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Maybe someone need to explain the Terms "Neotorare" and "Cuckold" again for me. Like in the "NTR for Dummies" fashion...

Because I thought, it means that it is no problem for me if others have sex with "my" girls. But this game teach me, that it means that I am a weepy little boy that never get anything while everyone else have the fun. Taking commands from everyone, being the doormat for everyone etc.

So instead of watching my best friend pounding my girl before I got my turn.. the game forces me into a deep wimpy submassive role with nothing but tears and wailing. And make me watch scenes where I am not physically present.


Is that the correct translation? Or is it just this game? (btw.. this is a serious question. I realy want to know it.)
I think you're more interested in Free-Use/Freeuse.
NTR kind of assumes a caring relationship between the PC and the girl and then she goes off and gets fucked by some other dude, without the PC's consent.
IMO, it sucks.
It seems like you're more interested in sharing a slut that you don't have any particular feelings for, which'd be more freeuse or the whole swinging scene. Or perhaps BDSM for sharing a pet.
NTR though, the PC pretty much has to be a sissy bitch.
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I doubt a login system will bring in many more patrons. Making the MC less stupid whether in dialogue or character might work or just really hardcore NTR to attract the NTR fans. The game is good enough in images and the story is OK atm so I don't see why receipts would improve with a login system. Although I did pledge for a few months I doubt I'll pledge again for new material. JMO but I wonder.
 
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I doubt a login system will bring in many more patrons. Making the MC less stupid whether in dialogue or character might work or just really hardcore NTR to attract the NTR fans. The game is good enough in images and the story is OK atm so I don't see why receipts would improve with a login system. Although I did pledge for a few months I doubt I'll pledge again for new material. JMO but I wonder.
The reason for the login system isn't to lure new patrons in. The reason is to avoid players from being deceived by shady website who offer the game for money. Probably not everyone knows that the game is available for free.

Lets wait and see what Lost Raven can do about the "stupid" MC in the revamp version.
 
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The reason for the login system isn't to lure new patrons in. The reason is to avoid players from being deceived by shady website who offer the game for money. Probably not everyone knows that the game is available for free.

Lets wait and see what Lost Raven can do about the "stupid" MC in the revamp version.
It's obviously to lure new patrons, they've been on here before complaining about how they don't want it posted here "too soon" because it inhibits their revenue stream, which I mean fair enough, but don't lie and say it's for any other reason that's really sneaky.
 

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but don't lie and say it's for any other reason that's really sneaky.
Why should I lie?? What do I gain from lying?

Out of respect to the people, who support games in general with their money, I think it would be fair to let them enjoy the update first before it gets leaked.

To be honest, I wished more games would have a waiting period of 30 days before non-patrons (including me) are able to play new updates. Without paying supporters there won't be a game in the first place.

You argument that the login system is to lure new patrons is invalid, because as explained the game is and remains for free for non-supporters. If someone can't wait 30 days than it is his own problem for having such little self-control.

Money is always a factor, because all the assets (clothes, props, models etc.), power, new equipment needs to be paid or did you think their are available for free? Because I can tell they are not! If you think an adult game developer earns big bucks with a silly porn game then you are wrong too. There are a few devs out there making big bucks, but those are the 1% with a thick-tight fanbase since day 1. The average game dev will never ever be able to come close to them. Right now the majority of game developers pay everything of their own pockets in hope that one day they gain a few extra bucks out of their games. So, yes, money is an important factor for a dev, but money wasn't the main reason for the new login system.
 

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But the fact that the login system is designed to prevent others selling their game is not preservation but hope that those who buy elsewhere will now be forced to buy from the source.
Ok, I see from which angle you look at it. And yes, it is a valid point which I haven't considered.
now be forced to buy from the source.
mmh.. yes and no.
Yes: maybe now more people will sign up.
No: no one is forced to sign up or pay anything. All they need is to wait a bit longer as before.
Rocco complained that had the number of downloads on SVS been NG paying patrons their income would have been much higher.
This goes for every dev. If devs would receive a single buck for each download per update high tier patrons wouldn't be needed and devs would have enough money inbetween updates. Even more was what they earn now.

From another game I know estimated +100,000 people actively played it. Based on above idea to "charge" 1 buck per download (without considering exchange rates for foreign currencies) would be a "fair" price for an update after 3 months.
 

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And I have to tell one BIG change that I think no one paid attention yet. Before, the game was free only till Chapter 4. Then I understand this urge and IF we just added the login system with no FREE content, then yes, it would be to lore more people, but the main point that I think no one here got yet is: YOU CAN PLAY THE GAME WITHOUT ANY LOGIN and FOR FREE downloading from our original repositories...

Our post for the dev update will be unlocked. There is no why lock it anymore.. The only thing that is, to get access to the current month content, then yes, you need to be a backer, otherwise, you just need to wait 30 days and the content will be free...

Basically the time for new content will available on this schedule:

25+ On the release
10+ 7 days after
5+ 14 days
1+ 21 days
FOR FREE 30 days

And yes.. Since we have seen other websites (and a lot) selling not only our game, but a lot of other games, this was the last drop.

Jim and I had a big discussion on how we would do that. Different from other creators that made login system, we will allow people to play it for free, other don't allow.

So basically, for non backers, every month there will be updates! It will just have 30 days delay.

Now, as cold_arctus said: we aren't a charity. I don't work every day on the game for other people pleasure. Jim and I have bills to pay. We need to buy the contents for the game. We improved our render rigs to be able to make more content. So, we need the money too.

When other website sells our content, they do a huge damage on all devs. Legally, is the same as taking a game like Cyberpunk and sell it on your website and even telling that YOU MADE IT, like some mother fuckers are doing.

If I could, I would go after that websites that sell our content and sue them! But we don't have money for that.

That is why I already said here, I don't mind to make the game playable for free, but come on, can't you at least wait a 30 days?

I think it is fair enough...
 

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Here some of the websites if you wanna know


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You can only download if you have premium on filesmonster



Same shit

So yes... there are websites selling not only our games but a lot of others.

And there is one in specific (and this is why I HATE RENPY) that the guys modify the game, translate it to Italian I think and sell like if it was his game...
 
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you can get the game free (same as SvS) 12 hour download

Linked to Files monster
You need Premium membership to download files larger than 1.0 GB.
To avoid limitations buy Premium account

Copies Links from F95
 
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And I know that there is no way to make the game a 100% crack prof. No matter in which platform or language you do. Some times can be very difficult to crack it, but it can always be done...

Unless the game runs 100% online and all actions on server side.
 

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( pc ) Does anybody know where I can play the new version without downloading or buying the game ?
don't think there is that.

And I know that there is no way to make the game a 100% crack prof. No matter in which platform or language you do. Some times can be very difficult to crack it, but it can always be done...

Unless the game runs 100% online and all actions on server side.
well palmer succeeded with daughter for dessert, effort it'd have taken to crack patreon version wouldn't been worth it since free version would been out by then (after cracking done) and result would been that he tightens protection again.
 

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don't think there is that.



well palmer succeeded with daughter for dessert, effort it'd have taken to crack patreon version wouldn't been worth it since free version would been out by then (after cracking done) and result would been that he tightens protection again.

I can tell for sure that, if it has a 100% safe way to protect any software, it would being used by all industry.

Like I said, you can make it so difficult to crack it that it don't worth the time to do it... So that is why some games aren't cracked.

Even PS3 and PS4 that was said "impossible to crack" at some point they did it. Took a huge time, but they managed to do it..
 
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