I doubt a login system will bring in many more patrons. Making the MC less stupid whether in dialogue or character might work or just really hardcore NTR to attract the NTR fans. The game is good enough in images and the story is OK atm so I don't see why receipts would improve with a login system. Although I did pledge for a few months I doubt I'll pledge again for new material. JMO but I wonder.
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The reason for the login system isn't to lure new patrons in. The reason is to avoid players from being deceived by shady website who offer the game for money. Probably not everyone knows that the game is available for free.
Lets wait and see what Lost Raven can do about the "stupid" MC in the revamp version.
It's obviously to lure new patrons, they've been on here before complaining about how they don't want it posted here "too soon" because it inhibits their revenue stream, which I mean fair enough, but don't lie and say it's for any other reason that's really sneaky.
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Why should I lie?? What do I gain from lying?
Out of respect to the people, who support games in general with their money, I think it would be fair to let them enjoy the update first before it gets leaked.
To be honest, I wished more games would have a waiting period of 30 days before non-patrons (including me) are able to play new updates. Without paying supporters there won't be a game in the first place.
You argument that the login system is to lure new patrons is invalid, because as explained the game is and remains for free for non-supporters. If someone can't wait 30 days than it is his own problem for having such little self-control.
Money is always a factor, because all the assets (clothes, props, models etc.), power, new equipment needs to be paid or did you think their are available for free? Because I can tell they are not! If you think an adult game developer earns big bucks with a silly porn game then you are wrong too. There are a few devs out there making big bucks, but those are the 1% with a thick-tight fanbase since day 1. The average game dev will never ever be able to come close to them. Right now the majority of game developers pay everything of their own pockets in hope that one day they gain a few extra bucks out of their games. So, yes, money is an important factor for a dev, but money wasn't the main reason for the new login system.
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Well, let's wait and see if someone can crack it when the time comes.
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Ok, I see from which angle you look at it. And yes, it is a valid point which I haven't considered.
mmh.. yes and no.
Yes: maybe now more people will sign up.
No: no one is forced to sign up or pay anything. All they need is to wait a bit longer as before.
This goes for every dev. If devs would receive a single buck for each download per update high tier patrons wouldn't be needed and devs would have enough money inbetween updates. Even more was what they earn now.
From another game I know estimated +100,000 people actively played it. Based on above idea to "charge" 1 buck per download (without considering exchange rates for foreign currencies) would be a "fair" price for an update after 3 months.
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And I have to tell one BIG change that I think no one paid attention yet. Before, the game was free only till Chapter 4. Then I understand this urge and IF we just added the login system with no FREE content, then yes, it would be to lore more people, but the main point that I think no one here got yet is: YOU CAN PLAY THE GAME WITHOUT ANY LOGIN and FOR FREE downloading from our original repositories...
Our post for the dev update will be unlocked. There is no why lock it anymore.. The only thing that is, to get access to the current month content, then yes, you need to be a backer, otherwise, you just need to wait 30 days and the content will be free...
Basically the time for new content will available on this schedule:
25+ On the release
10+ 7 days after
5+ 14 days
1+ 21 days
FOR FREE 30 days
And yes.. Since we have seen other websites (and a lot) selling not only our game, but a lot of other games, this was the last drop.
Jim and I had a big discussion on how we would do that. Different from other creators that made login system, we will allow people to play it for free, other don't allow.
So basically, for non backers, every month there will be updates! It will just have 30 days delay.
Now, as cold_arctus said: we aren't a charity. I don't work every day on the game for other people pleasure. Jim and I have bills to pay. We need to buy the contents for the game. We improved our render rigs to be able to make more content. So, we need the money too.
When other website sells our content, they do a huge damage on all devs. Legally, is the same as taking a game like Cyberpunk and sell it on your website and even telling that YOU MADE IT, like some mother fuckers are doing.
If I could, I would go after that websites that sell our content and sue them! But we don't have money for that.
That is why I already said here, I don't mind to make the game playable for free, but come on, can't you at least wait a 30 days?
I think it is fair enough...
Our post for the dev update will be unlocked. There is no why lock it anymore.. The only thing that is, to get access to the current month content, then yes, you need to be a backer, otherwise, you just need to wait 30 days and the content will be free...
Basically the time for new content will available on this schedule:
25+ On the release
10+ 7 days after
5+ 14 days
1+ 21 days
FOR FREE 30 days
And yes.. Since we have seen other websites (and a lot) selling not only our game, but a lot of other games, this was the last drop.
Jim and I had a big discussion on how we would do that. Different from other creators that made login system, we will allow people to play it for free, other don't allow.
So basically, for non backers, every month there will be updates! It will just have 30 days delay.
Now, as cold_arctus said: we aren't a charity. I don't work every day on the game for other people pleasure. Jim and I have bills to pay. We need to buy the contents for the game. We improved our render rigs to be able to make more content. So, we need the money too.
When other website sells our content, they do a huge damage on all devs. Legally, is the same as taking a game like Cyberpunk and sell it on your website and even telling that YOU MADE IT, like some mother fuckers are doing.
If I could, I would go after that websites that sell our content and sue them! But we don't have money for that.
That is why I already said here, I don't mind to make the game playable for free, but come on, can't you at least wait a 30 days?
I think it is fair enough...
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Thanks, but you are late.. this has been discussed here for days now.Nice locked behind a paywall
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Here some of the websites if you wanna know
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Same shit
So yes... there are websites selling not only our games but a lot of others.
And there is one in specific (and this is why I HATE RENPY) that the guys modify the game, translate it to Italian I think and sell like if it was his game...
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Same shit
So yes... there are websites selling not only our games but a lot of others.
And there is one in specific (and this is why I HATE RENPY) that the guys modify the game, translate it to Italian I think and sell like if it was his game...
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And I know that there is no way to make the game a 100% crack prof. No matter in which platform or language you do. Some times can be very difficult to crack it, but it can always be done...
Unless the game runs 100% online and all actions on server side.
Unless the game runs 100% online and all actions on server side.
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don't think there is that.
well palmer succeeded with daughter for dessert, effort it'd have taken to crack patreon version wouldn't been worth it since free version would been out by then (after cracking done) and result would been that he tightens protection again.
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I can tell for sure that, if it has a 100% safe way to protect any software, it would being used by all industry.
Like I said, you can make it so difficult to crack it that it don't worth the time to do it... So that is why some games aren't cracked.
Even PS3 and PS4 that was said "impossible to crack" at some point they did it. Took a huge time, but they managed to do it..
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I hate to say this but truth be told i know that after all that hard work of the devs putting into building those every pixels and seeing them getting pirated and sold in other sites without their consent is not very pleasant and it does creates a uncertainity for further updates or development of the game but in Adult game industry it is rather different 90% percent of patrons the devs get are from people playing first or the second or whatever the primary version they play first and if they see it fits their taste they becomes patron's for its further development its how the advertisement and publicity works not every consumer goes through the adult section's of patreons site to find what they like and the fact the fetishes most of the pervs like us craves are seemed not fitted for their taste and thanks to f95 which seems the main benefactor of massing up those patrons atleast that i know of and i know there are others but i doubt that there are any active community like it exists but it always comes to the point what the dev seems fit and as they are one creating the games whatever it shall be i will respect that and one last thing just an opinion i ask the dev to keep an eye on the chart's of their patrons statistics coz i dont think introducing the locking system will show any postive gradient but an rather slow decline or an stable value and numbers my friend never lie keep in mind that its just an simple observation and nothing else.