VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Way [v0.37 Bugfix 2] [Zee95]

[there]

OK, here is what I am going to say. I know people hate it when it is said in such forums but seriously, any games with pixel hunting or unknown choices like clicking on the knee to save the sister needs to be told to us in a walkthrough. It is otherwise very hard to know what to do. I did not know there were other scenes until I extracted the game and checked the available images.

An average player does not and should not need to go though this if you want the audience to experience the full game.

 

[Deleted member 167032]

I have to disagree with you.

Personally i do not like WT as it detracts the player from the game experience. You should play it and whatever your decisions are, they should stay like that. Good or bad. Retry if you have to.

I found the Monique scenes very good, I am glad i did not need a WT for that. It ended in a sad and somewhat good note. Let's hope we get to see her again.

This weekend i played Depraved Awakening, Dual Family and started up again The Way after a hiatus. So for me it was a pretty sad emotionally challenging game weekend as all these games made me depressed. I would not have it any other way.

As devs we write our game according to our vision and what's in our hearts and minds. If you stuck on what to do next in a game, get onto F95 do a search first and if you cannot find the answer pop in a question. That should be your only WT you use. Experience a game as it was intended. Just my opinion on it.

Well done dev.

OK, here is what I am going to say. I know people hate it when it is said in such forums but seriously, any games with pixel hunting or unknown choices like clicking on the knee to save the sister needs to be told to us in a walkthrough. It is otherwise very hard to know what to do. I did not know there were other scenes until I extracted the game and checked the available images.

An average player does not and should not need to go though this if you want the audience to experience the full game.

 

[Nerttu]

I have to disagree with you.

Personally i do not like WT as it detracts the player from the game experience. You should play it and whatever your decisions are, they should stay like that. Good or bad. Retry if you have to.

I found the Monique scenes very good, I am glad i did not need a WT for that. It ended in a sad and somewhat good note. Let's hope we get to see her again.

This weekend i played Depraved Awakening, Dual Family and started up again The Way after a hiatus. So for me it was a pretty sad emotionally challenging game weekend as all these games made me depressed. I would not have it any other way.

As devs we write our game according to our vision and what's in our hearts and minds. If you stuck on what to do next in a game, get onto F95 do a search first and if you cannot find the answer pop in a question. That should be your only WT you use. Experience a game as it was intended. Just my opinion on it.

Well done dev.

I agree with you !!! These games are NOT so difficult or hard to play, and you don`t have to be a rocket scientist to play these games (hover across the screen and click). IMHO !!

 

[frezenex]

why you need walkthrough?
stuck somewhere?

I sure am, stuck on the first day because i cannot find his game nor the key... i've tried to click everywhere but still cannot find it. It would be a big help if there was a walkthrough.

 

[Zee95]

I sure am, stuck on the first day because i cannot find his game nor the key... i've tried to click everywhere but still cannot find it. It would be a big help if there was a walkthrough.

Look at the game folder, there is subfolder called "where is the key".

 

[Eerie Entity]

I have to disagree with you.

Personally i do not like WT as it detracts the player from the game experience. You should play it and whatever your decisions are, they should stay like that. Good or bad. Retry if you have to.

I found the Monique scenes very good, I am glad i did not need a WT for that. It ended in a sad and somewhat good note. Let's hope we get to see her again.

This weekend i played Depraved Awakening, Dual Family and started up again The Way after a hiatus. So for me it was a pretty sad emotionally challenging game weekend as all these games made me depressed. I would not have it any other way.

As devs we write our game according to our vision and what's in our hearts and minds. If you stuck on what to do next in a game, get onto F95 do a search first and if you cannot find the answer pop in a question. That should be your only WT you use. Experience a game as it was intended. Just my opinion on it.

Well done dev.

I agree with all that completely. There are several VN's and games out there with stories I can more or less relate to, having been through a lot of similar times in my life, and playing these stories more often than not makes me feel a certain type of way, and also if the characters are written well, I'll feel a certain type of way about them too, and all this helps me connect with the big picture, and isn't that the whole point? I think a good story manages to do just that and should do just that. And even though these are adult games and probably majority of the people are here because of that, the sexual content is still but only secondary thing to me, I primarily play these because of the stories, and in example @Zee95 here has managed to make a good one. I totally understood and even felt what the MC was going through, having been there myself, more times than I'd like to admit, haha, and it was indeed depressing, basically reliving my own past experiences while being there as the MC is struggling with his own loss and pain.

It's the exact same thing with Dual Family, that story (apart from the incest of course) hits home pretty hard, I'm also from a broken home, as are millions of other people, every day there is someone out there going through it, so it is in that matter a rather realistic story, depressing story at that.

Depraved Awakening is one of my all-time favorites, the entire story is so beautifully structured and written, with great variety depending on your own choices. It's an absolutely awesome noir crime thriller with lots of drama with several absolutely amazing characters, and I absolutely understand the dynamics between MC and Carli and I find their love and relationship a beautiful thing, in the middle of all the darkness, violence, uncertainty, constant threat and death around them, they found each other, they found love in each other in the middle of all that, a shimmer of hope (that's of course if one chose to play the Carli route, haha). But the story definitely makes me feel all kinds of things, from good to bad, which again is something a good story does

I also agree that devs really should stick to their own vision, stay true to themselves, especially because you can NEVER please everybody, but if you're pleased and happy with your own work and take pride in it, others will see that and will respect and appreciate the work and effort. So many devs unfortunately let their supporters dictate the course of their game/story, one big example of that is V3X, that guy had a tremendous amount of potential, really talented, but sadly we all know what happened there, which is a damn shame. :/

 

[Deleted member 167032]

Well fck said.... I spoke to Zee jsut now on discord and he's cool dude. Yes of late more and more games are getting closer to reality than just straight up porn fest.

As for Depraved, I am going Carli route myself but must say although incest like Judy also... haven't decided on that yet.
The Stella scene was just so incredible and well made... Sad and happy.

EDIT: Here's the thing, I can watch most movies even TV series and not feel much for a character that dies or loses a girl/ partner but play a VN and it kinda hits harder...

I agree with all that completely. There are several VN's and games out there with stories I can more or less relate to, having been through a lot of similar times in my life, and playing these stories more often than not makes me feel a certain type of way, and also if the characters are written well, I'll feel a certain type of way about them too, and all this helps me connect with the big picture, and isn't that the whole point? I think a good story manages to do just that and should do just that. And even though these are adult games and probably majority of the people are here because of that, the sexual content is still but only secondary thing to me, I primarily play these because of the stories, and in example @Zee95 here has managed to make a good one. I totally understood and even felt what the MC was going through, having been there myself, more times than I'd like to admit, haha, and it was indeed depressing, basically reliving my own past experiences while being there as the MC is struggling with his own loss and pain.

It's the exact same thing with Dual Family, that story (apart from the incest of course) hits home pretty hard, I'm also from a broken home, as are millions of other people, every day there is someone out there going through it, so it is in that matter a rather realistic story, depressing story at that.

Depraved Awakening is one of my all-time favorites, the entire story is so beautifully structured and written, with great variety depending on your own choices. It's an absolutely awesome noir crime thriller with lots of drama with several absolutely amazing characters, and I absolutely understand the dynamics between MC and Carli and I find their love and relationship a beautiful thing, in the middle of all the darkness, violence, uncertainty, constant threat and death around them, they found each other, they found love in each other in the middle of all that, a shimmer of hope (that's of course if one chose to play the Carli route, haha). But the story definitely makes me feel all kinds of things, from good to bad, which again is something a good story does

I also agree that devs really should stick to their own vision, stay true to themselves, especially because you can NEVER please everybody, but if you're pleased and happy with your own work and take pride in it, others will see that and will respect and appreciate the work and effort. So many devs unfortunately let their supporters dictate the course of their game/story, one big example of that is V3X, that guy had a tremendous amount of potential, really talented, but sadly we all know what happened there, which is a damn shame. :/

 

[gigan]

@Seriosha i have test it and for me it´s work.I have make two screenshots whats happen when you click on the wardrobe after the lake event.After these pictures you can click on the door and the mc goes out

 

[Ursus4321]

Look at the game folder, there is subfolder called "where is the key".

I have not that subfolder.

 

[Ursus4321]

I have not that subfolder.

Then, where is the key at the end?

 

[gigan]

@Ursus4321 the key is in the mc room.Here is the picture what is in the folder "where is the key"

 

[Nerttu]

Where are those images in the game, witch are in the OP (preview images) ???? Are they removed from the game or what ??? Allso who are those people (Adele is one) ????

 

[gigan]

@Nerttu the pictures on the op site are from older version from the game.Zee95 has make since version 0.10 a "remake" from the game.I think it would be better to delete these pictures from the op and maybe put some new there

 

[princelovemia]

Is there more hidden buttons other than the 4 mentioned in the where is the key folder?

 

[gigan]

@princelovemia yes the new version has hidden buttons

 

[Eerie Entity]

Is there more hidden buttons other than the 4 mentioned in the where is the key folder?

You really want to pay attention to hidden buttons when about to attack the kidnapper, I suggest you start looking for them when the MC steps out of the liquor store and sees his sister getting kidnapped.

 

[there]

I have to disagree with you.

Personally i do not like WT as it detracts the player from the game experience. You should play it and whatever your decisions are, they should stay like that. Good or bad. Retry if you have to.

I found the Monique scenes very good, I am glad i did not need a WT for that. It ended in a sad and somewhat good note. Let's hope we get to see her again.

This weekend i played Depraved Awakening, Dual Family and started up again The Way after a hiatus. So for me it was a pretty sad emotionally challenging game weekend as all these games made me depressed. I would not have it any other way.

As devs we write our game according to our vision and what's in our hearts and minds. If you stuck on what to do next in a game, get onto F95 do a search first and if you cannot find the answer pop in a question. That should be your only WT you use. Experience a game as it was intended. Just my opinion on it.

Well done dev.

I would personally only use that sense while playing a game 'if' the game is complete in no matter what route you take. Say you are taking a route because you do not like NTR, Cheating, etc in a complete game. Those are major parts of a game but you know that even when you avoid those parts you are nonetheless going to get different contents in accordance to the actions you take and that in fact may result in those scenes you want to avoid.

That is a choice and personal story based game which many of us do enjoy and I agree we should play that way but you know what is annoying, when you take a path different from the intended path and the content ends then and there suddenly. I think during those periods of time, "If there is no content on this path I am trying to play in then the developer obviously wants us to play in a certain way, then why didn't he tell us how with all these choices?" and that is what I have a problem with.

Developers here are most of the time new and most of the time inexperienced. They are trying to attempt a very hard job of making a complete choice based game while managing their real life responsibilities at the same time. Patreon donation helps with those real life problems but nonetheless hardly many completely make a full choice based game with all paths fulfilled. That is why to me here concepts of "make your own path" or "play the way you want" in the games from Paetron hardly ever applies with a few exceptions like Four Elements Trainer, Depraved Awakening, Dreams of Desire and My Legacy.

 

[Eerie Entity]

I would personally only use that sense while playing a game 'if' the game is complete in no matter what route you take. Say you are taking a route because you do not like NTR, Cheating, etc in a complete game. Those are major parts of a game but you know that even when you avoid those parts you are nonetheless going to get different contents in accordance to the actions you take and that in fact may result in those scenes you want to avoid.

That is a choice and personal story based game which many of us do enjoy and I agree we should play that way but you know what is annoying, when you take a path different from the intended path and the content ends then and there suddenly. I think during those periods of time, "If there is no content on this path I am trying to play in then the developer obviously wants us to play in a certain way, then why didn't he tell us how with all these choices?" and that is what I have a problem with.

Developers here are most of the time new and most of the time inexperienced. They are trying to attempt a very hard job of making a complete choice based game while managing their real life responsibilities at the same time. Patreon donation helps with those real life problems but nonetheless hardly many completely make a full choice based game with all paths fulfilled. That is why to me here concepts of "make your own path" or "play the way you want" in the games from Paetron hardly ever applies with a few exceptions like Four Elements Trainer, Depraved Awakening, Dreams of Desire and My Legacy.

There's probably about 50 different games that I play, only about 5 of them got abandoned at some point, or are on hold.
The rest of the games, of which majority are VNs, lets say they have a love route, corruption route and so forth, ALL of these games and VNs have stayed true to it, not in any one of them has the love or corruption or any other route turned out to be different than what it was supposed to be, they all have stayed true to the intended paths, they don't go from "Man I love her so much, I want us to get married one day!" to "I'm gonna rape her right here and right now and then let my boys have their turn!". If you've played games/VNs that have swayed from their promised routes and directions, then I don't know what you have played, but I haven't experienced none of that.

 

[Deleted member 167032]

Fair point... So you do not like paths basically that are misleading and just side shows... not relevant to the main story?
As you have said making a VN is hard and lots to consider. Acting Lessons does this well.

I would personally only use that sense while playing a game 'if' the game is complete in no matter what route you take. Say you are taking a route because you do not like NTR, Cheating, etc in a complete game. Those are major parts of a game but you know that even when you avoid those parts you are nonetheless going to get different contents in accordance to the actions you take and that in fact may result in those scenes you want to avoid.

That is a choice and personal story based game which many of us do enjoy and I agree we should play that way but you know what is annoying, when you take a path different from the intended path and the content ends then and there suddenly. I think during those periods of time, "If there is no content on this path I am trying to play in then the developer obviously wants us to play in a certain way, then why didn't he tell us how with all these choices?" and that is what I have a problem with.

Developers here are most of the time new and most of the time inexperienced. They are trying to attempt a very hard job of making a complete choice based game while managing their real life responsibilities at the same time. Patreon donation helps with those real life problems but nonetheless hardly many completely make a full choice based game with all paths fulfilled. That is why to me here concepts of "make your own path" or "play the way you want" in the games from Paetron hardly ever applies with a few exceptions like Four Elements Trainer, Depraved Awakening, Dreams of Desire and My Legacy.

 

[Nerttu]

@Nerttu the pictures on the op site are from older version from the game.Zee95 has make since version 0.10 a "remake" from the game.I think it would be better to delete these pictures from the op and maybe put some new there

Thanks, that is what I was thinking too !! Yes, imho they should be change to reply the current game. Btw, as you see (my previous posts), I just found this game (like yesterday) and that is why asked this question (haven`t read all 73 paiges), but thanks again !!!!!