VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

[nitkonikic]

I did the Finnabar path, where she became my favorite Li in the game so far. The first relationship that my parents/the Templars didn't have control over - and the Templars killed her. That's why. After everything else, I walked away found someone that they didn't choose/control and they killed her.

And until proven otherwise, I am still sticking with "she was killed by 3rd party". So not blaming Templars for it. Yet.
Also posted few times before that I don't want it to be Templars. Enough reasons to hate them as is. No need to give all bad events to them.

 

[Tremonia]

the Templars killed her.

Did they really? Do we know what happened or is it just what we heard from Medb? Do we know for sure Medb has the correct informations?

 

[TrixRabbit]

Did they really? Do we know what happened or is it just what we heard from Medb? Do we know for sure Medb has the correct informations?

They really did. Wait and see.

 

[TrixRabbit]

And until proven otherwise, I am still sticking with "she was killed by 3rd party". So not blaming Templars for it. Yet.
Also posted few times before that I don't want it to be Templars. Enough reasons to hate them as is. No need to give all bad events to them.

See above. They did it, or at least were involved. And involved is all I need at this point. Before I was enraged but content to just walk away and have nothing further to do with them. Now, they're going to see me again and it's not going to be a happy reunion.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Did they really? Do we know what happened or is it just what we heard from Medb? Do we know for sure Medb has the correct informations?

I'm saying not a chance in Hell it was the Templars. Way to convenient. I'd bet my right nut that it's the same 3rd party people that went after the MC.

 

[Dessolos]

They really did. Wait and see.

exactly what im doing as much as I do like Medb so far. I'm not gonna take her for her word that it was the Templars that did it without talking to someone else. ( preferable Kaija Love Path or Linnae) As I want to hear from both sides and make a judgement call for myself until there is proof showing me otherwise.

After all Fin is her daughter she could be just taking it out on the Templars and jumping to conclusions too quickly because of her grief or she was fed wrong info. Or like other said could be a 3rd party. There is just to many reasons why Medb could be wrong , to take her for her word as much as I do trust her.

 

[Elduriel]

exactly what im doing as much as I do like Medb so far. I'm not gonna take her for her word that it was the Templars that did it without talking to someone else. ( preferable Kaija Love Path or Linnae) As I want to hear from both sides and make a judgement call for myself until there is proof showing me otherwise.

After all Fin is her daughter she could be just taking it out on the Templars and jumping to conclusions too quickly because of her grief or she was fed wrong info. Or like other said could be a 3rd party. There is just to many reasons why Medb could be wrong , to take her for her word as much as I do trust her.

yeah the whole situation is fishy at best, any number of things could have happened, and Medb is jumping to conclusions, we shouldn't do the same. She is emotionally compromised right now, so I'll take whatever she says with a grain of salt. Biggest surprise for me would be that we go back, confront the templars about it and they flat out admit they did it

 

[Dr.TSoni]

After all Fin is her daughter she could be just taking it out on the Templars and jumping to conclusions too quickly because of her grief or she was fed wrong info.

yeah the whole situation is fishy at best, any number of things could have happened, and Medb is jumping to conclusions, we shouldn't do the same. She is emotionally compromised right now, so I'll take whatever she says with a grain of salt

Let's remember that she blames the Templars for her brother's death after eons, even though her brother was there by his own free choice.

 

[xapican]

Let's remember that she blames the Templars for her brother's death after eons, even though her brother was there by his own free choice.

sorry to be a "smartass" right now, Medb blames the Humans to have killed her brother, and the Templars for not have saved him, she is more resentfull with the "Knight Templar Order"

 

[HornyyPussy]

yeah the whole situation is fishy at best, any number of things could have happened, and Medb is jumping to conclusions, we shouldn't do the same. She is emotionally compromised right now, so I'll take whatever she says with a grain of salt. Biggest surprise for me would be that we go back, confront the templars about it and they flat out admit they did it

I guess they may have made it look like the Templars did it so that's why Medb think so ?

 

[nitkonikic]

MCs father is conveniently alone somewhere Alfar can take him hostage.
MC was attempted to be taken hostage by someone not linked to Templars or Alfar.
Finn is coincidentally killed by Templars just as things were calming down.

What a nice set of coincidences...

I mean, if that's not enough to point out someone is trying to start war, or just conflict, to further their goals (my money's still on Linnae and Mab + Fiona's family as 3rd party), then I don't know what is...

 

[Dr.TSoni]

sorry to be a "smartass" right now, Medb blames the Humans to have killed her brother, and the Templars for not have saved him, she is more resentfull with the "Knight Templar Order"

XD

I guess they may have made it look like the Templars did it so that's why Medb think so ?

It wouldn't be the first time they have wrong information, with the excuse that elves don't "lie" they seem to assume to know the truth

 

[BruceWayne123]

I think it was the Templar traitors that killed Finn behind dear Daddy's back. It seems easier to branch the storyline this way. This way, whatever it was MC or someone else, the person responsible can be associated with the Templars and the "killed Finn" and low RP Medb path can be pretty much the same with just small differences in dialogue. It can also be the third party but in my opinion it will lead to more branching and that is why I am not sold on this theory just yet.

 

[zaqrwe]

What changed in the latest update? There is no changelog on the front page, and from the unchanged version number it sound like just a bugfixes.

 

[nitkonikic]

I think it was the Templar traitors that killed Finn behind dear Daddy's back. It seems easier to branch the storyline this way. This way, whatever it was MC or someone else, the person responsible can be associated with the Templars and the "killed Finn" and low RP Medb path can be pretty much the same with just small differences in dialogue. It can also be the third party but in my opinion it will lead to more branching and that is why I am not sold on this theory just yet.

See, I disagree on that. Branching topic that is.

If it was 3rd party, there is initial confrontation with Templars/Parents, which then goes to be resolved by both Templars and Alfar uniting to fight them.
No matter initial discussion with Templars, path always ends with fighting 3rd party.

If it's Templars, now you've got to create multiple paths:
- 1 if MC is friendly to Templars
- 1 if MC hates Templars
- 1 if MC hates both Templars and Alfar, so he has no one to stand with during war

Also 3rd party allows dev to avoid war entirely (which would probably be pain to render).
Full on war means multiple renders from both points of view.
3rd party means linear path towards ending.

 

[xapican]

What changed in the latest update? There is no changelog on the front page, and from the unchanged version number it sound like just a bugfixes.

Yes, only Bugfixes, SonsOfLIberty has a post with the Changelog somewhere far before the Templar and Kaija discussion Started.

 

[adanu]

They really did. Wait and see.

I don't believe her, so no, I won't wait and see. It's an OBVIOUS Alfar trick you're taking the bait for.

 

[Tremonia]

They really did.

Oh, did they? I searched my cute ass off, but I can't find any proof. Which scene do I've to look?

 

[HornyyPussy]

Yes, only Bugfixes, SonsOfLIberty has a post with the Changelog somewhere far before the Templar and Kaija discussion Started.

So about 160-170 pages back?

 

[Ceolag]

Hey everyone,

This week I focused on getting the remaining animations for the current scene done.
Especially one of them gave me quite a bit of a headache due to the dforce stuff. Hair simulations through several hundred frames aren't fun. :-D
I did manage to get most of the stuff done as I had imagined it so that's probably still a win...
The second PC is still busy rendering the animations but it's a great help that I can continue to pose new renders on the other PC now.

Next week's focus will be on static renders and a bit of coding/writing.
After that, I'll tackle the second batch of animations.
Outside of that, my main focus will be to stay (mostly) healthy as it seems everyone around me is trying to kill me through coughing and sneezing...

The numbers for this week:
52 new static renders for a total of 929
6 new animations for a total of 13
211 new lines in the script file for a total of 2827

Have a nice weekend.
Cheers,
Ceo