VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Secret Family [v0.2.0] [Diamond Novels]

[tazaaron]

Like the 1st release there is a patch coming for the English. It was said when released there would be one a day or so after.

Also the discord thing will be removed, from what was said they were unaware that the coder had added that into the game.

 

[Orichan]

I don't care really if someone see what I play or not. If people feel the need to hide in the closet being shameful etc. Just turn off the option in discord. Just see it as a way for creators to advertise their creation really.

"Hi Discord Friends !! I'm currently NUTTING to some PORN games featuring Lolis & Incestuous relationships !!"

Yeah no. + what a hassle to turn it off, then turn it back on everytime. I want my friends to know I play League of Legends, GTA RP or other games like so they can join if they want. Not when I play porn games, there's no point in sharing that information

Anyway, glad the creator of this game took notice and is gonna remove it

 

[Tektron]

"brothers" for "hermanos", "Dude" for "Tío" ... I rally switched for spanish sometimes to even get what they are saying^^.

 

[punisher2099]

Why is the mc referring both Elena and Erika as his daughter?

 

[Krynh]

Also the discord thing will be removed, from what was said they were unaware that the coder had added that into the game.

I think they're lying about that myself.

 

[SetraNevae]

I like the models, i like how the story's going . just too short, when you start having fun...it ends. patience for the next update.

 

[Hahn1900]

but rough to read... im german and i know my english is bad (written, i can read and understand everything)... but the english in this game is really something... uff. You need somebody with better englisch knowledge to read this over.

Beside that, solid start, keep it up.

needs an incest patch, cause the relatives are obiviously and its very odd to refer to the mc as a "godfather" and vice versa

Ah, a little something... the discord spy is really strange, dont know what this has to do in this game, but remove it... many people mentioned it in this thread. I got rid of it, cause i know how to handle my PC, but many others dont. And of course this sort of "spy" is not legal, but this site offers games for free that arent for free, so we live in a very grey zone here and cant really complain about the discord spy without being hypocrite.

 

[Nitwitty]

Hopefully that's all it does and the information isn't being logged somewhere. That's still really filthy though, obviously people probably don't want that being displayed as a banner under their name to the world.
Maybe just switching Discord to not "display the currently running game as a status message" will solve it, but I'm not sure I'd trust it (shutting it down would work though I guess, at least in this specific instance).
Again I'd highly recommend properly sandboxing questionable programs (no network access or access to things running on your system) or going a step further and using them only in disconnected virtual machines, if this kind of thing concerns you anyway. I assume most of these games are not going to do anything like this to you, but eventually one will, like this one.

Some random guy in a discord accused you of being a troll.

"Hi Discord Friends !! I'm currently NUTTING to some PORN games featuring Lolis & Incestuous relationships !!"

Yeah no. + what a hassle to turn it off, then turn it back on everytime. I want my friends to know I play League of Legends, GTA RP or other games like so they can join if they want. Not when I play porn games, there's no point in sharing that information

Anyway, glad the creator of this game took notice and is gonna remove it

I love the geniuses who believe proclaiming it's okay for them to advertise to the world they are playing these games that somehow that is going to convince everyone else to be okay with that.
It was impossibly imbecilic of the devs to be this mind-numbingly tone deaf to even consider that this was an okay thing to do....and not inform players. This just turned off a bunch of people who was considering spending money on the subscribestar. Astounding! Game is deleted until further notice.

 

[bigguy_foryou]

Oh dear. I don't want to have people see I play Honnie pup on steam while on discord... Sooo scummy steam forced me... oh wait.. turn it off in the settings... Any steam game you play does the same... you got the choice.

Are you being intentionally obtuse. Playing a game through a platform and having that platform advertise that you're playing it is one thing, that's expected, but this is unexpected. Yes you can turn it off in Discord, I get that that is an option, but do you not agree that most people would not think they would have to, given that this has likely never come up for them before?
This is not an issue of people choosing to advertise what they're playing then complaining about it, but having it happen to them unexpectedly, not even from auto detect but due to a library bundled with the game that intentionally override's Discord's activity feature (and who knows what else). And it's not as if people were tricked into displaying that they were playing Minesweeper, if you say you don't understand how this could be a problem for some people I'd say you're lying. You might be ok with broadcasting your every private action, but most people are not.

Also see this:

Yeah no. + what a hassle to turn it off, then turn it back on everytime. I want my friends to know I play League of Legends, GTA RP or other games like so they can join if they want. Not when I play porn games, there's no point in sharing that information

Even if you knew in advance to turn it off, what an inconvenience. Would it not be better to have an option inside the game you could turn on if you wanted to share that you were playing the game with Discord (with confirmation of course) instead of having it assumed and having to disable Discord's activity feature instead?
Saying that, the game even having that code in it would freak me out even if it was seemingly an option.

Anyway, glad the creator of this game took notice and is gonna remove it

That's good news and I'm glad he walked it back, but I'm still going to run future releases in a box.

 

[varkatzas666]

I'll keep an eye on this project, it looks promising,great girls and renders

 

[renice]

And the downloads containing spyware are still listed on the first page.
Perhaps I'll make a game that connects to players banks and directly just sends me money; see how far we can push things, seeing as this discord stuff is just fine with the mods.

 

[Joshua Tree]

So is the outcry over the actual file found, or what it does or doesn't do with your discord? Launching the game meanwhile on discord doesn't change my status to playing it. It doesn't start post notices in chat about me playing it, and when I check my "game activity" it's not listed among any of the games I played since I first installed discord.. So is this a big nothing burger, or what gives?

 

[bigguy_foryou]

So is the outcry over the actual file found, or what it does or doesn't do with your discord? Launching the game meanwhile on discord doesn't change my status to playing it. It doesn't start post notices in chat about me playing it, and when I check my "game activity" it's not listed among any of the games I played since I first installed discord.. So is this a big nothing burger, or what gives?

See

I just checked, and it seems that the game is turning your discord status to display to the whole world that you're playing it. With his subscribestar link next to it.
If it wasn't for your message I would have never noticed, because I don't check Discord when I play games, I usually check after quitting the game.

So yeah, people who don't want everyone to know you're playing adult games, well close discord.. Or edit the script

I don't know why it's apparently not happening for you.

Here's a snippet of some of the code that's included.

init -20 python:
    import discord_rpc
    import time

    def readyCallback(current_user):
        print('Our user: {}'.format(current_user))

    def disconnectedCallback(codeno, codemsg):
        print('Disconnected from Discord rich presence RPC. Code {}: {}'.format(
            codeno, codemsg
        ))

    def errorCallback(errno, errmsg):
        print('An error occurred! Error {}: {}'.format(
            errno, errmsg
        ))

label start:
    python:
        callbacks = {
            'ready': readyCallback,
            'disconnected': disconnectedCallback,
            'error': errorCallback,
        }
        discord_rpc.initialize('836424375740923974', callbacks=callbacks, log=False)
        startTime = int(time.time())
        discord_rpc.update_connection()
        discord_rpc.run_callbacks()
        discord_rpc.update_presence(
            **{
                'details': 'Jugando',
                'state': 'subscribestar.adult/asturdesigns',
                'large_image_key': 'carga',
                'start_timestamp': startTime
            }
        )

        discord_rpc.update_connection()
        discord_rpc.run_callbacks()

See

You must be registered to see the links

for some context.
If you launch the game from a terminal/cmd window you should see the print outputs.

Someone else mentioned finding other questionable things in the code. I don't know about any of that as I haven't really looked.

 

[renice]

It doesn't start post notices in chat about me playing it, and when I check my "game activity" it's not listed among any of the games I played since I first installed discord.. So is this a big nothing burger, or what gives?

That's more a symptom of it not being particularly well coded, not an indication of benign behaviour.
RenPy games are very reasonably considered "safe". So going out of your way to add code to one to make it reach outside of the sandbox, doing it in version 2 when it was not in v1, not informing the existing players, not responding reasonably when it comes to light... those are the reasons why this is seen unfavourably.

If they put an explanation in the changelog, make it opt-in, and put a disclaimer in the game itself, then this would be much less of an issue.

This is the game that wanted to add DLC for the fun-stuff, so adding a discord tracker would be a very nice feature for the dev's as they'd be able to see who was using it correctly, and who leaked a copy to the public. Not in this current version of course, but it is quite easy to see that as the reason for starting to add code like this.

 

[fivesteaks]

That's more a symptom of it not being particularly well coded, not an indication of benign behaviour.
RenPy games are very reasonably considered "safe". So going out of your way to add code to one to make it reach outside of the sandbox, doing it in version 2 when it was not in v1, not informing the existing players, not responding reasonably when it comes to light... those are the reasons why this is seen unfavourably.

If they put an explanation in the changelog, make it opt-in, and put a disclaimer in the game itself, then this would be much less of an issue.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Anyway, here's a patch for v2 that kills the discord integration. If they pull this crap again for v3 and this patch doesn't kill it, ping me and I'll hack it out again.

 

[dacris69]

this update is a complete mess with the language and writing

 

[renice]

Anyway, here's a patch for v2 that kills the discord integration. If they pull this crap again for v3 and this patch doesn't kill it, ping me and I'll hack it out again.

Nice hack, however, given the reason for it being written; I'd suggest using an rpy file rather than the compressed rpyc. At least that way it's in plaintext and easier for people to view, should they be (quite reasonably) curious as to its content.

Yes, I know how to decompile an rpyc, but does everybody?
Thanks for the patch file, very nice implementation.

 

[renice]

I wonder if we can have that patch sent to Lewdpatcher ?

 

[Virgin Tag Hunter]

Are there virgin girl/s in the game?

 

[Krynh]

Are there virgin girl/s in the game?

the kids might be virgins.