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The game was decent and enjoyable until the MC suggested onlyfans randomly for angela to make money despite them alrdy being wealthy....It's a cuck move and kinda asshole like to basically push her to be even more than an instagram ho. She has 0 redeeming qualities and being unable to avoid her made me just quit.

I wouldn't want a LI in a harem to be a stripper, how is this different?

edit: I'm seeing later she then basically becomes an escort lol wtf. What's the point of being the only man surrounded by girls if u are going to do this? All of this just makes the MC come off as a bad brother tbh.
 
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The game was decent and enjoyable until the MC suggested onlyfans randomly for angela to make money despite them alrdy being wealthy....It's a cuck move and kinda asshole like to basically push her to be even more than an instagram ho. She has 0 redeeming qualities and being unable to avoid her made me just quit.

I wouldn't want a LI in a harem to be a stripper, how is this different?

edit: I'm seeing later she then basically becomes an escort lol wtf. What's the point of being the only man surrounded by girls if u are going to do this? All of this just makes the MC come off as a bad brother tbh.
Thank you! I'm very grateful that one of my characters succeeds so much passion and interest :).
I've already answered these questions about Angela and I won't do it again, that's a bit why I've lost interest in this site...
I can't satisfy everyone, and I don't want to fall into clichés like everyone's pretty and everyone's nice, so yes, this is a game for adults with adult themes.
 

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Thank you! I'm very grateful that one of my characters succeeds so much passion and interest :).
I've already answered these questions about Angela and I won't do it again, that's a bit why I've lost interest in this site...
I can't satisfy everyone, and I don't want to fall into clichés like everyone's pretty and everyone's nice, so yes, this is a game for adults with adult themes.
I understand trying to be different, but no good brother would do wat the MC did. I think illogical character decisions are worse than clichés and harm the story far more. IMO in an effort to avoid clichés you ended up in one anyway. I'm not trying to discourage you since I liked it till angela, but this is my honest critique and I hope u see it as such.
 

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The game was decent and enjoyable until the MC suggested onlyfans randomly for angela to make money despite them alrdy being wealthy....It's a cuck move and kinda asshole like to basically push her to be even more than an instagram ho. She has 0 redeeming qualities and being unable to avoid her made me just quit.

I wouldn't want a LI in a harem to be a stripper, how is this different?

edit: I'm seeing later she then basically becomes an escort lol wtf. What's the point of being the only man surrounded by girls if u are going to do this? All of this just makes the MC come off as a bad brother tbh.
IIRC, she decides to stop with the in person prostitution after she needs to call the MC to help her out of a situation with one of her simps. She later brings the MC in to do her OF stuff with her too, so the game does eventually focuses her in more on the MC.

Edit: Even while doing the in person prostitution thing, she never ends up fucking anyone. The only guys she fucks so far is the MC, other than the boyfriend she had before the game started.
 
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I understand trying to be different, but no good brother would do wat the MC did. I think illogical character decisions are worse than clichés and harm the story far more. IMO in an effort to avoid clichés you ended up in one anyway. I'm not trying to discourage you since I liked it till angela, but this is my honest critique and I hope u see it as such.
Yeah, it's not that big of a deal to me but I chuckled at the "didn't want to fall into clichés" since the camgirl stuff is one of those extremely overused tropes in these games like: yoga, photoshoot/modeling, clothes shopping, applying sunscreen, massages, games like "truth or date", etc.
 

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Yeah, it's not that big of a deal to me but I chuckled at the "didn't want to fall into clichés" since the camgirl stuff is one of those extremely overused tropes in these games like: yoga, photoshoot/modeling, clothes shopping, applying sunscreen, massages, games like "truth or date", etc.
Ok sorry maybe I should have read up on the situations you mention and their popularity in this kind of game, I can't really say I'm an expert in “porn-gaming”.
But let's face it, these situations are known to be erotic :).
 
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I haven't played the game yet, just have it on watch, but if the conversation so far is on a Li becoming a cam girl or whatever, I have seen my fair share of threads where people become upset about it in their own reasons why, such as them saying the girl or girls are no different from a used up whore etc. at that point and rather avoid a relationship with them since they are showing off their bodies to other dudes and in return might get creepy stalkers who want to do stuff to them etc. so guess it does cause a bit of a stir to some people.
 
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I haven't played the game yet, just have it on watch, but if the conversation so far is on a Li becoming a cam girl or whatever, I have seen my fair share of threads where people become upset about it in their own reasons why, such as them saying the girl or girls are no different from a used up whore etc. at that point and rather avoid a relationship with them since they are showing off their bodies to other dudes and in return might get creepy stalkers who want to do stuff to them etc. so guess it does cause a bit of a stir to some people.
Well that's the thing. For some people, exhibition is a turn on, not a necessary "revenue stream" because they need the money. People that don't have a thing for exhibition don't understand it, and as a result they get turned off and blame it on the plot/etc, which would be an incorrect knee-jerk reaction to what is a kink for many people.

I don't see it as a problem for the plot at all if one of the LIs wants to do that, or if the MC wants to help or even take part. I personally get into exhibition wherever possible, and think it adds spice to a particular fetish, whether or not it's a plot device.
 
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Well that's the thing. For some people, exhibition is a turn on, not a necessary "revenue stream" because they need the money. People that don't have a thing for exhibition don't understand it, and as a result they get turned off and blame it on the plot/etc, which would be an incorrect knee-jerk reaction to what is a kink for many people.

I don't see it as a problem for the plot at all if one of the LIs wants to do that, or if the MC wants to help or even take part. I personally get into exhibition wherever possible, and think it adds spice to a particular fetish, whether or not it's a plot device.
I guess if that is the case or was the intention behind it probably could've been other ways to do it such as the Mc and that Li find ways to be nude at places probably to do sexual things all the while avoiding being seen that seems more thrilling and all then a Li becoming a cam girl etc. and probably a lot safer in a way if they are really stealthy.
 

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I guess if that is the case or was the intention behind it probably could've been other ways to do it such as the Mc and that Li find ways to be nude at places probably to do sexual things all the while avoiding being seen that seems more thrilling and all then a Li becoming a cam girl etc. and probably a lot safer in a way if they are really stealthy.
Not a lot of places near the Manor to engage in that (it's a small town after all), and everyone would end up knowing who it was that did it (and consequently, that it was incest). Plus, it's a drive every time they wanted to do it there. Much more convenient to stay in the Manor and engage in it online where they can remain anonymous. I don't even know in the game world how far the nearest "big town" is, but probably not close.

In other games, with other larger towns, it would work yes. I don't see it as readily available in this game world though. Plus with the space they have (multiple nice rooms, a large pool, etc) it just suits itself better there. No one online is going to know them or their residence, and they can freely engage in it. Just makes sense to me.
 

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Ok sorry maybe I should have read up on the situations you mention and their popularity in this kind of game, I can't really say I'm an expert in “porn-gaming”.
But let's face it, these situations are known to be erotic :).
Just tossing you a bit of unsolicited advice from an expert in "porn-gaming" ;) Anytime you have an LI with controversial kinks(camwhore/stripper/prostitute/slutty/cheating/etc), it's best to make those kinks, or the LI entirely, avoidable. You don't have to compromise your vision for a character to appease some players, if you instead just let those players avoid that character entirely.

Since this is a sandbox game, it should be pretty easy to allow players to avoid an LI's route entirely. Either allow players to progress the main storyline without having progressed that LI's story, or make a simple rejection choice+variable at the start of her story that can be checked alongside her story progression. Example: "if (angelastorych1complete == true or angelarejected ==true)"

Players are always going to complain about specific kinks, but they'll complain a LOT less if those kinks are avoidable. You also kinda shot yourself in the foot by choosing a family member in an incest game as the controversial kink LI. If the camwhore were non-related to MC, there'd still be a tiny bit of grumbling about the LI being unavoidable, but most players wouldn't really care so much. If it were an unrelated LI, and also avoidable, there'd possibly be no complaints at all.
 

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Just tossing you a bit of unsolicited advice from an expert in "porn-gaming" ;) Anytime you have an LI with controversial kinks(camwhore/stripper/prostitute/slutty/cheating/etc), it's best to make those kinks, or the LI entirely, avoidable. You don't have to compromise your vision for a character to appease some players, if you instead just let those players avoid that character entirely.

Since this is a sandbox game, it should be pretty easy to allow players to avoid an LI's route entirely. Either allow players to progress the main storyline without having progressed that LI's story, or make a simple rejection choice+variable at the start of her story that can be checked alongside her story progression. Example: "if (angelastorych1complete == true or angelarejected ==true)"

Players are always going to complain about specific kinks, but they'll complain a LOT less if those kinks are avoidable. You also kinda shot yourself in the foot by choosing a family member in an incest game as the controversial kink LI. If the camwhore were non-related to MC, there'd still be a tiny bit of grumbling about the LI being unavoidable, but most players wouldn't really care so much. If it were an unrelated LI, and also avoidable, there'd possibly be no complaints at all.
Thanks for the clarification, if I'm ever crazy enough to make another game, I'll keep that in mind :).
 
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Well, that's unfortunate..
But I guess the sequel was bound to come out here sooner or later, one way or another...
I still feel a little bad for those who paid for access on Patreon or Itch, but it's a bias I have to accept. I don't blame you.
What's done is done, but what's a pain is uploading it to several platforms and reporting it so that it appears in the “latest updates”.
 
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Well, that's unfortunate..
But I guess the sequel was bound to come out here sooner or later, one way or another...
I still feel a little bad for those who paid for access on Patreon or Itch, but it's a bias I have to accept. I don't blame you.
What's done is done, but what's a pain is uploading it to several platforms and reporting it so that it appears in the “latest updates”.
Good day! I'm stuck at this point in your game, all the girls have been completed in the new version, I don't understand what to do next. Every morning I talk to Amanda in the Cafe, I say that there is no news and so on in a circle. Help
 
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Good day! I'm stuck at this point in your game, all the girls have been completed in the new version, I don't understand what to do next. Every morning I talk to Amanda in the Cafe, I say that there is no news and so on in a circle. Help
Im at the same spot
 

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Ok sorry maybe I should have read up on the situations you mention and their popularity in this kind of game, I can't really say I'm an expert in “porn-gaming”.
But let's face it, these situations are known to be erotic :).
I've been waiting for the game!

Do you have a compiled version. The file this time is huge!
 
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