He mentioned that to Lois as an example of something that she might have seen. It being something mainstream is the entire point. And when she said she had heard of it but not seen it, he says that she didn't miss much. You are grossly misinterpreting that conversation.
I don't believe that there was any indication of that at all.
Like I said, I was biased about 50 shades
I don't believe that there was any indication of that at all.
But if you look at how their relationship goes, all the dialogue with lois, dialogue of
MC about what to do about lois, you see multiple indications of that fact. I'd love to quote, but I deleted the game, including scripts after playing.
But the contract conversation was very obvious he had never done anything like that & lois had to be the one who downloaded something from the net & changed it to suit their circumstances.
He's experienced in bed, but not so much with holding a leash after writing a contract defining limits
I'd be happy to help with ideas/advice regarding actual BDSM and primarily a D/s relationship (which is where the MC and Lois seem to be heading). I do think going down that path would change the game into something else though which I also think it shouldn't. As has been said, if it doesn't change your story/plot...then the MC should definitely be involved in the training and not a bystander. That's not really how it's done (unless she a complete slave and not a sub...slave training is different to submissive, no one else can train 'your' sub...just doesn't really work). However, on the sub route, there is still romance, respect, intimacy...all the marks of a true 24/7 D/s relationship..which perhaps on that route could be explored more as there really are very, very few VN's that actually explore that properly.
Feel free to message though if you want to bounce some ideas for that aspect.
It's hard to standardize kinks like D/s, so the sub/slave divide is not really that black & white.
A sub interested in swinging/sharing may enjoy encounters with other ppl while a 24/7 TPE 'slave' might have it set as a hard limit.
It basically depends on the individuals & what they are comfortable with, not based on a sub vs slave divide.
'slave' in itself is not really a different type of relationship from sub, but more like a kink similar to 'Daddy'.
It's a concept about ownership that can be pushed as far as the involved individuals want.
"As She's Told" does a ok job of exploring such a mindset in the subs pov chapters about her anxiety over her dom not having enough control/ownership.
Tl;Dr: do not worry about what a sub or slave relationship is, just organically grow the MC-subs relationships to whatever you are comfortable writting, since it's very much based on personal taste/preferences.
Oh, and feel free to add me to the conversation if you need more minds to bounce ideas off.
Always happy to help with a better potrayal of BDSM relationships
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I've been playing the MC as a man in his mid-fourties, and just ignored the bits that didn't fit. But of course that becomes harder to do as more of his past relationships become defined by the story.
Same lol. I had early 40s, but the picture of MC+Kari started the cracks in that setting.
I'd say have MC in late 30s. Kari early 20s & Lois late 20s.
The picture is still kinda against it though.
Anyway, since the story is going into the past so much, I'd say it's better to work out the ages exactly so it doesn't need to be edited again as more of the past is revealed & defined.
Think of the story you have, about the past in the plot & work it out accordingly.