NergalsNest - I wish you hadn't used words like "freaking out over something trivial" and stuff like that. But it's okay. No one is forcing me to play your game. I took screenshots of the game and removed the arrow in the game and wanted to come up with a solution. But I don't know how to create nice looking tabs using the ancient art program I have called Jasc Animation Shop 3. And honestly, I don't have any faith that you will come up with anything nice either. But that's okay. I just want to know if there is a way that I can play this game without the arrow (no arrow at all) because I already know that change location menu is on top. Is there an file I can delete or change or a patch I can install that will remove just that one arrow? Please let me know. Thanks. PS - Also, if you do make a patch can you make something future proof for upcoming updates?
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Works for me, thank you. Keep up the great work
What are some of these games that do it well? A lot of what I've seen usually comes down to corruption, modifying the woman's personality so she'll be on board with it or "his dick is so amazing I don't care if I'm part of a harem" or they weren't very well developed characters in the first place. Not saying these are terrible, but they have a place and type of game they fit into, which I don't think TSP is.
Also, if the woman's original personality wouldn't allow for it, then you change their personality so they would, that is the definition of it being forced. Catherine and Malaena, want the MC, not a harem, in their perfect world brains they are imagining families, settling down and marriage. It's what give them part of their character, why the behave the way they do in some things, how they see and treat you.
Heck even Kittenna, Lillith, Mia might not care if the MC is sleeping with other people, but that doesn't mean they'll just be ok about being considered part of a "harem". The only one that might be super chill about it is Shelly, because Shelly is the kind of woman that would do anything for someone she really cared about.
For the reasons I have mentioned many times already. Also I'm not sure how what I said can be considered contradictory?
You literally contradict yourself with these two sentences. "Harem route should be a path that is available on replaying of a game." Followed by "You shouldn't be forced to replay a game to see a different outcome."
Also that is your opinion and I think many people would disagree. One of the big reasons I have replayed Mass Effect so many times is to see what the different outcomes are of selecting certain options. And I can guarantee I'm not alone on that.
You're kind of backing up what I said before, that if a game is interesting enough to replay then having different romance options available for a playthrough makes more sense.
That's where your logic is faulty. That's like someone with a pregnancy fetish saying "For those of who want to get the women pregnant..." Well it's not going to go be in the game, stop thinking your fetish, should and must be put in the game.
I think that's one of the biggest problems I have with it, is people don't see it's just another fetish they want in the game. If a) I don't think it fits and b) I don't like it personally then why would I want to put it in the game?
Sorry if I upset / offended you. I just found it surprising (but also apt to say) to see someone say they literally couldn't play the game because of an animated arrow and then write 2 very long posts about it. I could make a patch to do that, but honestly, I don't have any faith that you won't have a similar reaction to something else in the game.
- Nov 18, 2018
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red queen gave a mission with pauline but i when click on pauline nothing happens. I tried some other version on comment section still cant progress. what should i do
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EDIT: Oh, and it might look better if it was a tab with "round out borders" instead of a floating box.
I hastily made this in my 15 year old graphics program. You don't need to use the same shape. It doesn't have to be a rectangle. You can give it a more interesting shape. But having the transparent lines would make it look like some of your other UI, like the arrow you use on the speech bubbles at the bottom of the screen. You can use different colors. You should definitely use colors and borders (maybe a thicker one than the one I used) that make it blend in less with the environment. And you could use a much better font. It is just an idea. Nothing more. But anyway, I won't be bothering you again. I've played hundreds of adult games and there are plenty more out there that I have not played yet or are still under development. I am going to play those games. Good luck.
UPDATE: Another idea is to just use a round out tab but instead of a white background, make it black and with a lot of opacity so you can see the background behind it. Use white font and maybe give the tab a white border.
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Here is another idea. Not my image. But you can use the concept. Make is so the arrow is only the triangle part. like before. Make it white. like before. And make an animated border on the arrow so it attracts the viewer's attention. I also wouldn't put this arrow at the top center because someone might think it is part of the ceiling light or something. Put it off to the right side at the top so someone can easily see that it is a menu UI and not part of the environment. And the border doesn't have to be that thick by the way. And it doesn't have to be an animation where the color just changes to a different color. It can be an animated texture that moves like lava or something.
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- Jun 5, 2017
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Well mass effect is a game that is much much more then just a smut game. You can play the whole game without ever even pursuing a relationship and still thoroughly enjoy it. The market for that game are RPG fans, and most if not all of the game is appealing. Hate to break it to you, but its not even close to the same for your game. While your story is good, the gameplay is tedious at best. The goal, which is the relationships are gated by boring gameplay. So when you force people to paythrough multiple times, to see what they want, it becomes a question of "Is this really worth doing again."
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I would have to agree with this. The fun of mass effect is the gameplay and the story. Ultimately people are here for the porn, I'd also point out that harems happened for various reasons in reality. Why its somehow badly written or unreasonable to have in an already over the to scifi or fantasy setting seems like questionable logic. The set up for the game itself already comes off as something you'd expect from a harem, the mc is literally the only male on a ship full of women. You've already set things up with a certain expectation right from the start.
The logic of a harem destroying a girls personality is also pretty weird, because it seems to be arguing that sharing a man or not being willing to share a man is somehow a large part of their personality. Thats on you the writer, it has nothing to do with the concept of a harem causing this problem. Mia being a mad scientist and crazy, doesn't change at all because of she banging the same guy as all of the other women on the ship. She's still the same character, to be simply, the harem aspect basically is a small part of overall character.
See like the above point here, none of what stated here conflicts with their personality or base desires. In the harem, they would still have every aspect of their personalities. They would still have/want the mc, they would still have marriage, they could still settle down, they would still have a family though a bigger one. The issue with your logic Nergal, is that you're pretending this one thing is a great super defining aspect of any of these characters, and its not. Its not even close to a core aspect of any of the girls personalities as you have written them, them being or not being in a harem actually literally changes nothing about their personalities in any sort of noticeable way. Honestly this entire discussion is like when someone tries to make their sexuality their entire personality, no one really cares and its not a major aspect of people lives unless their lives are devoid of meaning or they're focusing on it to make up for having nothing special going on in their life.
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True, very much agree with what you said here. Though the goal of next year is to incorporate the gameplay elements into the game while continuing on with the relationship progressions, to actually open it up as a game as opposed to what is effectively at the moment, a VN. So I wouldn't judge the sentiment of what I said based on what the game is now, but what the game will be. That said though, there are still plenty of VNs out there that promote replayability, mainly through choice based options.
Agreed, the game is being marketed as a porn game. It is not being marketed as a harem game. Again, I'll keep using the pregnancy example because it's apt. If people play a game expecting pregnancy in it, then they'll be disappointed. Most people check if their make or break fetishes are in the game before playing it.
I never said harem as a concept was bad writing or unreasonable. I said I've only seen it used inside a corruption context or a really badly written context. The part I think is unreaonsable is to assume that 7 different personalities would all be into the idea of a harem, just because they happen to be living in the same place.
That's not really being very faithful to the argument I made at all. Their character development and personality determines how they feel about any big or small thing. Including how they would feel about being within a harem. Most of the characters wouldn't like the idea of being in it. The argument I made was that if a character wasn't designed that way in mind, and you change it, you are breaking their personality to fit whatever you are trying to hamfist in.
Also, just a note on something else you said "sharing a man or not being willing to share a man" - this is different from a harem, from what I've been led to believe? I've already stated several times that some characters don't give shit about the MC sleeping with other people.
Disagree. As I stated in the post "in their perfect world brains they are imagining families, settling down and marriage" - maybe I should have added that addendum of "with just the 2 of them". Their perfect world imaginings doesn't include sharing it with other people. They want to wake up next to MC every morning, they want to go bed at night sleeping next to MC. The dynamic of monogamy and a harem is completely different and I'd think it would be bad faith to argue otherwise.
I don't disagree with anything you said. But that's mainly because you misinterpreted (or rather I badly worded) my point. My point is if you design a character's personality then you have to answer the questions about what they think about certain things. In this case when the topic of harem was brought up my immediate response when thinking about the characters was "Catherine and Malaena wouldn't like this". Because I had already thought and developed their personalities. It wasn't a "they are also bi, lets slap that on them." It was actually thought out from a position of already established design and personality and history.
Ultimately we can keep debating this until the cows come home, but this is the simple fact:
I don't like harems outside of a corruption setting. I don't like it as a fetish. I don't enjoy writing for it. Therefore it's not going to be in the game.
This is true for pregancy, NTR and any other fetish you want to add here.
- May 13, 2018
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Currently unsure what happened with the Public 0.12 update. It was working during the previous version. The revamped space travel makes me unable to traverse the map nor see where to go for missions unlike before.
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Jumping in the harem debate(and getting ready to get shot), why is this a big argument now? In the end Nergal is the one who create the game so its his decision. Sure we can ask, give suggestion and so on but if he dont like it thats it, try imagine game maker creating a game that he hates does it come out great? Probably for some but not many. I for one want the creators to find joy in there work so its spread to the players\watchers\listeners. And thats my opinion, sorry for taking your time and i wish for healthy and safe days. (bowing and stand ready to getting shot)
So Basically, what your saying is, this game is being made with your own tastes in mind,
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I have an issue where helping shelly for the first time, and after the results it freezes on the scene. you can still move in the main menu and so on, but nothing ups progresses forward.
not sure how it happened but i did seem to save in the scene itself with shelly speaking to the protag during cooking?
not sure how it happened but i did seem to save in the scene itself with shelly speaking to the protag during cooking?
Then I would honestly rewrite most of your game and not make the the mc the only male on the ship, or make the characters recruit-able with limits. You created the most stereotypical harem set up possible, to the point people complaining and asking about a harem are going to show up to your patreon and this thread asking about it constantly. You wrote yourself into a corner in a porn game where like I stated before, the male is the only dude on a ship full of women. Its blatantly set up as a harem game even if you don't admit it and no one would expect anything else than that. Its why this topic comes up constantly here, how you designed the game looks harem, feels harem, but then you tell people well no its not, I only wrote in every harem cliche possible into this set up. Not only that, the mc is running around space fucking every woman possible with no one caring. Every woman ever in space is pretty open and not caring sexually, but these women that you're surrounded with? Sorry they're limited on the fucking part, you have to play through this game like 30 times to get those scenes. No one is going to like that or do that, because its just frustrating with your entire set up and game design. It doesn't make sense with how the porn in the game currently plays out or the literal harem set up you wrote.
If this was some other setting, where the mc was just in a town, city/school and all of the girls were around, but the options are like a standard vn and you as a player choose to talk to big titty milf and because of that you never met some other girl. It would make perfect sense, no one would have the expectations of a harem, you wouldn't have to talk about this every five minutes. But it isn't, you wrote a harem porn game and are rejecting the harem part. I should note btw, I don't even know what you mean by I don't like writing a harem, when you can just throw in a harem mode. Where it just cuts out the dialogue where I'm guessing in the future some girl is going to be pissed that the mc fucked some girl on the ship(even though the mc is fucking every female EVER OUTSIDE OF THE SHIP) and doesn't lock a player out of the options of the girls and you wouldn't have to write really anything for it. As i've stated, the game is already writen as one inherently and nothing actually would really need to get added at all for the harem mode, because nothing changes except you wouldn't get locked out of options. Also with you being this against harems, I hope you have no plans on writing 3 ways with any of the girls because that sure as hell makes no sense with what your purposing. I also hope you realize that the girls that supposedly really against idea, wouldn't like you fucking every woman ever, and all of those options should be instantly locked out the moment you're on that path. Which is just going to annoy everyone and make them hate doing that characters path and make them not popular. This makes the constant one off scenes you created practically wasted, since they're going to be not accessible during 90% of the play through of the game. In fact most routes people play, they're not going to be accessible. Because if a girl isn't willing to share you with people she actually likes, why would she be okay random people. That makes no logical sense. You could still have these accessible but the girl breaks up with you, but then you've cheapened the scenes because then people are just going save scum and no will get those scenes in an actual legit play-through.
Oh and you mentioned earlier something about settings that do harems well without corruption. Most japanese harem vns do it fine, or you could just go on amazon and look at the currently booming genre of western harem stories going on right now. Most of those books do harems well, no corruption involved.
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Loving the fact that the artstyle is all curvy and juicy ! <3
But where you truly got me , is when you made the big bad (sort of mean girl ) Lilith's weakness her ass .... now am in love with her content and can't wait to dominate her via anal !
Keep her big juicy fat ASS coming !
Great work !
But where you truly got me , is when you made the big bad (sort of mean girl ) Lilith's weakness her ass .... now am in love with her content and can't wait to dominate her via anal !
Keep her big juicy fat ASS coming !
Great work !
I have a bug in the game when Mia makes you the third analysis after going to the jungle planet.