VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

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nitkonikic

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adanu said:
I will never, ever like being kept in the dark 'for my protection'.

I never asked for it. If I want to risk my life in some fashion once I'm an adult, that is MY DECISION. NOT. YOURS.
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Want to talk MC having input in his life?

1. His girlfriend was arranged marriage type (except he doesn't know it)
2. His job is Templar arranged
3. He wasn't told about Templars

Now, while I personally see no problem with #3, I understand not liking it.

But I very strongly disagree with some calling MC self-entitled when his whole life is basically set by his parents and EVERYTHING is one big lie because they want total control.
Every aspect of his life: girlfriend, job, parents, none of it was true.

He is a fucking saint compared to amount of vitriol I'd be spewing if it was my life.

It's also why I keep parroting MC, once shit is done, should pack up and leave. Far, far, far away from everything, and start a new life, one where he gets to make his own, good or bad, decisions.
 
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adanu

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nitkonikic said:
Want to talk MC having input in his life?

1. His girlfriend was arranged marriage type (except he doesn't know it)
2. His job is Templar arranged
3. He wasn't told about Templars

Now, while I personally see no problem with #3, I understand not liking it.

But I very strongly disagree with some calling MC self-entitled when his whole life is basically set by his parents and EVERYTHING is one big lie because they want total control.
Every aspect of his life: girlfriend, job, parents, none of it was true.

He is a fucking saint compared to amount of vitriol I'd be spewing if it was my life.

It's also why I keep parroting MC, once shit is done, should pack up and leave. Far, far, far away from everything, and start a new life, one where he gets to make his own, good or bad, decisions.
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Honestly, when I realized the full scope of their control over his life after he left the home, it quickly became clear it was never about them, it was about self-indulgant fantasies on their part that I wanted nothing to do with.
 
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adanu

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xapican said:
And ? he just has another take, and it is ok that it doesn't fly with you it is your point of view, you would be shocked, knowing that ablut 89 % of the parents lie to their children, for the sake of their protecction, and the Mothers are the worst.
What GOA described is not a single and rare case it is more a common topic.
depends on each one how he copes with it, In GOA s case it even brought something good for him and his daughter, although painfull and really heartbreaking.
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Sure. That doesn't mean they're right to do so. I will die on that hill.
 
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xapican

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adanu said:
Sure. That doesn't mean they're right to do so. I will die on that hill.
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Again, I didn't attack you and I can't care Less about your point of view and I don't care what you Think on that topic !
WAS THIS CLEAR ?! I'M JUST EXPOSING MY POINT OF VIEW HOW YOU DID IT !
But you know what ? I Delete all my coments better.
 
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Krytax123

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xapican said:
Again, I didn't attack you and I can't care Less about your point of view and I don't care what you Think on that topic !
WAS THIS CLEAR ?! I'M JUST EXPOSING MY POINT OF VIEW HOW YOU DID IT !
But you know what ? I Delete all my coments better.
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:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

I feel you, its not even about his opinion but his messages are just obnoxiously annyoing lmao

Yeah great, die on your hill, have fun (y)

How about a few more double posts stating the same thing again and again? :whistle:
 
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motseer

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xapican said:
Again, I didn't attack you and I can't care Less about your point of view and I don't care what you Think on that topic !
WAS THIS CLEAR ?! I'M JUST EXPOSING MY POINT OF VIEW HOW YOU DID IT !
But you know what ? I Delete all my coments better.
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Imma comin', xap! Jus' point me at 'em!
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I've said it before but I hope CEO wanted for people to really, deeply despise the Templars ... cause if that wasn't his goal, he went overboard. I mean, Adanu doesn't even mention Finn. I pretty much get where he was coming from before, but Finn was a bridge too far. (And before anyone says it, I know - we don't have proof, we're not 100% positive yet etc. etc. but I think the Templars did it ... or at least that Templars did it, I doubt it got a vote in council.)
 
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nitkonikic said:
Want to talk MC having input in his life?

1. His girlfriend was arranged marriage type (except he doesn't know it)
2. His job is Templar arranged
3. He wasn't told about Templars

Now, while I personally see no problem with #3, I understand not liking it.

But I very strongly disagree with some calling MC self-entitled when his whole life is basically set by his parents and EVERYTHING is one big lie because they want total control.
Every aspect of his life: girlfriend, job, parents, none of it was true.

He is a fucking saint compared to amount of vitriol I'd be spewing if it was my life.

It's also why I keep parroting MC, once shit is done, should pack up and leave. Far, far, far away from everything, and start a new life, one where he gets to make his own, good or bad, decisions.
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Agreed. To get side tracked - From what Fiona has said she experienced similar. She did pack up and leave. She moved far far away from her family and started a new life where she gets to make her own decisions. I am starting to see her in a far more interesting light as an LI for my MC.
 
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TrixRabbit

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Grumpy Old Aussie said:
Agreed. To get side tracked - From what Fiona has said she experienced similar. She did pack up and leave. She moved far far away from her family and started a new life where she gets to make her own decisions. I am starting to see her in a far more interesting light as an LI for my MC.
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I agree - at this point Fiona is the only Li I'm still interested in really - Finn was #1 but ... yeah.
 
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TrixRabbit said:
I've said it before but I hope CEO wanted for people to really, deeply despise the Templars ... cause if that wasn't his goal, he went overboard. I mean, Adanu doesn't even mention Finn. I pretty much get where he was coming from before, but Finn was a bridge too far. (And before anyone says it, I know - we don't have proof, we're not 100% positive yet etc. etc. but I think the Templars did it ... or at least that Templars did it, I doubt it got a vote in council.)
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I liked Finn towards the end, but I don't see the attraction that many other seem to have. All she wanted to do was stab my MC. She was a bit too volatile for me.
My MC would forget to take out the garbage - stab!
Sorry dear, I forgot our anniversary - stab!
Yes dear you do look fat in that dress - stab!
Oh did I forget to put down the toilet seat - stab!
I'd always be worried we would have a fight and she would stab me to death in my sleep. Trust is big for me and I don't think I could trust her not to stab me.
 
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Grumpy Old Aussie said:
I liked Finn towards the end, but I don't see the attraction that many other seem to have. All she wanted to do was stab my MC. She was a bit too volatile for me.
My MC would forget to take out the garbage - stab!
Sorry dear, I forgot our anniversary - stab!
Yes dear you do look fat in that dress - stab!
Oh did I forget to put down the toilet seat - stab!
I'd always be worried we would have a fight and she would stab me to death in my sleep. Trust is big for me and I don't think I could trust her not to stab me.
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Nah, she was ok. She had never met a human but had grown up on the humans-are-evil stories and she had been waiting for a chance to prove herself as a fighter. Once she had time to get to know MC, she calmed way down and turned out to be pretty awesome. She didn't try to kill him anymore. The only time she got mad was when she thought he was saying that Templar training was better (but that wasn't what he was saying).
 
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adanu

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TrixRabbit said:
I've said it before but I hope CEO wanted for people to really, deeply despise the Templars ... cause if that wasn't his goal, he went overboard. I mean, Adanu doesn't even mention Finn. I pretty much get where he was coming from before, but Finn was a bridge too far. (And before anyone says it, I know - we don't have proof, we're not 100% positive yet etc. etc. but I think the Templars did it ... or at least that Templars did it, I doubt it got a vote in council.)
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I think the Alfar did it, but it was a faction within their government that framed them. If that were the case, it doesn't matter either way, because his objective of trying to prevent a war can't be accomplished while they see him as leverage at that point.

I also can't ignore the possibility they'd see the smartphone message as an Alfar trick and that the father would try to get him back.

I think the former is more likely though, unless the Templars have devolved so much that they just don't respect the Grandmaster any longer. The next few chapters are either going to have the MC leaving Alfar territory cutting his way through them to get away, or for him to refuse to leave out of principle and investigate in Neverwhere with Medb and them becoming an iconis duo trying to prevent a disaster.
 
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