VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Senior [v0.1.7] [Yc3k]

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Yc3k

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I liked the game, but I must say without wanting to offend, that it seems that the dev chose the ugliest models possible. I have HS installed so I dare say that with 5 minutes in char creator you can create more passable models.
None taken. I got some rant earlier about mother being ugly but I don't see what is wrong with the other girls. I didn't want to go with the classic "Everyone's a smoking hot supermodel with huge tits" on purpose to add some realism to the girls looks, but I don't see them as ugly. Far from that.
 

Centurion

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None taken. I got some rant earlier about mother being ugly but I don't see what is wrong with the other girls. I didn't want to go with the classic "Everyone's a smoking hot supermodel with huge tits" on purpose to add some realism to the girls looks, but I don't see them as ugly. Far from that.
I agree and that's one of the things I like about the game. There's a good mix, just like in real life. There are a few things though that seem unnatural and could stand changing if it wouldn't take too much time away from development -

Sometimes Haley closes her eyes and keeps them closed while she's talking. Would seem more natural if she was blinking - close them one frame then open them again as the conversation progresses.

When Gracie winks, she keeps her eye closed for the rest of the conversation.

Some of the mothers look like either they're wearing a bulky chastity belt or have unnaturally huge camel toes.

I'm not suggesting taking time away from development to change these things but maybe keep in mind during future development?
 

myuhinny

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I see nothing wrong with any of the models and I'm glad the author doesn't do the same generic thing that pretty much almost everyone using honey select models does and that is to make most if not all of the models have these huge ass ugly looking boobs which is the reason why I ignore most of the honey select games that are out there
 

Yc3k

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Sometimes Haley closes her eyes and keeps them closed while she's talking. Would seem more natural if she was blinking - close them one frame then open them again as the conversation progresses.

When Gracie winks, she keeps her eye closed for the rest of the conversation.

Some of the mothers look like either they're wearing a bulky chastity belt or have unnaturally huge camel toes.

I'm not suggesting taking time away from development to change these things but maybe keep in mind during future development?
That was not blinking, that was me trying to portrait an emotion. :) I do agree that it would look much better if she was blinking during the conversation, unfortunately I'm not using sprites but jpeg images for the conversations. So, adding additional blinking animations would mean additional images which is 0.5 to 1 MB each. I could use png files for that purpose, but switching from jpg to png would mean that the game would grow in size from it's current 400MB to somewhat 1GB in its current form. With all of the content added we would be looking at a 5-6 GB game size, which is HUGE for a VN.

Creating sprites from a screenshot is a bitch so I ditched that early on in the development. After I've completed the main game, I'll look into an alternative.

I see nothing wrong with any of the models and I'm glad the author doesn't do the same generic thing that pretty much almost everyone using honey select models does and that is to make most if not all of the models have these huge ass ugly looking boobs which is the reason why I ignore most of the honey select games that are out there
I'm glad you understand. I like all the chars so far expect Yvonne. I like her, but I'm considering to give her smaller boobs because her bonkers are huge, right now.
 

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That was not blinking, that was me trying to portrait an emotion. :) I do agree that it would look much better if she was blinking during the conversation, unfortunately I'm not using sprites but jpeg images for the conversations. So, adding additional blinking animations would mean additional images which is 0.5 to 1 MB each. I could use png files for that purpose, but switching from jpg to png would mean that the game would grow in size from it's current 400MB to somewhat 1GB in its current form. With all of the content added we would be looking at a 5-6 GB game size, which is HUGE for a VN.

Creating sprites from a screenshot is a bitch so I ditched that early on in the development. After I've completed the main game, I'll look into an alternative.
Oh, OK. And I agree with all of that. It isn't worth making file sizes huge or taking time away from development.
 

Stuka47

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I like the game, at the moment only a HJ and a nude scene, but the characters are different and beautifully designed, also the mother!
They have not the usual strong Asia stile , Yc3k has taken more time for this, very good.
I especially like that the characters are built up slowly without getting boring. The postures and facial expressions during the conversations are very good, is for me one of the best I have seen so far in Honeyselect. The characters seem credible, I like that a lot.
Also the humor ist nice
No, I don't hate the grandpa, I find him interesting, hehe.

+ The UI is clear and concise,
+ The grind factor is not too high.
+ The prologue is long but good
+ Renpy
+ No Eric

Conclusion, in my opinion very good work, very well done, I am curious how it will go on.

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About Princess-Trainer, yes this is a good game, but not Witch-Trainer, this is grinding pur, the original Witch-trainer from Akabur is IMO not playabel, the same as BB, please dont make a game like this.

If you want to achieve more patereons you could, for example, offer translations, as with "Man of the house" just a thought
 

Yc3k

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I like the game, at the moment only a HJ and a nude scene, but the characters are different and beautifully designed
Thanks for the support. I know there's not a lot of H content in the game right now, but that will change with the upcoming 0.1.4 release.

also the mother!
I really like the mother char. She different and distinctive and that what I love about her. But I also understand why some people don't like her looks. I've created an alternative version of the mom char and will put a Patreon only poll to see which one the players like more. Hopefully my current one.

They have not the usual strong Asia stile
I have tried to stay away from the usual oriental looking chars and to try to create more European/American looking chars. I do hope I've succeeded in that.

They have not the usual strong Asia stile , Yc3k has taken more time for this, very good.
I especially like that the characters are built up slowly without getting boring. The postures and facial expressions during the conversations are very good, is for me one of the best I have seen so far in Honeyselect. The characters seem credible, I like that a lot.
Believe it or not, but around 60% of my time spent on development has been writing dialogues and character development. I have tried to create each character with a different personality and have tried to write believable conversations. This has been really hard sometimes and has made me appreciate real authors a lot more.

No, I don't hate the grandpa, I find him interesting
The grandpa is there for a reason. Even though most of you don't see it that way yet. He's Yin to your Yang and will be vital for the story. Without him and his "encouragement" Ben would have never started his quest nor would he be doing the stuff that he's doing. It will be up to the player to choose to fall to the Dark side or follow the path of light.

About Princess-Trainer, yes this is a good game, but not Witch-Trainer, this is grinding pur, the original Witch-trainer from Akabur is IMO not playabel, the same as BB, please dont make a game like this.
About this... The grind will be unavoidable if I want to create a branching story with all the content I plan on putting in. The grind is there right now. I am aware of that and the only way to soften up the tediousness of grinding is to make it enjoyable. I try to do this by creating interesting chars and dialogues and will try to soften it up some more by adding various other activities. In this game you will have to slowly build up the relationship with the girls and seduce them in order for them to do more and more kinky stuff. If there's a way to do that without the grind I don't know it.

If you want to achieve more patereons you could, for example, offer translations, as with "Man of the house" just a thought
I couldn't agree more. I have already thought about that. The problem is that I haven't find anyone willing to translate this for free yet (to any language) and my current balance doesn't allow me to pay for a professional to do it. So, this will be done in the future but for now you will have to make do with the English only version. I only speak two languages, my native language and English. Since I come from a small country with a low population, translating this to my native tongue would be a waste of time at the moment.
 

myuhinny

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For me the MC is a young horny teenager and he would of started down the pathway of trying to get someone eventually what with friends and the internet (I mean the first thing I did the first time I got onto the internet for the first time was to look for porn) and he would of done it without grandturd and as such I will never see him as a actual part of anything and I'll never give him anything or ask him for anything and there is always ways to get around everything if needed.

Hopefully the mother stays the way that she is or I might have to remove her from my list of ones to go after.
 

Ares02

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you know what? (no, not the guy above me, I was talking in general...)
even though many characters are under my age-limit standard, most of them (and at least the 4 with whom I interacted) are just downright lovable (especially the twins... yeah... pun intended).
If I had played this game 10 years ago, I would already be in love.


EDIT: also, I found a sort of bug (not really a bug, just a flag-problem maybe)
when you ask around about Claudia, if you ask only to Hailey and Gracie you can still talk to Claudia and go with the blackm- .... err... helping hand route
but the MC mentions to Claudia things he could've know only asking Alison, even if I didn't asked her.
 

Yc3k

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EDIT: also, I found a sort of bug (not really a bug, just a flag-problem maybe)
when you ask around about Claudia, if you ask only to Hailey and Gracie you can still talk to Claudia and go with the blackm- .... err... helping hand route
but the MC mentions to Claudia things he could've know only asking Alison, even if I didn't asked her.
This is definitely a useful info. The game shouldn't allow you to continue the story with Claudia (good path or bad) until you've talked to Gracie, Haley and Allison. It's probably a missed flag somewhere. I'll look into it. Thanks.
 
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Yc3k

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For me the MC is a young horny teenager and he would of started down the pathway of trying to get someone eventually what with friends and the internet (I mean the first thing I did the first time I got onto the internet for the first time was to look for porn) and he would of done it without grandturd and as such I will never see him as a actual part of anything and I'll never give him anything or ask him for anything and there is always ways to get around everything if needed.
It's not a matter of porn or MC's interest in opposite sex. He was a horndog before grandpa came along in the story which you already know if you've played through the intro. This is the matter of mentorship and guidance. The grandpa char pushed MC over the edge, so to speak. Deep down MC is a good guy and throughout the game grandpa will try to get him to go that extra mile. Not for MC's sake, but for his own sake and pleasure. Now, will the player go over that edge or not will be left to choice.

Hopefully the mother stays the way that she is
You and me both. I would really hate to change her.
 

Ares02

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even though many characters are under my age-limit standard, most of them (and at least the 4 with whom I interacted) are just downright lovable (especially the twins... yeah... pun intended).
If I had played this game 10 years ago, I would already be in love.
let me expand this
Almost all the characters with more than 2 lines are good, they give a really nice vibe and I didn't see any character you could define as "throwaway" (those character without deepness you put together in a quarter time than the others).
-. Ben
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-. Sleazy Grandpa
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-. Ben's Mother
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-. Gracie
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-. Haley
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-. Claudia
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-. Alison
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So, yeah, for now I think this game aced all the targets.
 

myuhinny

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Not sure how the intro plays as I only did it once and after that I skip it now so that I don't have to see grandturd ever again. You should be able to hold the CTRL button to speed to that scene in the shower or if CTRL doesn't work and it requires lots of clicking then get a idle clicker and set it to the fastest clicking. Mine can click once every 1/100 S If there is a way you could try and see if you can save right before the shower scene and then load the save whenever you want to see it again.
 

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Not sure how the intro plays as I only did it once and after that I skip it now so that I don't have to see grandturd ever again. You should be able to hold the CTRL button to speed to that scene in the shower or if CTRL doesn't work and it requires lots of clicking then get a idle clicker and set it to the fastest clicking. Mine can click once every 1/100 S If there is a way you could try and see if you can save right before the shower scene and then load the save whenever you want to see it again.
yay :D
I actually know there could be some way around (actually yes, ctrl button works fine)... but I'm lazy and just thought the shower parts was good enough to justify a "recollection room" of sort :D
 

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Yes I know I said I would not play this game a while back but its been on my mind since then and I had to give it another try.
I have 1 request of you if you can do it and put in a none blackmail route for those that you have in the game being blackmailed. To me any form of blackmail, super power, magic or super natural power including mind control for sex is rape.

Now with that being said other than a few wrong words being used I have ran into only 1 bug and her is the traceback report.
This happen on Claudia's first real kiss for helping with her homework. (This should not be blackmail anyway.)
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This is as far as I have gotten so far in this brand new palythrough in v0.1.3c

ADD: Wrong word, should be "our" not "out" The_Senior 2018-03-24 12-03-54-31.jpg

Ok now I am done with this update for now.
 

myuhinny

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There already is a non blackmail route for the sister. I went the blackmail route with her and she starts to like the MC and becomes happy that he is helping her.
 

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There already is a non blackmail route for the sister. I went the blackmail route with her and she starts to like the MC and becomes happy that he is helping her.
It is still listed as blackmail in the game variables, I chose no for it to but it is still listed as blackmail. The_Senior 2018-03-24 12-33-36-00.jpg
 

myuhinny

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Could easily just open the console and type in claudia_blackmailed=False Not sure if it would change anything in game or not though.
 

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Could easily just open the console and type in claudia_blackmailed=False Not sure if it would change anything in game or not though.
Being that the game is so short at this time there is no need for it and when you chose no when it ask if you wanted to blackmail her and it puts it true anyway does not make any since.

With only wrong words and some misspelled word and only 1 bug so far that I see I will play the next version to come out and hope we will get more.
 
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