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VN Ren'Py Onhold The Spice Pirate [Prologue: Remastered] [Tak Mycket]

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Many corporations are "clean" and "pure", at the very least in public perception.
Disney, Tesla, Amazon, ...
If they have products or advertisements in their portfolio that are not that the risk of loosing the business with other "clean" and "pure" partners is high.
And that is where the money is.

If a company already is "progressive" or "open minded" the same does not apply, because the "clean" and "pure" business partners are not present in the first place.

In the business world PR is much, public perception is more.
For instance McDonalds will not like it if the website they are advertising at suddenly also has an advertisement for pornhub.
In that example they 100% would declare the contract broken and pull their advertisements.
Simply because then they fear the potential future customers are ... less open to spend money.

To not risk that many big corporations are removing anything and everything that is controversial or "worse".
If a corporation already is "open minded" and has no qualms staying so they don't care.

That behavior is not really country specific that much.
Some corporations located in different cultures may behave slightly different, but if they are on the stock market i.e. internationally traded it is largely the same.
In my point of view, the only hope for the good of porn (more freedom of creation for developers) would be for Patreon to no longer support pornography, because then developers would look for other support like SubscribeStar
 

TakMycket

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I don't mean to be rude, but I felt like I was playing a parody game. The CG is so oddly zoomed in and the characters faces are twitching all over the place. And so much dialogue, not enough action.
Thank you for giving feedback. The zoomed in style is just my style of rendering. I can see why some people won't like it - as it's probably not for everyone. In The Spice Pirate I have made every render unique, so every time a character talks it moves in some form. This has most likely caused the twitching your talking about. In the earlier scenes I used more head movement to try and give the allusion the character is talking... however in later scenes I found myself gravitating towards changing the facial expression more and leaving the head still. I was wondering if you've played the entire release... do you prefer the style of the later scenes? Or perhaps all scenes seem twitchy to you...?

I went thru all the posts in this thread, as few as there are, fully expecting to see some Dune reference. ("Spice") In a way, I'm kinda disappointed there wasn't. Tossing on the 'ignore' list, not for the parody/lack of one, but just the comments I read told me it's not my cup of tea.
Dune is a great novel (and an okay movie...). Unfortunately the only dune reference is the name of the magical essence that is called Spice. There are other references to another movie (during the opening scene), but apart from that no movie/book references in The Spice Pirate.

The story itself is actually pretty good, but I can't get past all the weird facial expressions.

It's like all goofy smiles and O faces when they talk. :ROFLMAO:
Thank you for the feedback :). I can see what you mean by the goofy smiles and O faces. I guess that's something I'll have to focus on improving for future Chapters. If you don't mind me asking a question...

Goofy faces aside, did you like the fact that while speaking the characters faces moved? Having the characters faces move between dialogue lines rather than having one render is something that I really want to focus on... so if I improved the facial expressions do you think that feature works well?
 
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Thank you for giving feedback. The zoomed in style is just my style of rendering. I can see why some people won't like it - as it's probably not for everyone. In The Spice Pirate I have made every render unique, so every time a character talks it moves in some form. This has most likely caused the twitching your talking about. In the earlier scenes I used more head movement to try and give the allusion the character is talking... however in later scenes I found myself gravitating towards changing the facial expression more and leaving the head still. I was wondering if you've played the entire release... do you prefer the style of the later scenes? Or perhaps all scenes seem twitchy to you...?


Dune is a great novel (and an okay movie...). Unfortunately the only dune reference is the name of the magical essence that is called Spice. There are other references to another movie (during the opening scene), but apart from that no movie/book references in The Spice Pirate.


Thank you for the feedback :). I can see what you mean by the goofy smiles and O faces. I guess that's something I'll have to focus on improving for future Chapters. If you don't mind me asking a question...

Goofy faces aside, did you like the fact that while speaking the characters faces moved? Having the characters faces move between dialogue lines rather than having one render is something that I really want to focus on... so if I improved the facial expressions do you think that feature works well?
A little would be ok, but they didn't need to move so much. Sometimes it was actually distracting. It also seems like a waste of your time because it's really unnecessary.
 

Kuokaman

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The pictures are too dark, it's unpleasant to watch. And there are only 2 choices for not so short chapter.
 

TakMycket

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The pictures are too dark, it's unpleasant to watch. And there are only 2 choices for not so short chapter.
I've already gotten feedback that a particular scene (the night scene between Blanche and MC) is a bit too dark. Are you referring to that scene or just in general?

And yes... it only has 2 choices at the moment. This is partly due to the fact Chapter One sets up the story for later Chapters and thus was fairly linear. Future chapters will have more branching and more choices.
 

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So manwhore in this context means you will pursue many girls but get no ending with any of them?
 

TakMycket

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So manwhore in this context means you will pursue many girls but get no ending with any of them?
Yes and no. The manwhore path means you will be sleeping around with all of the Side Girls (there will be a lot of Side Girls) as well as a few LIs. Not all of the LIs will participate in the manwhore path, as it wouldn't suit their personality or the aspirations.

Also, in some of the LI endings, you also will have a choice to have a few "mistresses" (all of those mistresses will be side girls) as well. However, once again, that depends which LI you're pursuing.

So yes - you can pursue many girls. You just won't be able to pursue all of them at the same time.

Hopefully this answers your question... if you want more clarification then just ask and I'll go into more depth.
 

SpecterX

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Yes and no. The manwhore path means you will be sleeping around with all of the Side Girls (there will be a lot of Side Girls) as well as a few LIs. Not all of the LIs will participate in the manwhore path, as it wouldn't suit their personality or the aspirations.

Also, in some of the LI endings, you also will have a choice to have a few "mistresses" (all of those mistresses will be side girls) as well. However, once again, that depends which LI you're pursuing.

So yes - you can pursue many girls. You just won't be able to pursue all of them at the same time.

Hopefully this answers your question... if you want more clarification then just ask and I'll go into more depth.
It's good, everything is clear, and my interest in this game has gone up.
I'll download it later and good luck with the development.
 

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having played it, my two cents. Not the biggest fan of the models and the closeup renders, and as others said it's a bit overkill with the head movement on the conversations. You could have fit more story in the update if all those renders weren't wasted. Looking at other AVNs, you can make a conversation still engaging without having to do a slightly altered render every other sentence. Also somewhat off putting for me is that in most conversations the view alternates between the speakers, and they are rarely shown together on a render. That being sad I respect the dev's artistic choice to do it his way, but the reception may not be that good.

Otherwise I enjoyed the story, I see potential in it, plus the pirate genre is not over saturated so that's good (assuming that will be the main point of the game, still unclear if MC and co will be part of that world or that there are just some pirates in the game)

I didn't mind the lack of animations too much, in some games they are done badly, I'd rather have the static renders than awful animations. Over time this can be fixed as the dev gains experience.
 
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having played it, my two cents. Not the biggest fan of the models and the closeup renders, and as others said it's a bit overkill with the head movement on the conversations. You could have fit more story in the update if all those renders weren't wasted. Looking at other AVNs, you can make a conversation still engaging without having to do a slightly altered render every other sentence. Also somewhat off putting for me is that in most conversations the view alternates between the speakers, and they are rarely shown together on a render. That being sad I respect the dev's artistic choice to do it his way, but the reception may not be that good.

Otherwise I enjoyed the story, I see potential in it, plus the pirate genre is not over saturated so that's good (assuming that will be the main point of the game, still unclear if MC and co will be part of that world or that there are just some pirates in the game)

I didn't mind the lack of animations too much, in some games they are done badly, I'd rather have the static renders than awful animations. Over time this can be fixed as the dev gains experience.
That bothered you? Guess you never played Food Truck Story. Holy fuck! Was the renders a mess. MC must've had some mental disorder as he couldn't look at anyone when talkin. Wall, ceiling, floor, feet, door, anywhere except the face.
 

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That bothered you? Guess you never played Food Truck Story. Holy fuck! Was the renders a mess. MC must've had some mental disorder as he couldn't look at anyone when talkin. Wall, ceiling, floor, feet, door, anywhere except the face.
I played it, but I don't remember that being a big issue, maybe I just didn't play too much attention
 

TakMycket

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having played it, my two cents. Not the biggest fan of the models and the closeup renders, and as others said it's a bit overkill with the head movement on the conversations. You could have fit more story in the update if all those renders weren't wasted. Looking at other AVNs, you can make a conversation still engaging without having to do a slightly altered render every other sentence. Also somewhat off putting for me is that in most conversations the view alternates between the speakers, and they are rarely shown together on a render. That being sad I respect the dev's artistic choice to do it his way, but the reception may not be that good.

Otherwise I enjoyed the story, I see potential in it, plus the pirate genre is not over saturated so that's good (assuming that will be the main point of the game, still unclear if MC and co will be part of that world or that there are just some pirates in the game)

I didn't mind the lack of animations too much, in some games they are done badly, I'd rather have the static renders than awful animations. Over time this can be fixed as the dev gains experience.
First of all I want to thank you for providing me with feedback. I do want to have a new render every time a character speaks... however player feedback has shown me that I may have gone a bit overboard with this. I'll try and make the changes in the renders more subtle for future content.

Showing the two characters together occasionally during conversation is a great suggestion, and I'll definitely try and do that more to make the switching between characters less disorientating for the reader.

I can also confirm the MC and co will become pirates... in fact, Chapter 2 will be all about them becoming embroiled in piracy.

With regards to animations - you are absolutely correct. I too subscribe to the idea that static renders are better than awful animations. In future chapters I'll slowly start implementing more animations into The Spice Pirate as my Daz skills improve.
 

Brannon

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Does the game have 6 LIs without a harem ending? I think I'll abandon ship then Lol. Anyway GL for your game.
Yes and no. The manwhore path means you will be sleeping around with all of the Side Girls (there will be a lot of Side Girls) as well as a few LIs. Not all of the LIs will participate in the manwhore path, as it wouldn't suit their personality or the aspirations.

Also, in some of the LI endings, you also will have a choice to have a few "mistresses" (all of those mistresses will be side girls) as well. However, once again, that depends which LI you're pursuing.

So yes - you can pursue many girls. You just won't be able to pursue all of them at the same time.

Hopefully this answers your question... if you want more clarification then just ask and I'll go into more depth.
To me that sounds like "Harem (Not So) Lite" is planned.
 

Kuokaman

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I've already gotten feedback that a particular scene (the night scene between Blanche and MC) is a bit too dark. Are you referring to that scene or just in general?

And yes... it only has 2 choices at the moment. This is partly due to the fact Chapter One sets up the story for later Chapters and thus was fairly linear. Future chapters will have more branching and more choices.
Almost all scenes inside and the ones outside at night are too dark for me. Regarding the choices - that's good news.
 

Papy.ion6984

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Salut!
Mon anglais n'est pas très bon et je ne ne comprend pas ce que signifie de "LI".
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Hi !
My English is not very good and I don't understand what "LI" means.
 
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