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Sinisterheat

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Great VN. Love it. Just gotta say though for those hating, there are other VN's for you. I strictly go for the story, the tags don't mean much for me. Though I will admit, I do enjoy corruption in VN's.
 
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Midnite Guerrilla

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I know this game is on hold, but I thought I would take Midnite Guerilla hints about Mrs.Hunter and see if I could reproduce her.

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That's not bad. Great work.

You better save that somewhere safe. I might need it if I have a harddrive fail!

Edit: it's not on hold. It's on a slower release timetable
 
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m4dsk1llz

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Ha, I save her as a Scene Subset. There were so many slider changes it would take a while to document all the changes. Her skin is not correct because I didn't use the skin builder resource, no blemishes or spots on her currently.
 

Midnite Guerrilla

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Ha, I save her as a Scene Subset. There were so many slider changes it would take a while to document all the changes. Her skin is not correct because I didn't use the skin builder resource, no blemishes or spots on her currently.
She should also have black hair rather than brown, although that might be the light shining through.
 

david123

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Its sad that there are people on here forcing you to take out the incest from the game. Im not into homosexuality but you dont see me go into games with homosexuality tags and asking the dev to change the game just because it doesnt turn me on. I hope you will keep the incest theme man. There are plenty of other games on here that dont have incest in them if people are disgusted by it.
 

m4dsk1llz

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Good to know, I did use brown since I was working off of only a few renders pulled from your game and they were pretty small. Even though I use a 43" 4K monitor, I never run these games full screen and the rips from the rpa were all 1280 x 720, so pretty small.

I basically used 1_bathroom_mom_2.png to match her profile. 3_cards_5_scroll.png and 4_hottub_17_scroll.png to get a front view and place physical features. I didn't really look for or find an image that I could use to match the skin.

Oh, by the way, I cheated on the eyeglasses, I didn't have Specs Appeal so I used some sunglasses with transparent lenses, that is why the temples are so large.

This next comment is not really a criticism, but a lot of the images are grainy (I suspect not enough iterations given the low light levels), the grain makes it much harder to distinguish small features.
 
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alexw14615

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Its sad that there are people on here forcing you to take out the incest from the game. Im not into homosexuality but you dont see me go into games with homosexuality tags and asking the dev to change the game just because it doesnt turn me on. I hope you will keep the incest theme man. There are plenty of other games on here that dont have incest in them if people are disgusted by it.
What are you talking about and why are you exaggerating like a woman? Every game on this site deals with incest and you know it. I get it you guys fantasize about your parents but not all of us are into that shit. Theres 3 billion women on the planet, i dont need to fantasize about my mother. Furthermore the incest tag was just added yesterday. Anyone who played before yesterday got a real nasty surprise at the end of the last update. I loved the game until then, especially how hes the first developer to finally get cumshots right. A happy medium could be an incest patch for you people who enjoy that and the landlady theme for the rest of us.
 

david123

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What are you talking about and why are you exaggerating like a woman? Every game on this site deals with incest and you know it. I get it you guys fantasize about your parents but not all of us are into that shit. Theres 3 billion women on the planet, i dont need to fantasize about my mother. Furthermore the incest tag was just added yesterday. Anyone who played before yesterday got a real nasty surprise at the end of the last update. I loved the game until then, especially how hes the first developer to finally get cumshots right. A happy medium could be an incest patch for you people who enjoy that and the landlady theme for the rest of us.
Why so salty? Just because we are into incest does not mean we fantasize about our own family members - its a taboo and some of us are into it. When you and Patreon puts restrictions on developers who want to create something they enjoy you end up with a product that seems insincere. And I dont want to discuss this with you further its a porn game forum not an ethics class. I completely respect the developer's choice - to go forward with his vision or not.
 

Midnite Guerrilla

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Good to know, I did use brown since I was working off of only a few renders pulled from your game and they were pretty small. Even though I use a 43" 4K monitor, I never run these games full screen and the rips from the rpa were all 1280 x 720, so pretty small.

I basically used 1_bathroom_mom_2.png to match her profile. 3_cards_5_scroll.png and 4_hottub_17_scroll.png to get a front view and place physical features. I didn't really look for or find an image that I could use to match the skin.

Oh, by the way, I cheated on the eyeglasses, I didn't have Specs Appeal so I used some sunglasses with transparent lenses, that is why the temples are so large.

This next comment is not really a criticism, but a lot of the images are grainy (I suspect not enough iterations given the low light levels), the grain makes it much harder to distinguish small features.
Yeah, I'm still getting the hang of lighting in Daz and I'm not very confident with a lot of the render setting sliders so any renders that come out ok have more to do with luck than skill. I'm still using a denoiser tool as a crutch, but that does reduce clarity so I'm working on it. At the moment the game is still low key enough that I haven't gone back and improved earlier noisy renders. It might be something I look into. To be honest, it's a time/money issue. In an ideal world I would have the money for a render farm that rendered while I posed. At the moment I pose as much as time allows in between family and work commitments and then I render (via a queue) over night or during the day while I'm at work. It's not the most efficient process but I am but one man who never hit more than $130 per month on patreon :confused:

Not that I'm complaining. It was my choice to put the game on a slower release schedule and donations on hiatus, my reasoning for which I explained at the time. Since then I have been heartened by the support and I stand by the decision. I don't think I would have had the support if people thought I was milking or scamming them. I would rather have $60 honest dollars than $600 dishonest ones. I guess that's why I'm not rich :)
 

m4dsk1llz

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Yeah, I'm still getting the hang of lighting in Daz and I'm not very confident with a lot of the render setting sliders so any renders that come out ok have more to do with luck than skill. I'm still using a denoiser tool as a crutch, but that does reduce clarity so I'm working on it.
My background was amateur photography, then moved to digital when DSLRs came on the scene. I learned a long time ago that if you want to create a mood digitally it is much easier to 'add it in post.' So I tend to overexpose all my scenes and then adjust the mood in post production (Photoshop or Lightroom). I am also finding out that as long as the light angles are correct, over-exposing (more accurately using the highest EV setting that doesn't blow out the highlights) actually speeds up Daz renders.

At the moment the game is still low key enough that I haven't gone back and improved earlier noisy renders. It might be something I look into. To be honest, it's a time/money issue. In an ideal world I would have the money for a render farm that rendered while I posed. At the moment I pose as much as time allows in between family and work commitments and then I render (via a queue) over night or during the day while I'm at work. It's not the most efficient process but I am but one man who never hit more than $130 per month on patreon :confused:
The only reason I have a modern computer is that I primarily do 3D CAD, and model bicycling accessories, proceeds from that business allows me to upgrade equipment every year if necessary. This Daz stuff benefits just because of the machine I need to run for mechanical 3D renders.

One suggestion, render at a much higher resolution than 1280 x 720 and then reduce the image size in post production. By default you will gain some sharpness reducing the image. And, with enough light your renders won't be as long as you think. The one I posted was a 4K render and it was about 45 minutes with just over 1000 iterations.

Not that I'm complaining. It was my choice to put the game on a slower release schedule and donations on hiatus, my reasoning for which I explained at the time. Since then I have been heartened by the support and I stand by the decision. I don't think I would have had the support if people thought I was milking or scamming them. I would rather have $60 honest dollars than $600 dishonest ones. I guess that's why I'm not rich :)
I am in a similar situation, family first, and I am not getting rich doing the 3D CAD stuff either, I suppose I could go to work for one of the big three bike companies but where would the fun in that be, this is a hobby and the DAZ stuff is a new hobby. Not that I needed a new hobby.
 

Midnite Guerrilla

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What are you talking about and why are you exaggerating like a woman? Every game on this site deals with incest and you know it. I get it you guys fantasize about your parents but not all of us are into that shit. Theres 3 billion women on the planet, i dont need to fantasize about my mother. Furthermore the incest tag was just added yesterday. Anyone who played before yesterday got a real nasty surprise at the end of the last update. I loved the game until then, especially how hes the first developer to finally get cumshots right. A happy medium could be an incest patch for you people who enjoy that and the landlady theme for the rest of us.
Why so salty? Just because we are into incest does not mean we fantasize about our own family members - its a taboo and some of us are into it. When you and Patreon puts restrictions on developers who want to create something they enjoy you end up with a product that seems insincere. And I dont want to discuss this with you further its a porn game forum not an ethics class. I completely respect the developer's choice - to go forward with his vision or not.
I get what you are saying and I have put some potential story thoughts in spoilers. If you want to know what I'm thinking re story (I have an overall, general story plan but the details aren't meticulously planned, I find when you're writing sometimes the characters and their personalities cause you to do things differently to how you had planned.) WARNING. ONLY READ IF YOU WANT A DETAILED GLIMPSE INTO THE STORY THAT MAY ACTUALLY SPOIL THINGS FOR YOU!!

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Midnite Guerrilla

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My background was amateur photography, then moved to digital when DSLRs came on the scene. I learned a long time ago that if you want to create a mood digitally it is much easier to 'add it in post.' So I tend to overexpose all my scenes and then adjust the mood in post production (Photoshop or Lightroom). I am also finding out that as long as the light angles are correct, over-exposing (more accurately using the highest EV setting that doesn't blow out the highlights) actually speeds up Daz renders.

The only reason I have a modern computer is that I primarily do 3D CAD, and model bicycling accessories, proceeds from that business allows me to upgrade equipment every year if necessary. This Daz stuff benefits just because of the machine I need to run for mechanical 3D renders.

One suggestion, render at a much higher resolution than 1280 x 720 and then reduce the image size in post production. By default you will gain some sharpness reducing the image. And, with enough light your renders won't be as long as you think. The one I posted was a 4K render and it was about 45 minutes with just over 1000 iterations.

I am in a similar situation, family first, and I am not getting rich doing the 3D CAD stuff either, I suppose I could go to work for one of the big three bike companies but where would the fun in that be, this is a hobby and the DAZ stuff is a new hobby. Not that I needed a new hobby.
Yeah, I have about a dozen hobbies at the moment; I want to stop and focus on more productive things but this is just so much fun. It's like having your own studio!

The brighter lighting and reduce in post is a good idea. My instinct has been to try and render perfect scenes, but I guess that's silly. I have had to fix a load of renders in photoshop - a lot of the living room scenes in the evening have been too dark and it would probably be better to darken rather than lighten. I do render at greater than 1280 x 720, I usually render at either twice that (2560 x 1440) or sometimes 4x that (5120 x 2880) depending on how the lower resolution render comes out. I reduce them down to 1280 x 720 because that's the resolution I started making the game in.
 

david123

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Thats very clever! Ya I had my own theories on what was going on - the way she stopped for a sec when the MC said he was adopted. It seemed almost as though she was hiding something from him. Maybe she and her husband were going through some hard times and let a black family adopt their son.
But anyway the game looks awesome and even if you decide to go the non-incest route - it might be hard for you to split the game into two - I will still play.
 

Midnite Guerrilla

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Just to let people know that it is now November 1st. That means the Patreon hiatus is coming to an end. I have posted a patreon only post to give patr(e)ons the option of how to proceed.

Meanwhile I am still working on version 0.6 and have now implemented a non-incest version (I'm sure it wouldn't be beyond the wit of man to create a patch to reverse this ;) )

This will mean that old savegames will no longer work.

Additionally, depending on how patreons vote, savegames and/or walkthroughs might be paid for bonuses.

Just a head's up.
 
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