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VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

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justin.case

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True, but people can choose to do something for multiple reasons. For example, let's hypothetically say she was assigned to a mission in a foreign country for 3 years and she comes to love the people, culture, and location. Yes, the original reason she was there was the mission, but after 3 years perhaps she wants to stay for other reasons.

That's essentially how I see her assignment with MC. On her love path, she initially is there because he's a friend and because of her mission, but later on perhaps the relationship and her affection for MC is actually the biggest reason she'd want to stay, even if it's still her mission too.
Make sense. Let's go with the analogy, that assignment should be under false pretenses because that country should not know why she is there, like MC does not know why she is there. That would make her a spy. So, even if she started to like the country when her cover blows up, she would end up in a prison for espionage or at least would be declared persona-non-grata and get the boot. Especially if that cover blows up in a shitshow that endangers the country and its people like it happened in the game, she might get shot without explaining her reasons.
 

Rehwyn

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It is assumed, but that is a plot turn, and till next few chapters there is no evidence they did.
Fair point. I'm also off the opinion it was orchestrated by a third-party, but it still might force the issue with Kaija.
 

justin.case

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Btw, at the beginning of the game it says there will never be incest and harem, as logic dictates one of them, incest or harem, is indeed possible. So, can we say we will soon have Jessica path? :unsure:
 

Rehwyn

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Make sense. Let's go with the analogy, that assignment should be under false pretenses because that country should not know why she is there, like MC does not know why she is there. That would make her a spy. So, even if she started to like the country when her cover blows up, she would end up in a prison for espionage or at least would be declared persona-non-grata and get the boot. Especially if that cover blows up in a shitshow that endangers the country and its people like it happened in the game, she might get shot without explaining her reasons.
I didn't mean a hostile county. Ultimately Kaija's mission is trying to protect MC, not hurt him. I'm sure operatives work in allied countries without local civilians knowing about them, even if the allied government does know. If things blow up while they're following their orders, I'd frankly be more likely to blame the people making the orders. So honestly, I blame the Templars and MC's parents for the shitshow more than I blame Kaija.
 
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xapican

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Fair point. I'm also off the opinion it was orchestrated by a third-party, but it still might force the issue with Kaija.
It is possible that Kaija, is even the Killer of Fin, how I said before one of my theories as why Kaija is so engaged with the Templars is because of personal Vendetta, (Linae states, that she never saw a reclruit train with that passion like Kaija trains hinting about emotional implications behind her motivation)
 

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Btw, at the beginning of the game it says there will never be incest and harem, as logic dictates one of them, incest or harem, is indeed possible. So, can we say we will soon have Jessica path? :unsure:
Nope, i guess not, nor you can have Multiple girls at once, that would go against all principles from the Templars, don't forget he was raised by Great grandmaster and one of their high ranked warriors,
 

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It is known by MC from the beginning that her line of work is with a secret org.
classified gig with a known organization assumes different things.
But in actuality she is an operative to an organization that is not beholden to any laws, and she is a skilled killer who executes without any trial, just by being a nuisance to templars you may see the open end of a barrel.
 
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Btw, at the beginning of the game it says there will never be incest and harem, as logic dictates one of them, incest or harem, is indeed possible. So, can we say we will soon have Jessica path? :unsure:
No, it means there will be neither. It's just a little grammatical faux pa.
 
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justin.case

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I didn't mean a hostile county. Ultimately Kaija's mission is trying to help MC, not hurt them. I'm sure operatives work in allied countries without local civilians knowing about them, even if the allied government does know. If things blow up while they're following their orders, I'd frankly be more likely to blame the people making the orders. So honestly, I blame the Templars and MC's parents for the shitshow more than I blame Kaija.
For the analogy work, the country should not know why is their spy there because MC does not know. Also, MC is more like a neutral country, even if they are under same sphere of influence. There is no way, neither a neutral nor ally country would accept an operator works in their country without their knowledge. If they get discovered, they will be arrested. Whatever happens next is entirely politics and power play, that operator can be bargaining chip, if they are from much stronger country would be silently extradite etc. but there is no way, they got scot free such a situation. On top of that, add the explosions, guns, dead bodies etc. She is fucked regardless of she is in hostile country or an ally.
 

justin.case

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It is possible that Kaija, is even the Killer of Fin, how I said before one of my theories as why Kaija is so engaged with the Templars is because of personal Vendetta, (Linae states, that she never saw a reclruit train with that passion like Kaija trains hinting about emotional implications behind her motivation)
Grandpa issues I assume.

Nope, i guess not, nor you can have Multiple girls at once, that would go against all principles from the Templars, don't forget he was raised by Great grandmaster and one of their high ranked warriors,
As his father says, anything goes. Cheat, bite, kick as long as you win, nothing matters.

No, it means there will be neither. It's just a little grammatical faux pa.
A shame really. You'd say no harem either if it's just a faux pa.
 

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I basically dumped the Templars, I burned the bridges with MC's parents, took every opportunity presented to piss off and disrespect the others - and the organization in general - I dumped Kaija (who I saw as part of the same big lie that made me dump my parents) - I stayed on good terms with Linnae - mainly because she opposed the Kaija thing from the start and because you can disrespect the Templars and stay on her good side, also on good terms with Kari (who seems to work with the Templars but not really be one - and is a f'in Valkerie) and very good terms with Medb. Basically, I am anti-templar at this point. I wasn't impressed with them in any way - not their HQ, not their organization, not their plans or their people. I won't have anything to do with the organization (unless I'm working for Medb at the time) but I'll still talk with Linnae and Kari (as long as it's outside of HQ) and Rebecca of course. The others ... I'm really not sure what the point would be of dragging the office ladies or the bartender into all of this.
 

Rehwyn

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For the analogy work, the country should not know why is their spy there because MC does not know. Also, MC is more like a neutral country, even if they are under same sphere of influence. There is no way, neither a neutral nor ally country would accept an operator works in their country without their knowledge. If they get discovered, they will be arrested. Whatever happens next is entirely politics and power play, that operator can be bargaining chip, if they are from much stronger country would be silently extradite etc. but there is no way, they got scot free such a situation. On top of that, add the explosions, guns, dead bodies etc. She is fucked regardless of she is in hostile country or an ally.
After I made the analogy, I also realized a better analogy would be for her to have an internal domestic security assignment. If the Templars and MC's parents are her "government", than MC is a high risk domestic civilian essentially.

The civilian might not know about the mission, but the government would. And since it's domestic, there's less political implications. The civilian could definitely be pissed though when he learns something like international terrorists were after him without the government telling him.

After the shitshow, she could definitely be made a scapegoat. But personally, I'd blame the dumbass that simultaneously gave her the mission to protect MC but also go to literally other realms at the same time.
 
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Dessolos

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All I know Kaija is the best girl for me she is in my top 10 LI across all AVN's haha. If I didn't find it easy to forgive her or her so likeable should wouldn't come close to Fiona or Medb. Kaija gets all the love and headpats from me so I cant wait for the next update.
 

HornyyPussy

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All I know Kaija is the best girl for me she is in my top 10 LI across all AVN's haha. If I didn't find it easy to forgive her or her so likeable should wouldn't come close to Fiona or Medb. Kaija gets all the love and headpats from me so I cant wait for the next update.
Well, Medb is a close second for me so it's gonna get interesting :)
 
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