Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.7b] [Ron Chon]

[wiseold6996]

I get it, again let's say a storyline line where Jean and Scott split up shortly before you arrive, due to Scott cheating on Jean with Emma Frost( a storyline from the comics).

You try to get with Jean, who has issues after her long time boyfriend cheated on her, and Scott hates you because he wants Jean back and sees you as an obstacle. You have drama, you have conflict, hell you could even end on a redemption arc for Scott where he eventually asks forgiveness from her and gives his blessing to your relationship.

Cliche? Absolutely, but at least it is something. What do we get instead? Some weird incest play? Yeah like there aren't enough incest games on this site.

And for clarification I am proudly part of perhaps one of the most annoying groups on this site, barring NTR addicts. I am a lifelong IIA( is it avoidable?).

I mean we are going to cuck him with emma too. So after that will he be a lifelong enemy or be a proud member of the ntr community and give us his blessings again

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

I mean we are going to cuck him with emma too.

Emma and Scott won't bang.

We have plans for Scott to not die alone and unloved. We have plans for all of the male characters to not die alone and unloved.

Remember that Cable still needs to be born.

 

[drifter139]

will we possibly see Null join the team further into the game?

 

[wiseold6996]

will we possibly see Null join the team further into the game?

Or will we create our own team?

 

[drifter139]

Or will we create our own team?

like an alpha team and beta team thing?

 

[jvbatman]

Remember that Cable still needs to be born.

Does he though? His whole backstory is the most convoluted 90s shit ever. And then Scott ending up with Madelyne Pryor in this continuity will be even weirder because it'd be like the girl rejecting him so he fucks her clone instead?

 

[thundersamaz]

Does he though? His whole backstory is the most convoluted 90s shit ever. And then Scott ending up with Madelyne Pryor in this continuity will be even weirder because it'd be like the girl rejecting him so he fucks her clone instead?

Can't bang your crush? Bang her mother. Same energy

 

[Johnson2588]

Others have accurately touched on the rest of your comment but to address this one specifically...

I did suggest it early on but love rivals was shot down fast.

Not just for NTR. The writing team just HATES love triangles as a story concept, specifically in Marvel.

I mean we have plans on taking mishandled stuff and attempting to make it work, but Marvel's love triangles is not one of them.

PS. Colossus will become a bro in chapter 2. As Storm mentions, most X-Men are busy investigating things and going on missions. Jean even complains about her being left out.


We've downgraded to calling the current build an Alpha since we're refocusing on core systems.


It did but after we turned Kurt into an actual NPC and mentioned we have plans to expand on him people changed their opinion real fast and he now has his own fan club.




This. There will be specific scenes and unique angles.

An idea discussed on the discord, not heavily discussed by dev talks but in general chat, has been unique intros if the budget permits.

So the intro would change to seeing Storm open the door to Xavier's study, Rogue leaning against a table in the class room, Jean looking all cool like in the process of approaching you.


Really? That's disappointing. I wanted to play to get my Orc/Goblin fix but seeing the abandoned tag turned me off because I didn't want to get attached.


Really the only thing we force onto the player with Null is that he's generally good-intentioned toward his teammates.

How he goes about expressing that is entirely left up to the player through a personality system that is only going to get more dynamic.

I mean you can outright have Null desire death against mutant haters or internalize the hate and sympathize with them. If people don't find that dynamic enough I don't know what they will.

The new quirk rework the devs are working on has been promising to glance at with the girls' personalities being more varied.

Granted it'll still be a binary but for example, you can have Laura just be a stalker, dom you without stalking, both stalking and choking you out, or none of that and be treated like an equal partner.

Most girls are having their quirks split in two, possibly three. Though the status of the quirk being activated will be binary in whether it is or isn't.

Jean will always want to be your Big Sis.

Laura will always want to be protective.

Rogue will always want you to hold her and fuck the worry out of her.

If you activate their quirks that is.

That's excellent plans.
I just find out some gifts don't actually work if we give them again - they just dissapear and not influence on any points of trust or love - how you fix that? maybe some blocks, or temporary restrictions to the gifts? maybe mention in dialogs?

 

[sleepingkirby]

Can't bang your crush? Bang her mother. Same energy

* whistles the tune for "Stacy's mom" *

 

[Buttholder]

I think the only true mass market Mary Sue I've seen is Honor Harrington. She started out fine, and the series was good, but eventually it went off the rails. I think Weber just loved the character too much and he ended up making her so perfect even her enemies thought she was amazing (and those that didn't were so one dimensionally evil that the fact that they didn't love her was a sign of how bad they were).

Don't read the Anita Blake series then, because they do all that stuff right from page one. Not only are they absolutely dire, prose-wise, but everything in the universe of the stories exists to make her look good. She's always right, everyone literally venerates her like a goddess and if she makes a mistake or accidentally kills a few people she wasn't supposed to, it's okay, everyone forgives her and the universe will literally warp itself to prove her right by way of compensation!

I had an ex who loved the series and wanted me to read them and holy shit, they are some of the worst books I've ever encountered.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

will we possibly see Null join the team further into the game?

Or will we create our own team?

He joins the team after the Chapter 1 finale and we haven't decided yet what he's gonna do when the A and B teams form and there's also the New Mutants. He probably won't join them though.

Scott ending up with Madelyne Pryor in this continuity will be even weirder because it'd be like the girl rejecting him so he fucks her clone instead?

Can't bang your crush? Bang her mother. Same energy

Jean was dead...

Also, what makes you think Jean and Scott aren't an item because of solely Jean's decision? We're leaving their relationship vague for now.

But yeah we need Cable for certain storylines to progress properly. Also I like Cable.

I just find out some gifts don't actually work if we give them again - they just dissapear and not influence on any points of trust or love - how you fix that? maybe some blocks, or temporary restrictions to the gifts? maybe mention in dialogs?

Both an oversight and a bug. We're looking into how to fix it. Either blocks, continuous point increase, we haven't decided which solution we want to pursue yet.

 

[armion82]

Don't read the Anita Blake series then, because they do all that stuff right from page one. Not only are they absolutely dire, prose-wise, but everything in the universe of the stories exists to make her look good. She's always right, everyone literally venerates her like a goddess and if she makes a mistake or accidentally kills a few people she wasn't supposed to, it's okay, everyone forgives her and the universe will literally warp itself to prove her right by way of compensation!

I had an ex who loved the series and wanted me to read them and holy shit, they are some of the worst books I've ever encountered.

Instead of Anita,read Kate Daniels or Mercy Thompson.

 

[SolSpell]

He joins the team after the Chapter 1 finale and we haven't decided yet what he's gonna do when the A and B teams form and there's also the New Mutants. He probably won't join them though.

God damnit the spoiler was an actual spoiler for once

 

[Maddeninggg]

God damnit the spoiler was an actual spoiler for once

Nah, Shiny's not talking about Null, he's talking about ForgetMeNot. People keep forgetting about him.

 

[Dazzier31]

like an alpha team and beta team thing?

The names you are looking for are combinations of Red, Gold and Blue.

Does he though? His whole backstory is the most convoluted 90s shit ever. And then Scott ending up with Madelyne Pryor in this continuity will be even weirder because it'd be like the girl rejecting him so he fucks her clone instead?

Do we need Cable? If we want certain stories with the New Mutants, including fan favorite characters like Magik or Domino and personal favorites like Dani Moonstar and Magma, then yeah, we need Cable. And at least in the comics, while Maddie might be Jean's clone, it's borderline a twin situation because they have entirely different lives and sets of memories so now we get into the debate of wether a clone is an actual human being too and then we have to get Spider-man involved and

 

[buttfan]

Don't read the Anita Blake series then, because they do all that stuff right from page one. Not only are they absolutely dire, prose-wise, but everything in the universe of the stories exists to make her look good. She's always right, everyone literally venerates her like a goddess and if she makes a mistake or accidentally kills a few people she wasn't supposed to, it's okay, everyone forgives her and the universe will literally warp itself to prove her right by way of compensation!

Never been interested... and it sounds like that was a good thing.

I guess Twilight's main character was a huge Mary Sue as well, but again, never had any interest in reading it.

 

[Deleted member 4121628]

how do i get laura and jean friends?

 

[Clobbertime]

everything in the universe of the stories exists to make her look good. She's always right, everyone literally venerates her like a goddess and if she makes a mistake or accidentally kills a few people she wasn't supposed to, it's okay, everyone forgives her

Sounds like ya'll are talking about the current crop of MSheU movies and Disney live action remakes.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Sounds like ya'll are talking about the current crop of MSheU movies and Disney live action remakes.

Someone once said that Disney doesn't know how to make movies not catered to girls or general families and when you look at the MCU after they fired the guy who planned everything up to Endgame... it really shows.

Before someone responds. Keep in mind that Pixar has a separate creative team and Disney only distributes Ghibli films, they don't have a hand in the creative process.

 

[sleepingkirby]

Someone once said that Disney doesn't know how to make movies not catered to girls or general families and when you look at the MCU after they fired the guy who planned everything up to Endgame... it really shows.

That's what happens when people treat art like a business and not like, you know, art. It always drove me crazy when people (studios, "producers", etc.) put money into a creative project and expect a guarantee return. Like, if art can have a guaranteed result every time, it wouldn't be called art. It'd be call science.