VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

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TrixRabbit

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We have too little information about the organization as a whole for that. Are you telling me that you believe that every single Templar in existance is corrupted and evil?
Every single one I've met for sure - or if they aren't they've become too accepting of the corruption and evil that have become the core of the organization. Even if they don't all die, they can't be a part of the new organization. At least not if I'm doing it - but all of the ones I've met definitely need to go. I wouldn't spare any of them. And I have no interest in being a mediator.
 
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As it is Thanksgiving here just wanted to thank ya Ceolag as well your game has been a constant source of enjoyment so am sending messages of regards to all Devs who made games like that possible, which included this fantastic title too. So yea once again gratitude for your effort!

Thanks for reading Dev, best wishes for ahead:)
 

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Every single one I've met for sure - or if they aren't they've become too accepting of the corruption and evil that have become the core of the organization. Even if they don't all die, they can't be a part of the new organization. At least not if I'm doing it - but all of the ones I've met definitely need to go. I wouldn't spare any of them. And I have no interest in being a mediator.
You and I have very, very different definitions of 'evil', and I have NO IDEA how you could see Kat as evil in any way. That doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.
 

Dessolos

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Honestly the only Templar besides the mother and father I do not trust is the bald guy on the council. i'm undecided on the rest I'm cautious of the rest.
 

TrixRabbit

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You and I have very, very different definitions of 'evil', and I have NO IDEA how you could see Kat as evil in any way. That doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.
Evil may be the wrong word. She lied to MC, with a straight face, probably all the way back to their childhood "friendship" (she must have already been in training by then). She lied about everything, every day and showed almost no remorse when he finally found out. She is a tool, a machine - incapable of honest thought or emotion.

At any rate, there is not one of them I'd spare if I had them in the same position Finn was in after the duel, and I'll do nothing to help any of them (if we're given a choice).
 

adanu

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Evil may be the wrong word. She lied to MC, with a straight face, probably all the way back to their childhood "friendship" (she must have already been in training by then). She lied about everything, every day and showed almost no remorse when he finally found out. She is a tool, a machine - incapable of honest thought or emotion.

At any rate, there is not one of them I'd spare if I had them in the same position Finn was in after the duel, and I'll do nothing to help any of them (if we're given a choice).
I will give you calculated and full of conviction. She's a protector, but they got to her early and convinced her this is the only way. The MC confronting her may make her start to see how entrenched their thinking is.

It'd take a lot more than that for me to want to kill her for trying to protect humans from the very real threats out there.
 

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I will give you calculated and full of conviction. She's a protector, but they got to her early and convinced her this is the only way. The MC confronting her may make her start to see how entrenched their thinking is.

It'd take a lot more than that for me to want to kill her for trying to protect humans from the very real threats out there.
I’m not completely blind to the systemic child abuse that created her but I think she’s irredeemable now and I don’t expect to be Albert to destroy the Templars and kill most of them without having to deal with Kajia.
 

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I’m not completely blind to the systemic child abuse that created her but I think she’s irredeemable now and I don’t expect to be Albert to destroy the Templars and kill most of them without having to deal with Kajia.
I think Killing most of them is still too extreme I get you hate them with a passion. Only one id kill is the bald guy and id consider the rest of the leadership so they don't start an uprising over the new leadership. But id probably let the rest live as they haven't proven to me as far as I can recall needing to be dealt with like the bald guy.
 

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I’m not completely blind to the systemic child abuse that created her but I think she’s irredeemable now and I don’t expect to be Albert to destroy the Templars and kill most of them without having to deal with Kajia.
'I like protecting people and have never been shown another way until the MC confronted me, therefore I cannot be changed!'

What the fuck kind of logic is that?
 
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'I like protecting people and have never been shown another way until the MC confronted me, therefore I cannot be changed!'

What the fuck kind of logic is that?
Well, she'd better change pretty f'in quick then because I'm ready to blow up the Templars now. If I go back and she greets me and swears that she is done with the Templars forever, and ready to help me take them down, I'll be suspicious but I'll listen but that's about what it will take. Our entire relationship until now has been one massive betrayal on her part so if she wants to change course, it's on her to do it. I owe her nothing.
 
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I think Killing most of them is still too extreme I get you hate them with a passion. Only one id kill is the bald guy and id consider the rest of the leadership so they don't start an uprising over the new leadership. But id probably let the rest live as they haven't proven to me as far as I can recall needing to be dealt with like the bald guy.
It will depend on many things like, first and foremost, what Ceo lets us do. It will also depend on any further conversations I have with Medb and the elves. But if nothing else, I'm ready to start taking heads until I find out who killed Finn - and maybe then, maybe, if I'm not working for Medb to undermine and sabotage the Templars - maybe I'd leave them completely alone and simply refuse to speak to any of them again.
 

adanu

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Well, she'd better change pretty f'in quick then because I'm ready to blow up the Templars now. If I go back and she greets me and swears that she is done with the Templars forever, and ready to help me take them down, I'll be suspicious but I'll listen but that's about what it will take. Our entire relationship until now has been one massive betrayal on her part so if she wants to change course, it's on her to do it. I owe her nothing.
We haven't been shown nearly enough to want to bomb the Templars as a whole. Where is this coming from?
 

Dessolos

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We haven't been shown nearly enough to want to bomb the Templars as a whole. Where is this coming from?
my exact thoughts. I only know I dislike them but not enough info to do something extreme like that. Even the 1 I would kill I dont have proof he has done anything wrong yet just gives off the asshole vibe that he probably has done some shit.
 

TrixRabbit

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We haven't been shown nearly enough to want to bomb the Templars as a whole. Where is this coming from?
By the time we left to see the Elves I already hated and despised the Templars and wanted nothing further to do with them, then they killed Finn. You all can say what you like about evidence, but I personally believe Medb and the elves and so in this case, the Templars are guilty until proven innocent - with me at least. MCs entire life, to this point, has been one giant lie - I'm pretty sure that his parents and the Templars are lying to him still and then I break from them and form one relationship that is out of their control, and they kill her. It's John Wick time. I don't know how MC could feel any other way right now but the only person who could really intervene at this point would be Medb and only if she has a better plan for destroying them.
 

adanu

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By the time we left to see the Elves I already hated and despised the Templars and wanted nothing further to do with them, then they killed Finn. You all can say what you like about evidence, but I personally believe Medb and the elves and so in this case, the Templars are guilty until proven innocent - with me at least. MCs entire life, to this point, has been one giant lie - I'm pretty sure that his parents and the Templars are lying to him still and then I break from them and form one relationship that is out of their control, and they kill her. It's John Wick time. I don't know how MC could feel any other way right now but the only person who could really intervene at this point would be Medb and only if she has a better plan for destroying them.
Ah, you're just taking the Alfar word for it that they killed Finn, that's the issue right there. They have NO reason to not lie to you about that. Your bias is showing.
 

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Did any of the Alfar; hint at it ? I don't remember right now, time to give the game another playtrough
 
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