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For the daughter route, just don't let the mom do nothing always refuse for her, they go after the daugter, same for the mom just let the mom do eerything without let her daughter get involved.
For the loyal route there are some scenes that still happens, but they are very soft scenes, just denied with the mom in the first choice if there's a second choice let the mom do, for example in the kitchen when they ask foor food, refuse with the mom, in the second choice you can still refuse or coock the food, if you refuse they go after the daughter if you don't you are in the loayl route, after that you have a lot of choices you can push him and they don't go after the daughter or the mom
Even in the dream scene, there's the mom dream, the daughter dream and loyal dream.
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Yeah, I found that little gem hidden in one of the 3 routes. It appears there may be a 4th route hidden within one of the other 3 routes. I have 4 saves, now. lol
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Hey dev a few questions I'm gonna ask before I play. Is their going to be rape or blackmail? Will there be a walkthrough? How do i know if I am on the defiant route, the deceitful route or the submissive route e.g will the decisions in game tell you what path they will put you on?
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Maybe because you actually don't know what NTR is? Let me help you:
To make NTR really mean NTR, as it is defined by the manga, where the term actually comes from, there are the following requirements:
There needs to be a relationship (a simple stabile relationsship, being engaged or married)
At least one of them needs to cheat on his/her partner
The cheater needs to be "taken away" from his/her partner.
The last requirement makes the difference between just cheating and NTR. "Taken away" means the relationship to break up and the cheater has to be permanently with his lover. It also doesn't matter whether the cheating is straight, gay or lesbian. Also not whether the protagonist does it or someone else in the game. It can also be a couple that has nothing to do with the MC at all.
So if someone, no matter if man or woman, cheats on his partner, but does not leave hin/her for the lover, i.e. is not „being taken away“, it is just cheating, not NTR. If a man/woman in a stabile relationship has sex with another person without the partner's consent, it's called cheating. But if his/her partner agrees, it is sharing, not cheating. And if there isn't even a steady partner, but someone has sex with different people, it´s nothing but sex. Got it now?
So now you can see why the game doesn't have an NTR tag. And you also know that an extremely large number of games are NTR tagged, even though they don't contain any. And still others are not tagged NTR even though they have it. NTR is almost always misunderstood and the word is almost always used incorrectly. Most of the time it is used in general just because a woman has sex with another man. But in most of all cases this is completely wrong.
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cool i will try it you mention a grey area does that mean we got blackmail? I'm thinking along the lines of one of the girls doesn't want to do what they are doing but are coerced with a threat but doesn't like it. I stress this because some games make the MC like the blackmail although this isn't always bad.
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It seems like a lot of people get NTR confused with Cuckold, actually. I see that one a lot.
Cool and if it ever does get referenced like MC saying why do I like this type thing I am glad you will make that take a while because I feel most games jump the gun on the MC liking it.
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How come? Not really. Cuckold (Male), cockquean (female) means something like, a woman/man watches his partner having sex with another, voluntarily taking on the role of a voyeur without being involved in the sex himself. In this case it is a form of sharing. It is different, the man/woman sits tied up next to it and is forced to look at it without agreeing to it. In that case it is cheating. If the partner is then forced to have sex, it is simply rape. It has nothing to do with NTR.
NTR, however, I just explained. That in turn is actually misunderstood almost in the entire forum. However, there is almost always intention behind it. The people who are supposedly NTR haters have no problem with actively taking away other men’s women in games. Although that is NTR. No, these people just like to talk their way out with NTR. In truth, they just hate that other men are sexually involved in games. That's why I always call these people “so-calles NTR hater” or “any other guys dick hater”. Because that's what they really are.
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I have finished the current version of the game. At least the route I got. And I have to say, I'm thrilled. First of all, I think it's very good that Jennifer is not a top model, but a completely normal woman that you can meet anywhere on the street. Most of the time, ingame characters either look like models or are incredibly fat and ugly. It's refreshing to see that people sometimes deviate from typical stereotypes. And yet they are sexy. She is very similar to my ex. Yes, it brings back fond memories.
I like the story very much, finally something different. Not what you've seen in other games a thousand times. The story is well told too, the characters well developed, on point. Not always gossiping, but not straight to the point either.
And finally a developer who dares to bring in other men. Finally! Personally, I don't care if it's vanilla sex, one night stands, cheating, sharing, NTR, etc. My personal tastes are very diverse. I want to experience good stories that lead to sex that also looks good. And if I have a certain say in what the characters do in the game, all the better. So, everything is fine. I hope the developer won't let “any other guys dick hater” talk into him and then mutilate his game. That happens far too often, there is almost an epidemic here in the forum.
So, I'm very excited to see how the game will continue.
I like the story very much, finally something different. Not what you've seen in other games a thousand times. The story is well told too, the characters well developed, on point. Not always gossiping, but not straight to the point either.
And finally a developer who dares to bring in other men. Finally! Personally, I don't care if it's vanilla sex, one night stands, cheating, sharing, NTR, etc. My personal tastes are very diverse. I want to experience good stories that lead to sex that also looks good. And if I have a certain say in what the characters do in the game, all the better. So, everything is fine. I hope the developer won't let “any other guys dick hater” talk into him and then mutilate his game. That happens far too often, there is almost an epidemic here in the forum.
So, I'm very excited to see how the game will continue.
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I understood your explanation. When saying "some people get them mixed up" that doesn't mean "you got them mixed up." It's obvious you understand what NTR is. I've seen other comments from people who obviously thought cuckold and NTR were the same thing, when they aren't.
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All is well.
I didn't even write that to justify myself. I have already recognized that here I am obviously among my own. I just wrote this so that others who will appear here sooner or later may see and understand it.
The reason for this is:
I'm officially new to the forum. In fact, I've been following the development of many erotik games for more than 6 years. i have known most of the most popular games from the very first day of development. And sooner or later there is the NTR discussion everywhere. As a rule, however, these are people who neither know nor want to know the meaning. As a rule, their aim is to rush against content with other men, to turn the games around to their wishes. And a lot of developers actually changed their plans. Für examples babysitter (T4bbo), bigbrother, and now a relatively new DMD. I was just really annoyed about it. „Thanks“ to the same idiots, many games don't turn out to be what they were originally intended to be. And in the end they are only mediocre, one of many. And they soon get bored of these broken games and they move on. How locusts. And you have to show such people straight away.
Enough with that now. I'm just happy to see games where developers do their thing. And I even toy with the idea that I will soon become a patreon myself. I'm waiting for 1 - 2 updates. Then let's see. What I've seen so far, I look very promising
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I am not sure why everyone is so hung up on an actual definition of NTR. NTR is no longer the exact definition you listed here and has become more of a feeling. If the reader/viewer gets that hole in the pit of their stomach or feel some anxiety at seeing a character, in the viewer's eyes/mind, be unfaithful or enjoy sex with another individual that they shouldn't be... that's NTR.
This is a common phenomena, especially in the English language. Original definitions or usages morph and change over time and NTR is no different. Look at words like awful, fine or commodity... All these words meant something totally different originally. Look at the work "sick" for example. That used to just mean sick as in health. Now it could be something totally different like "That NTR game is totally sick!" Arguing about the definition of NTR is as useful as arguing about the oxford comma. It goes no where.
The game tags are a guideline and are based on the opinion of the person posting them. So what if it is tagged as an NTR when it doesn't meet your definition? So what if it's NOT tagged as NTR when you think it should be. Why is this even an issue?
People need to relax and stop trying to force ideas on other people. There will always be people who disagree with you and will say you are wrong. This is okay! It's good to have a variety of opinions, but there is no need to shut someone down just because you don't agree with what they think.
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