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For the record. That was NOT their original set-up.przewodo
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On the developers only section of F95, the sites were bought en-mass to our attention by Sam who can fully confirm they were charging to play games they'd stolen (And yes, they had a lot of fans).
They were stealing the latest version of the games, scrubbing them of any links etc that the games were ours, and then selling them behind their own locked paywall as if they owned the IPs, they did this across the board.
At the time, us and dozens of other devs were messaging Patreon non-stop to have the sites removed on grounds of copyright, but Patreon were extremely reluctant to act unless we were willing to go fully forward with DMCA action and reveal our IRL names in a formal complaint to the people who'd no doubt threaten to dox us if we did.
In the meanwhile, Jim and Rocco felt they needed to develop a system (with great reluctance, we did consider previously taking things legally to them via lawyers and such) to prevent predatory behaviour such as this.
Tolerating games being posted here for free is one thing, tolerating a bunch of hucksters trying to steal it and peddle it with a new price tag is not something we were happy with.
They tried very much to present themselves as a legitimate 'devs' and promised to 'negotiate' with us (what they wanted was to have exclusivity or something to put our games permanently behind their paywalls).
THEN: In the twilight hour, Patreon decided to act with the new security system Rocco had made was nearly complete. They didn't TELL anyone they had acted, but the site were temporarily removed, and from what I can tell, have returned in this new form you see today.
Some proof the events that transpired.
Me: ranting on their youtube page
The Usual patreon reply DOZENS of us received
Unfortunately, none of us fully have much faith due to past experience. A large developer posted a long chain mail conversation arguing with Patreon staff, but patreon were only ever interested in removing the individual game the person was complaining about (should they be willing to go DMCA - an unavailable option for most devs) when what we really wanted was the site nuked.
That's it, that's the full story for the record.
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