- Thread starter Muff Diver
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- Feb 19, 2018
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Playing through this, figured I'd leave a few comments.
Biggest annoyances;
The "by version" structure has become largely useless and an impediment at this point. It would probably work much better arranged by character, though that would definitely be a lot of work.
One bug I've seen: Color settings for Julia's outfits do not seem to be maintained when she wears them... definitely with latex outfits, possibly with others as well.
Overall, the game is fairly entertaining, with some minor annoyances.
Biggest annoyances;
- Randomness - especially for "chained" events. For example getting Rachel to answer the door (random #1), then random of whether "Billy will be home any moment" or not (or is that day-based? hard to tell).
- Multi-hotspot annoyance - depending on where camera is aimed, hotspots (go elsewhere, doors, beds, exit/save menu) can overlap, and a single click can register to multiple hotspots. Generally, menus should always take precedence.
- Task list is very sparse, and some inter-character dependencies don't make any sense until you eventually uncover the "solution" to progress. Needing to advance kendra in order to get the medicine from hospital for the rebecca quest about husband's infidelity, for example. You can get the task to get the medicine long before you ever learn of kendra's existence. This makes the walkthrough... pretty much required.
- Some of the "walking by the house" events - particularly kira's mom walking by *constantly*... leading to several screens to click through... long before it's possible to meet her or do anything with her, every other time I go home.
The "by version" structure has become largely useless and an impediment at this point. It would probably work much better arranged by character, though that would definitely be a lot of work.
One bug I've seen: Color settings for Julia's outfits do not seem to be maintained when she wears them... definitely with latex outfits, possibly with others as well.
Overall, the game is fairly entertaining, with some minor annoyances.
- Dec 16, 2017
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No naked daily option for Julia up to this date, however this outfit is very close to nude. And Janice has just returned from a long winter vacation in northern Finland.
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So, annoyed by the "by version" linear arrangement of the current walkthrough, I wrote a quick-n-dirty perl script to rearrange it into by-character paths. The result is not perfect, but it's helpful to anyone looking to follow an individual characters path, and can identify most of the "corner case" issues needed to fully rearrange the walkthrough. This amounts to a vastly reduced amount of work over rewriting the walkthrough with no automation.
PLEASE do not ask me about how to run perl if you are not either the walkthrough maintainer or intending to fully "fix up" the walkthrough into by-character paths and maintain it. I installed cygwin for windows and ran perl on the existing walkthrough through that. The only modification I made prior to using my script was to remove the "(9) Walkthrough" entry under the "Content" heading.
There are several "DEBUG_*" variables at the beginning of the script. They are intended to identify steps which aren't easily categorized into the "path" for a single character. In general, I recommend setting only ONE of the debug values to 1 at a time, leaving all others at 0. Here's current counts of each type of corner case; these are not mutually exclusive:
MULTIMATCH - more than one character matched - count 181
NOMATCH - no direct character match (currently assigned to any characters matched in prior step) - count 65
NOMATCH_MULTI - no direct match, and prior step matched multiple characters - count 11
NOMATCH_NONE - no direct match, and prior step did not match any characters either - count 12
Last note, I am preserving the existing step numbers, so each character "path" skips around. Renumbering steps is easy, and if you're a maintainer, you can ask me about adding automatic renumbering.
And with that being said, here is the script I used to transform the walkthrough, and it's result.
PLEASE do not ask me about how to run perl if you are not either the walkthrough maintainer or intending to fully "fix up" the walkthrough into by-character paths and maintain it. I installed cygwin for windows and ran perl on the existing walkthrough through that. The only modification I made prior to using my script was to remove the "(9) Walkthrough" entry under the "Content" heading.
There are several "DEBUG_*" variables at the beginning of the script. They are intended to identify steps which aren't easily categorized into the "path" for a single character. In general, I recommend setting only ONE of the debug values to 1 at a time, leaving all others at 0. Here's current counts of each type of corner case; these are not mutually exclusive:
MULTIMATCH - more than one character matched - count 181
NOMATCH - no direct character match (currently assigned to any characters matched in prior step) - count 65
NOMATCH_MULTI - no direct match, and prior step matched multiple characters - count 11
NOMATCH_NONE - no direct match, and prior step did not match any characters either - count 12
Last note, I am preserving the existing step numbers, so each character "path" skips around. Renumbering steps is easy, and if you're a maintainer, you can ask me about adding automatic renumbering.
And with that being said, here is the script I used to transform the walkthrough, and it's result.
I found the fix to this. I went into regedit and modified the bdsm setting to 1 instead of 0, it seems i missed a step with BDSM some time earlier in the game, maybe it will help someone else also
- Jul 30, 2017
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i wish this game could let you make your own story and setup your own scenarios, that would be amazing. then imagine being able to share these stories & scenarios, it would create a huge amount of content.
can anyone suggest this idea to kst?
can anyone suggest this idea to kst?
Can i ask one thing? In the known issues it say "Please keep in mind this is a real-time 3D it will need a decent GPU. On low-end machines it may work slowly or doesn't work at all."
These problems are related to the game becoming bigger and bigger? Or cause something technical changed in last versions?
I ask that cause until version 18 i had non problem, and now i noted long loading time everytime i change room (only change room and new day; the scenes work properly)
These problems are related to the game becoming bigger and bigger? Or cause something technical changed in last versions?
I ask that cause until version 18 i had non problem, and now i noted long loading time everytime i change room (only change room and new day; the scenes work properly)
That would require rebuilding the entire game, far more than spending time to make an Android version.
More to the point, it wouldn't be The Twist anymore, it would basically be a knock-off of 3D Sexvilla.
I have problems with:
534. Go to the new house (at the bottom on the right of the map) at 22:00. Jason takes some pictures of the unknown woman.
no one shown up and cannot made pictures
534. Go to the new house (at the bottom on the right of the map) at 22:00. Jason takes some pictures of the unknown woman.
no one shown up and cannot made pictures
462. (John): Make sure your energy is 85+. Go to the living room at 17:00 or later. John says goodbye. Janice and Jason rush to the bedroom. You have two options:
a) "Vaginal": Jason fucks Janice's pussy. Now you have two options:
a) "Fuck her ass": Jason fucks Janice's ass. John comes back and enters the bedroom looking for his airline tickets. He catches Janice and Jason having sex.
After a hefty conversation, you have two options:
a) "Let him stay": John stays at home for 7 days and goes away for 14 days just like before.
From now on, when John is at home, he no longer bothers by day and sleeps on the couch in the living room at night.
During this time the scenes at night in the living room are locked.
b) "Kick him out": Janice and Jason kick John out and he leaves permanently. John leaves the car in the driveway.
At the end of the scene Jason fucks Janice's pussy and cums in her.
I don't get the option to kick him out, i just change from pussy to anal until i get bored and cum and i always get the part that makes me hide, any idea what i have to do more ? i got the energy and over 500 score
a) "Vaginal": Jason fucks Janice's pussy. Now you have two options:
a) "Fuck her ass": Jason fucks Janice's ass. John comes back and enters the bedroom looking for his airline tickets. He catches Janice and Jason having sex.
After a hefty conversation, you have two options:
a) "Let him stay": John stays at home for 7 days and goes away for 14 days just like before.
From now on, when John is at home, he no longer bothers by day and sleeps on the couch in the living room at night.
During this time the scenes at night in the living room are locked.
b) "Kick him out": Janice and Jason kick John out and he leaves permanently. John leaves the car in the driveway.
At the end of the scene Jason fucks Janice's pussy and cums in her.
I don't get the option to kick him out, i just change from pussy to anal until i get bored and cum and i always get the part that makes me hide, any idea what i have to do more ? i got the energy and over 500 score
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it's something he could work on after the twist is done.
Think about it, once the twist is done, what can he do with all the code he already wrote? He could turn it into a create your own adult story using the existing characters & animation.
You do realise people can already do that by learning to develop with Unity?
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yes, technically someone could learn unity, write their own framework and then use his assets, animations & characters, but you'd have to get kst's permission then possibly do a revenue split? that's fine with me too.
Why would you want to profit from it?
Also, why use the same assets as KST?
If it's to literally "make your own stories" within the setting of The Twist... That's typically the territory of modding and fan fiction, and this ain't no Elder Scrolls game. Less bugs in every release of the game combined, than in a single TES game.
Joking aside, if you want to make your own stories in the same setting as this game, you (and/or anyone else who wants to) should be he ones to put in the effort to create the content, not KST creating a tool-set for you to use. It's not like Neverwinter Nights the Aurora Tools.
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do you like the existing content in the twist? if you answer yes, then imagine 100's of people creating more of that same content. you're basically saying you don't want massive amounts of content similar to what's already in game. if he invests into a system where people can make their own content and share it, it will provide even more content than what kst currently provides.
he can start simple, just let people add a single quest to the existing story then share it, that alone would add tons of new content.
you seem to think i want him to stop working on the game and just make the toolset, no .. once he's finished with the twist, what is he going to do then? what if he invested into a toolset that allows massive amounts of content to be created? think of the possibilities.
now imagine people use his toolset then create their own patreon, then kst makes a tos that says if you use his toolset and make your own patreon, then you have to give him like 25% of your patreon's profits. kst could possibly bring in an extra $2500.00 or $5000.00 a month from that, then use that to hire more help to make The Twist II or something with even more content he provides now.
Windows defender questioned me running the .exe in the .31 version but not previous versions. Anyone got any ideas why?