your funding if they straight up lie. But if you just to go a pirate forum to free ride somebody's else work, the least you can do is have the decorum of not demanding more stuff. Otherwise, you better be opened to have some other entitled bitch do the same to you.

Spoiler: Just me going passive agressive for no reason <3

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[Ayhsel]

Not sure if I'm reading this as hostile wrongly, agree with everything you said and was kind of trying to pile on about the 1000 renders... Good renders often are heavy wasn't talking about text... Beg your forgiveness Have a nice Evening

Oh sorry if it sounded that way! It was totally not my intention and I deeply apologize if it sounded hostile.

It really was my bad, I first was trying to mention the distinction between size and content and later kept on venting my frustration on the previous post. It was not directed to you, I again apologize for that!

Added an edit to the comment so that it is clear!

 

[galora]

Oh sorry if it sounded that way! It was totally not my intention and I deeply apologize if it sounded hostile.

It really was my bad, I first was trying to mention the distinction between size and content and later kept on venting my frustration on the previous post. It was not directed to you, I again apologize for that!

Haha don't worry about it, I've been playing a little bit too much RocketLeague lately and boy is that community toxic, I'm all kinds of paranoid. Kind of got annoyed by your answer straight away ^^ I need to stop playing that game and spend more time here to detox... Sorry aswell (Loved the Rebirth discussion, hit me harder than I'd like to admit seeing this side of you)

 

[Ayhsel]

Haha don't worry about it, I've been playing a little bit too much RocketLeague lately and boy is that community toxic, I'm all kinds of paranoid. Kind of got annoyed by your answer straight away ^^ I need to stop playing that game and spend more time here to detox... Sorry aswell (Loved the Rebirth discussion, kind of hit me harder than I'd like to admit seeing this side of you)

My bad, really, I tend to forget that while posting you need to be more clear, communication subtleties are harder to grasp, like sarcarsm, for example...
Just to make it explicit, I was not talking about you when I mentioned "entitled bitch", it was a continuation of my previous post. "I can also be an entitled bitch asking for free content as you do, but I will direct it to you", but you is not you here XD

 

[galora]

My bad, really, I tend to forget that while posting you need to be more clear, communication subtleties are harder to grasp, like sarcarsm, for example...
Just to make it explicit, I was not talking about you when I mentioned "entitled bitch", it was a continuation of my previous post. "I can also be an entitled bitch asking for free content as you do, but I will direct it to you", but you is not you here XD

Hahah really no worries, understood right away [edit: after the first reply to my passive agressive one]! I need to stop polluting every thread I write on with some weird debate so I'll so tell you right away not to answer : I do enjoy think about communication problems generally, they are regularly more obvious online but often just as hard to grasp IRL, especially when emotions are involved. And boy do I need to be less tilted by messages online! What a roller coaster of emotions Have a very nice evening xD Death to ungrateful leeches! (only the ungrateful ones otherwise I'm in big trouble)

 

[FrankFurters]

First, file size has nothing to do with the amount of content. Fata Morgana is 400MB and is longer than most novels here. Midlife Crisis was around 4GB and you could read everything in a few hours tops.

Second, different games have way different requirements. Not the same to produce on Daz than Honey Select. Even in the same system, one thing is a story with 5 characters and almost identical renders than totally different sceneries.

Third, different devs have different assets and constraints. It is not the same to ask White Phantom than to ask the team of Ecchi Sensei. Not just in computer/man power, but also individual circunstances.

You can punish developers by retiring your funding if they straight up lie. But if you just to go a pirate forum to free ride somebody's else work, the least you can do is have the decorum of not demanding more stuff. Otherwise, you better be opened to have some other entitled bitch do the same to you.

I love how the dev is a guy who is a law student and works while doing this as a hobby for less than $300 a month gross and people getting his labor and capital for free are demanding that he churn massive monthly updates.

Go complain on Icstor's thread where you might have a point to make.

 

[Ty4Sharing]

Any first demo/intro should be at least 1GB, then 500MB per update... but how to punish them if we can't cut their funding?

This is exactly what's wrong with many members of the Patreon community.
You don't give them money and say, hey, doggie, jump! That's not how being a patron works.
Ideally, you give money, and TRUST the artist to do what they'd like based on what you've seen before. Now, at any point 2 things can happen. One, the patron decides to or can no longer afford to support the artist. Two, the artist changes direction in their art. One does not begat the other. Two should happen independently of One, and vica versa.
Giving money on Patreon should be akin to giving a present to a kid. Maybe it will get appreciated, maybe it will get broken on day one, maybe it will be their favorite toy. You give the gift KNOWING that it could be a waste, but you are going to give anyway.
On a more persoanal note... Punish them?? On behalf of all artists, everywhere:
Fuck you, buddy, get off any site where art is given away for free. You effing male version of a Karen.

 

[regis nex]

Excited for this update! A few good VNs came out today!!

Thanks for the android the 66!

here is my unofficial android port of Shadows Over Manston Retold v.2.

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from now on my android ports of Ren'Py games have a 2nd, persistent save location like windows. if you uninstall an app, the save files and persistent data remain intact.
therefore the app needs the permission to access the public external storage, because it has to read and write outside its own external storage directories.
you have to grant the permission or the app is shut down.

have fun and please report problems (you can reach me

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updated: 29.06.2020

 

[trumpthatbitch]

I love how the dev is a guy who is a law student and works while doing this as a hobby for less than $300 a month gross and people getting his labor and capital for free are demanding that he churn massive monthly updates.

Go complain on Icstor's thread where you might have a point to make.

There is a reason why he is only getting 300 a month. This is his 3rd restart. He started in 2018 and more then two years later he is pretty much right where he started.

I played this version to see if there much new content and there isn't. So you can criticize the poster all you want but it's self-defeating because unlike ICSTOR who is still raking in thousands this dev isn't.

 

[FrankFurters]

There is a reason why he is only getting 300 a month. This is his 3rd restart. He started in 2018 and more then two years later he is pretty much right where he started.

I played this version to see if there much new content and there isn't. So you can criticize the poster all you want but it's self-defeating because unlike ICSTOR who is still raking in thousands this dev isn't.

The point is he's a hobbyist.

Here, since you are stuggling with the concept, allow me to help you on that:

Hobbyist, noun

1. A person who pursues an activity or interest for pleasure or relaxation and not as a main occupation. ex: "His hobbies included making virtual porn and posting it on the interwebs."

Help him offset his costs or not - whatevs. This is a pirate site. Crying and whining about what some guy you don't know does in his spare time at no expense to you is a bit... uh, odd.

 

[Vfgbyb gtvybby]

Does the game have any animation. Thanks

 

[galora]

This is exactly what's wrong with many members of the Patreon community.
You don't give them money and say, hey, doggie, jump! That's not how being a patron works.
Ideally, you give money, and TRUST the artist to do what they'd like based on what you've seen before. Now, at any point 2 things can happen. One, the patron decides to or can no longer afford to support the artist. Two, the artist changes direction in their art. One does not begat the other. Two should happen independently of One, and vica versa.
Giving money on Patreon should be akin to giving a present to a kid. Maybe it will get appreciated, maybe it will get broken on day one, maybe it will be their favorite toy. You give the gift KNOWING that it could be a waste, but you are going to give anyway.
On a more persoanal note... Punish them?? On behalf of all artists, everywhere:
Fuck you, buddy, get off any site where art is given away for free. You effing male version of a Karen.

Wow okay Ayhsel I think I was the whole problem.

Buddy it was a joke, it obviously isn't clear enough even if you have read the post I'm replying to... (I'll edit it to be more explicit)... I agree with what you say apart from the insults at the end, no hard feelings, though I'm not sure who Karen is... don't know if it's a sick burn or not
EDIT: Think I got the Karen things, just a generic annoying Karen?

 

[desmosome]

I just want to say again that the newspaper clips about the Littunen crisis is some of the most interesting writing in a porn game.

 

[Teflonmike]

What route do you have to be on for the spanking scene ?