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Tried to stay away but many LIs still seems to incline towards swinging and such. GF/probable wife of a corporate CEO wears next to nothing but when mc says something she blows a fuse. Assistant is straight up slut. Lois is also turning into one. Dev nodges players to those kinds of contents. Will most likely have to drop it if it continues this way.
 

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1. Play without mods
2. Choose with all the girls "sex relationship". With Kari you will tell her that you are going to try the relationship.
3. With Kari never tell her that you love her, "I want to keep my options open".
4. Turn them into your slaves (submissive).
5. Whenever you can, go to the swinging club.

I have been able to verify that the last update ends after Kari proposes to you to be your slave/submissive. Hope it helps.

There are 2 swinging scenes, one with lois, and another one with Kiki.
First up, let me say that everything below is optional/avoidable content;

There is also the option to have Kari "Roleplay" as whoring herself out. This has you walking in on her counting the money from a guy you see leaving the room she is in. Kari then tells you about how she has been offering these services for extra cash. You can choose to end the "roleplay" at which point the game continues on. You can also choose something like "Lie about going home" and "Continue the 'roleplay' ".

If you choose to continue the "roleplay" or 'not go home' option, you get a scene where Kari fucks another guy.

I am not sure why this hasn't added the NTR tag to the game yet. As I said all of this is optional and avoidable, however, I don't think that should exempt it from NTR tag... You can't really just say 'hey its just roleplay' or whatever and dance around proper tagging...

I mean even the Developer refers to it as NTR in-game when presenting the warnings and such...

I don't really care about the addition of optional content, I DO CARE about accurate tags, transparency and giving players correct information.
 

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Tried to stay away but many LIs still seems to incline towards swinging and such. GF/probable wife of a corporate CEO wears next to nothing but when mc says something she blows a fuse. Assistant is straight up slut. Lois is also turning into one. Dev nodges players to those kinds of contents. Will most likely have to drop it if it continues this way.
Seems like your issue is less with it forcing you and more with what it's forcing towards....there are very valid complaints about the former- and it hurts all kinds of players whether they be pro-ntr or pro-harem or pro-romance or whatever...

By "Will most likely have to drop it if it continues" do I take that to mean you support him on patreon? If so I apologize and you've every right to complain.

Or, do you just mean "I am dissatisfied at the gameplay in this free game and I'd like to publically announce I will not play this free game anymore."
I am not sure why this hasn't added the NTR tag to the game yet. As I said all of this is optional and avoidable, however, I don't think that should exempt it from NTR tag... You can't really just say 'hey its just roleplay' or whatever and dance around proper tagging...
I would agree, surprised that hasn't been changed. Though it does have the swinging tag - many of the Kari/kiki/lois scenes feel far more ntrish than swingerish..
 
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There is also the option to have Kari "Roleplay" as whoring herself out. This has you walking in on her counting the money from a guy you see leaving the room she is in. Kari then tells you about how she has been offering these services for extra cash. You can choose to end the "roleplay" at which point the game continues on. You can also choose something like "Lie about going home" and "Continue the 'roleplay' ".
I think you completely misread this scene unless there's a second on the gf/fwb path in the recent update.
 

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I think you completely misread this scene unless there's a second on the gf/slut path in the recent update.
I was also confused - is he talking about Kari in the backroom of the diner? Uhh that aint roleplay :cautious: Or maybe something else was added I never saw because I don't generally play the Kari non-gf path.
 
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I think you completely misread this scene unless there's a second on the gf/fwb path in the recent update.
Entirely possible.

English isn't the first language for me. If I have messed up or made mistakes in interpretation I am at fault. That said, my point is that (avoidable) NTR content is in the game and so the game should be tagged that.

Transparency is important for players to choose (and hopefully feel less need to complain when *Surprise*)

Almost no one likes surprise kinks. Especially with the game recently taking a darker tone. To be fair the Dev said on Patreon that he is planning some kind of solution or course correction for it as many of us were unhappy with the darker direction.

Personally, I think I will drop $upport for this title as its my rule to never support games with NTR.

Dev's choice to add it, My choice where my Euro's go.
 
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English isn't the first language for me. If I have messed up or made mistakes in interpretation I am at fault. That said, my point is that (avoidable) NTR content is in the game and so the game should be tagged that.
Agreed on this one. There is NTR, it's avoidable but it's there. My main concern with it, without proper tag we'll never see the end of that discussion.
 
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ntirely possible.

English isn't the first language for me. If I have messed up or made mistakes in interpretation I am at fault. That said, my point is that (avoidable) NTR content is in the game and so the game should be tagged that.
Well to clarify, the only way to get that scene involves 4 specific choices.

You cannot be in any type of relationship with Kari at all. None. This requires rejecting her...twice. Twice.

In this situation, yes, she will do things in the back room of the bar. To see this scene, requires 2 specific choices. It is not roleplay, you are not involved with her in any capacity (so, it is not actually NTR at all to be factual and pedantic).
 
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Well to clarify, the only way to get that scene involves 4 specific choices.

You cannot be in any type of relationship with Kari at all. None. This requires rejecting her...twice. Twice.

In this situation, yes, she will do things in the back room of the bar. To see this scene, requires 2 specific choices. It is not roleplay, you are not involved with her in any capacity (so, it is not actually NTR at all to be factual and pedantic).
Kiki getting gangbanged. Suzie leaving MC for another one and MC broken by that. Jacqui and Pete stuff. Aria and Shae stuff etc. Not just Kari.
 
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Kiki getting gangbanged. Suzie leaving MC for another one and MC broken by that. Jacqui and Pete stuff. Aria and Shae stuff etc. Not just Kari.
*sighs*

Def def def...

1. Kiki was before you even knew she existed. Not NTR (you don't even get to watch the video should you search for it).
2. Suzie is an EX-GF...you know what EX means Def yes? What happened before Game Day 01 is irellevant. She also didn't leave you for someone else. Not NTR.
3. Jaqui is not an LI (has no code in the script to be a LI btw). Not NTR.
4. Aria is debateable...will give you that (but is supposedly bad code with her and Kari having fun if you didn't specifiy Kari could). The threesome is a choice so it it happening regardless is bad code. So when fixed, not NTR.
5. Shea? Shae what exactly...something happened in the last update I'm unaware of?

You're reaching, to try and prove a narrative that does not exist. I like you Def, you know that, but if you don't like that folk have done things in the past before you even know they exist and the game starts, this probably ain't for you.
 
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Def def def...

1. Kiki was before you even knew she existed. Not NTR (you don't even get to watch the video should you search for it).
2. Suzie is an EX-GF...you know what EX means Def yes? What happened before Game Day 01 is irellevant. She also didn't leave you for someone else. Not NTR.
3. Jaqui is not an LI (has no code in the script to be a LI btw). Not NTR.
4. Aria is debateable...will give you that (but is supposedly bad code with her and Kari having fun if you didn't specifiy Kari could). The threesome is a choice so it it happening regardless is bad code. So when fixed, not NTR.
5. Shea? Shae what exactly...something happened in the last update I'm unaware of?

You're reaching, to try and prove a narrative that does not exist. I like you Def, you know that, but if you don't like that folk have done things in the past before you even know they exist and the game starts, this probably ain't for you.
Thanks mav, I like you too. :love:

First of all, I need to make clear my stance. As long as AVNs have good story I don't care even if it has hard-NTR.

  1. You are probably right about her, it was in the past. Though, parading naked in front of Jed can be count as soft NTR. (You can see a single frame of the gangbang though, so you see she is getting railed.)
  2. Suzie stuff is NTR man, no way around it. She was MC's gf she got pregnant then left him. On top of that she started dating and MC felt terrible about it. That is textbook NTR.
  3. Aria with Kari is forced sharing. If you consider lesbian stuff as part of NTR then it is NTR. Also she fucked Shae too.
  4. Shae, like I said fucked Aria. She fucked with Aria at the pool party then she took Aria with her(unless something changes there.) So sex without permission then stealing LI from MC. This is also textbook.
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You simply don't put a scene like this if you don't want NTR in your game. Even if we take NTR on it's face value, Suzie's thing and Shae&Aria thing sketchy as fuck. Kari stuff is also troublesome. Yeah, for reaching that scene you need to refuse her but she is an LI and fucking with someone else, it's at best avoidable NTR.

Like I said I don't care one way or another if it does not have bad effect on story but there are AVNs got tagged for much less. So I don't think I am reaching, it's there.

Thank you for listening my TED Talk.:LOL:
 

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Is there an Android port for this update?
Yes, on this site - to find Android ports, compressed versions, or the like, use the Search feature (top right of the screen). For best results, go to Preferences (click your username below the search box to access), and set Search Results to show newest first.
 

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i hate like hell having to agree with you .. i wonder what happened to togs .. this game is not like what it started out to be :cry:
Sadly, I have to say that I agree with this!
In fact, I think the Dev has "lost the plot"!!
I have completed a number of playthroughs now and in a few of them, I have avoided having sex with Kayla. What did I find in the latest update, Kayla is supposedly pregnant to the MC??!! Wonder how that happened, Dev???
 
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Sadly, I have to say that I agree with this!
In fact, I think the Dev has "lost the plot"!!
I have completed a number of playthroughs now and in a few of them, I have avoided having sex with Kayla. What did I find in the latest update, Kayla is supposedly pregnant to the MC??!! Wonder how that happened, Dev???
sounds like MC's pullout game is weak AF....

Because I definitely remember making that choice with Kayla at party...
 

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Suzie stuff is NTR man, no way around it. She was MC's gf she got pregnant then left him. On top of that she started dating and MC felt terrible about it. That is textbook NTR
No it isn't. She didn't leave for another man. She met another man after she left. It's also not like she left left...she was with her parents and they moved pretty much overnight. Should she have told the MC? Yes she should, but it's not NTR in any capacity.
Aria with Kari is forced sharing. If you consider lesbian stuff as part of NTR then it is NTR. Also she fucked Shae too.
Again, bad coding, shouldn't be happening. The threesome is entirely avoidable (for those it isn't, it's a code error) and her having fun with Aria on her last night is bad coding to do with something else, never had it happen in any of my saves where I told Kari no fun while away). As for Aria and Shae, neither are your LI's, GF's, Subs, Mistresses or anything else you want to try and refer to them as. Aria is a casual fuck only (both times can be avoided) and Shae is nothing currently (and also a lesbian so....).

So are you now saying that any potential LI that you may or may not be interested in is off bounds to everyone? Really...don't Def...don't be that guy.
ou simply don't put a scene like this if you don't want NTR in your game
That also isn't NTR.

Again...reaching...reaching hard for something that doesn't exist.

Sadly, I have to say that I agree with this!
In fact, I think the Dev has "lost the plot"!!
I have completed a number of playthroughs now and in a few of them, I have avoided having sex with Kayla. What did I find in the latest update, Kayla is supposedly pregnant to the MC??!! Wonder how that happened, Dev???
Code error. One of many unfortunately. Will be fixed...well, whenever Togs decided to clean up his game and stop introducing new shit to fuck up.
 
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