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Why start a new OP? Post the info you want changed, then report the post and ask the mods to update the OP with the new info.
- Jul 14, 2017
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Its not uncommon when a new dev makes a remake, which is totally different to the old one.
With a new name, its even a new game (old one abandoned by old dev).
Ya, I get it. New name, clean break and all.
But I'm thinking there's already enough confusion without changing things around. Again.
Of course I could be wrong. Opinions solicited.
But I'm thinking there's already enough confusion without changing things around. Again.
Of course I could be wrong. Opinions solicited.
Definitely get those sample renders in the OP changed. They look horrible.
I did. Resulted in a size savings of... less than 1%.
Game is already using compressed jpg and webm, the rest of it is all txt. Not much left to compress.
Anybody can do better, please let me know.
- Dec 17, 2017
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Have you tried compressing with webp? It typically gives better size than jpg at the same image quality.
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I DID look into it, but it's proprietary (owned by Google) and they make it very clear that they're reserving the right to charge for it, even though it's free for now.
What are the chances they change their TOS and start charging once they get it established? About... 100% in my opinion.
But thanks for the suggestion!
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It's not proprietary - it's open source, released under the BSD license. While Google could fork it and release a proprietary version, or charge for a future implementation, they can't retroactively charge people who are using current or past implementations, or keep people from using those, or other programs built with the open source code.
IANAL, but my job requires me to deal with open source lawyers on licensing issues. I am confident in this assessment.
You are 100% right.
After reading your message I had second thoughts about my 'I dont wanna pay google someday' stance and decided to take a second look at webp. Even found a gui to make life easier. Did a bit of reading before switching things around.
Tried it out. Works great. Shaved 40-60% off the best I can do with compressed jpg with very comparable end results. Without mucking up the reds, as jpg tends to do. And it integrates seamlessly with Renpy
I just logged in to let you know and say thanks and saw this msg
So
1. Thanks!
2. You were right.
3. I was... not right? hahaha I hate the W word.
Thanks to you I managed to shave almost 200mb off a 2.8gb game. I'm not being sarcastic, it really does help.
Too bad for me that 90% of my game size is video. But it will work wonders for anyone that has a game that's mostly stills.
I'm using webm with sound, have got the videos down to about 1.3 mb/s at 720. There's just a LOT of them.
Any helpful tips?
And thanks again for the original reply.
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You're welcome!You are 100% right.
After reading your message I had second thoughts about my 'I dont wanna pay google someday' stance and decided to take a second look at webp. Even found a gui to make life easier. Did a bit of reading before switching things around.
Tried it out. Works great. Shaved 40-60% off the best I can do with compressed jpg with very comparable end results. Without mucking up the reds, as jpg tends to do. And it integrates seamlessly with Renpy
I just logged in to let you know and say thanks and saw this msg
So
1. Thanks!
2. You were right.
3. I was... not right? hahaha I hate the W word.
Thanks to you I managed to shave almost 200mb off a 2.8gb game. I'm not being sarcastic, it really does help.
Too bad for me that 90% of my game size is video. But it will work wonders for anyone that has a game that's mostly stills.
I'm using webm with sound, have got the videos down to about 1.3 mb/s at 720. There's just a LOT of them.
Any helpful tips?
And thanks again for the original reply.
I don't know what a decent size per second for a video is. I'd suggest using webm, but you're already doing that. Changing settings might help, but again, I don't know what decent settings would be. Check out bas ' Cruncher at https://f95zone.to/threads/cruncher-renpy-rpgm-mv-game-compactor-v0-4-1-bas.10227/ . The settings in the bat file might help.
bas, any suggestions for webm settings?
- May 6, 2017
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Here's my crunched version.
Image/audio/video quality is reduced to make shit smaller. This is not a perfect process and sometimes can break a game. You've been warned so no bitching.
The Professor [v1.2 Remastered] [Pixieblink] - Original Size: 1.99GB
Download PC (220MB):
Image/audio/video quality is reduced to make shit smaller. This is not a perfect process and sometimes can break a game. You've been warned so no bitching.
The Professor [v1.2 Remastered] [Pixieblink] - Original Size: 1.99GB
Download PC (220MB):
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If you look at my cruncher tool, you can change the quality settings and use it to process all your videos. The version I posted using the standard settings reducing the file-size by almost 90% with very little decrease in quality.You are 100% right.
After reading your message I had second thoughts about my 'I dont wanna pay google someday' stance and decided to take a second look at webp. Even found a gui to make life easier. Did a bit of reading before switching things around.
Tried it out. Works great. Shaved 40-60% off the best I can do with compressed jpg with very comparable end results. Without mucking up the reds, as jpg tends to do. And it integrates seamlessly with Renpy
I just logged in to let you know and say thanks and saw this msg
So
1. Thanks!
2. You were right.
3. I was... not right? hahaha I hate the W word.
Thanks to you I managed to shave almost 200mb off a 2.8gb game. I'm not being sarcastic, it really does help.
Too bad for me that 90% of my game size is video. But it will work wonders for anyone that has a game that's mostly stills.
I'm using webm with sound, have got the videos down to about 1.3 mb/s at 720. There's just a LOT of them.
Any helpful tips?
And thanks again for the original reply.
webm is a container, just like mkv so you can use several codecs in a webm. vp9 is the most efficient that is currently supported by Ren'Py, and this is what cruncher uses.
2gb to 200mb ?!?!?!?
Running it now. It's chewing the hell out of a 32-core threadripper....
Ya, monkeyed around with it to get the best results I could that would run in native renp'y.
Am using container WEBM / video VP9 / audio VORBIS @ 720 25fps
I'm trying out your cruncher tool right now.
On a jacked out ryzen 32-core threadripper and your cruncher is chewing the hell out of it
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Imagine this - when I ported RenCruncher to Mac/Linux, I decided to test it out on Milfy City. On my 4 core I5. Yeah, that was dumb!Ya, monkeyed around with it to get the best results I could that would run in native renp'y.
Am using container WEBM / video VP9 / audio VORBIS @ 720 25fps
I'm trying out your cruncher tool right now.
On a jacked out ryzen 32-core threadripper and your cruncher is chewing the hell out of it
Hahahah. Might as well go to bed and let it run overnight. Hey, U use what'cha got, right?Imagine this - when I ported RenCruncher to Mac/Linux, I decided to test it out on Milfy City. On my 4 core I5. Yeah, that was dumb!
HOLY SHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By crunching only the video it shrunk the size of the game from 2.81gb to 500mb.
Which integrated seamlessly with renp'y and tested out just fine once decompressed.
Both of you gave me great advice, but bas - you're my new PERSON OF THE YEAR!
Great job on the cruncher and kudos.