VN Ren'Py Completed The Point of No Return [v1.0a] [DS23Games]

[ciaqoo]

Over 6000 renders and over 6MB of code / dialog in roughly 30 months. With the three unique paths and all their subpaths, he is essentially creating three games at this point. If one guy is doing all of this while working a full time job, I am highly impressed.

I have to admit this game is cool but have some deficiencies too. I'm playing v0.38 - there are 102.9k dialogue blocks but only 15.3k among them are unique, rest is repeated in many subpath. Dev dont using variables at all. I'm curious when renpy stop executing this kind of script for the sake of lack of resources or heap overflow bug cos every resource have some limits.
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When dev reach heap overflow limit so the script get the point of no return

 

[clowns234]

Most of the download is the pics, which remain the same once they are downloaded. There are ways to remove those existing pics for the update, allowing the player to copy them over from the previous update. In the end, it would still use up the same amount of HD space, but the download would be minimal.

 

[clowns234]

I have to admit this game is cool but have some deficiencies too. I'm playing v0.38 - there are 102.9k dialogue blocks but only 15.3k among them are unique, rest is repeated in many subpath. Dev dont using variables at all. I'm curious when renpy stop executing this kind of script for the sake of lack of resources or heap overflow bug cos every resource have some limits.
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When dev reach heap overflow limit so the script get the point of no return

The game branches out into three main paths rather quickly. Separating the game into three separate games is doable.

 

[Ricky Smith]

I like the concept of this game. Criminals acting like Vikings basically. I like the idea of NTR the husband, and the mother and daughter thing hot even though I wish daughter was more cheerleader looking. Not everyone is into goth girls with piercings ppl. Wish the women would express more guilt and shame and little more resistance, especially in the beginning, would make it more realistic. But its good if you like humiliation and submission path. Worthy game, check it out.

 

[ciaqoo]

The game branches out into three main paths rather quickly. Separating the game into three separate games is doable.

Yes it is. But the problem still exist even if this kind of split is done. The reason is in B branch ( deception ) - in v.038 this one path alone has more than 30+ own subbranches. Some of them will leading to A or C branches or their subbranches I guess. Split is doable when subbranches are consolidated and limited to their main branches territory. But it is against dev's plot philosophy i'm sure. This kind of scripting (without variables) have some advantages for dev (cos replicated content is quite independent in multiplied subranches so possible modifications are easy to do in given subbranch), but hard for players who want to find all unique content in this game. I just trying to write the mod which is able to tell when the unique content is located ( in which subbranches ). I wish the dev the best but i expecting some problems in the near future if dev going to keep this amount of subbranches until the end of game. Personally i like multiple endings games but only if unique content is easy to find. Here is hard to find unique content cos 85+ percent of dialogues are replicated. Only tool can tell us quick which choices leading us to unigue content and how many unique dialogues are in given subbranch.

 

[clowns234]

Yes it is. But the problem still exist even if this kind of split is done. The reason is in B branch ( deception ) - in v.038 this one path alone has more than 30+ own subbranches. Some of them will leading to A or C branches or their subbranches I guess. Split is doable when subbranches are consolidated and limited to their main branches territory. But it is against dev's plot philosophy i'm sure. This kind of scripting (without variables) have some advantages for dev (cos replicated content is quite independent in multiplied subranches so possible modifications are easy to do in given subbranch), but hard for players who want to find all unique content in this game. I just trying to write the mod which is able to tell when the unique content is located ( in which subbranches ). I wish the dev the best but i expecting some problems in the near future if dev going to keep this amount of subbranches until the end of game. Personally i like multiple endings games but only if unique content is easy to find. Here is hard to find unique content cos 85+ percent of dialogues are replicated. Only tool can tell us quick which choices leading us to unigue content and how many unique dialogues are in given subbranch.

A while back, I started looking through the pics and then, via console, jump to the scene that uses it. A fairly fast way to get through all the new content.

Also, from what I can tell, while there are a lot of sub-branches, none appear to share renders. Each render seems to be unique to one of the three main paths.

 

[Alleykatt]

The "resistance" path is the one where

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, right? Because I had no new scenes at all. I downloaded the compressed version - could that be why?

 

[ciaqoo]

I like the concept of this game. Criminals acting like Vikings basically. I like the idea of NTR the husband, and the mother and daughter thing hot even though I wish daughter was more cheerleader looking. Not everyone is into goth girls with piercings ppl. Wish the women would express more guilt and shame and little more resistance, especially in the beginning, would make it more realistic. But its good if you like humiliation and submission path. Worthy game, check it out.

C branch - resistance is well developed here but if you looking for pure resistance plot maybe you should try games like AWAM. But with less fuckable content for sure. I like dev's taste here so i dont care about realistic content in game. If it was real porn genre game so realistic content would be more important in such case. Realistic resistance path would lead here to even more humiliation and as a result more submissive path in the next updates or to fast and brutal early end of the game.
Long lasting paths are more worthy for players than short realistic bad endings I guess.
Great future is for games created by players imho - rendered in mixed mode. Interactions with characters picked in real-time by players but results (renders animations) collected after few seconds ( the time needed to read dialogues in scene ). So 30 fps or more for true real-time rendering is not needed. But its worth separate topic not here.

 

[ciaqoo]

A while back, I started looking through the pics and then, via console, jump to the scene that uses it. A fairly fast way to get through all the new content.

Also, from what I can tell, while there are a lot of sub-branches, none appear to share renders. Each render seems to be unique to one of the three main paths.

My tool analyzing labels and translate class nodes, so i dont care finding slight diferences in pics ( facial expressions etc ). I'm oriented for plot and text content behind it. If i finish my tool maybe i will write it as a mod to the games. I run it now as a part of variable viewer (developer.rpym). I'm not experienced python or renpy dev so i'm not sure if i finish it. I would like make it as universal/general renpy extension, not a mod for this one game only. But this game is one of my favs, so it inspired me to write this kind of tool. I also created other renpy extension for myself which allow me display some usefull info in the frame above the renpy main window. For me it is usefull cos i use my screen in portrait mode ( its easier to read scripts content in this mode at 4k screen ). For most viewers who watching screen in landscape mode this one extention is not very usefull with 16/9 screens if player want maximize game window.
@ Alleykatt - right . You have no new content in C branch if your last version was v0.39 You have to waite until v0.42 is released to get new content in this branch. Every 3 updates you have new content for all 3 main branches.

 

[JAmes3435]

Saw a comment a few pages back saying that the version posted here are censored to remove the mother-daughter scenes, is that true or no?

 

[Garatempus2]

I think so. More important question, where can you get the uncesored version? Itchio?

 

[DeemLeem12]

Does anyone know of the game similar to this with incest and female protagonist but you play the daughter? Your father's girlfriend is hitting on you and you can hit on your sister. The protagonist is also blonde and loves hitting gym like his father.

 

[Aleks Mark]

The "resistance" path is the one where

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, right? Because I had no new scenes at all. I downloaded the compressed version - could that be why?

Because this is actually version 0.40 , several events according to the version of the Deception route

 

[cxx]

Maybe he's got an artist's eye that can spot the difference between lossy and lossless.

golden eye, sight of a eagle, ...............

I think so. More important question, where can you get the uncesored version? Itchio?

doubt anywhere.

and yes 3 separate games on each path would work well since now unless it is told what path/s get update those who aren't on that/those path/s dl update and then see that no new play.

 

[eldred32]

if you use old saves you won't see anything new.

I started from the beggining and ended up in the exact same screen that i was ending up 2 versions ago

 

[dkatryl]

The "resistance" path is the one where

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, right? Because I had no new scenes at all. I downloaded the compressed version - could that be why?

There are sub-branches near the end that have been filled, depending on which way you got the info on Maya (dude from club vs mma win vs mm loss vs cult infiltration)

All currently dovetail back to getting the info, and it ends there.

Only one that ends early is if you pick paths that dont do any of the above.

 

[pango173]

gallery update pls

 

[ilikemusic1]

I've modified Gigan's original 0.15 Gallery Mod and added scenes up to 0.24.

Have also restored the original 1118a to 1148a scenes, and also added the 1425a and 1427a scenes without text. Will need someone to get the text from the Patreon Discord version.

Extract the files into the game folder.

09/11/22 edit: partially updated to 0.36

Any chance of an update mudkipz ?? Thanks

 

[imbatshit452]

I started from the beggining and ended up in the exact same screen that i was ending up 2 versions ago

reinstall windows or use sandbox

 

[cxx]

Any chance of an update

you expect update on mod which hasn't been updated past 1.5 years?