Hexxy

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then don't advertise it as a harem game
On a site that features rape, bestiality, gore, Vore, Lolis etc. Arguments about diversity and inclusion are the last things I expect or want to see, because its everywhere else.
Ahh, I thought as much, but thanks for the clarification, OGNA.

So, the point of this channel is to differentiate it from all of those other channels - channels that feature rape, bestiality and the rest. Imo, this game is much more accessible precisely because of its avoidance of extreme festishes. It's mainstream, which some people interpret as ho-hum vanilla, but it also means an appeal to a wide swath of players, which helps Dots and his crew make bank.

And there isn't a damn thing wrong with that.

My sole issue is that after the disapointing lack of Final Girls being anything but white gals, coupled with the promises of more diverse choices of Love Interests and Final Girls to be non-Caucasian in the game following Sunshine Love, this game has precisely zero women of color. I don't know what made Dots and his team backpedal on that promise, but it is really disappointing, considering how may potential players dig interracial sex [that, for a change, doesn't involve some white gal getting triple-teamed by BBC].

I don't expect that a comment left here on a pirate site makes any dent on how Dots chooses his content, but I do expect that if a promise was made regarding diversity, that diversity should be obvious. That it isn't is what taints this game, at least for me.
 
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OhGodNotAgain

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he is literally just asking for better variety in porn game lmao, I cannot fathom getting upset about this in the way you seem to be leaning.
If that's all it was, I wouldn't have a problem. The post came across as needlessly political.

I would disagree with the idea that this is a discussion or topic that should have to hide behind closed doors...unless there is a financial reason why it needs to be.
To avoid devolving into off topic political arguments. I imagine most don't want to deal with that shit here.
 

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If that's all it was, I wouldn't have a problem. The post came across as needlessly political.


To avoid devolving into off topic political arguments. I imagine most don't want to deal with that shit here.
I am not sure that asking why planned diversity wasn't implemented [as well as why it appears to have gone in the opposite direction] is a political discussion.

I mean, if you personally have issues with perceived 'wokeness' [for non-Americans, woke/wokeness is a recent disparagement used by conservatives to dismiss issues of equity, representation and other stuff], then that would be something you can endeavor to keep out of the conversation if its presented by others.

This isn't about politics; its about promises made; I supported this and earlier Dots games based on that promise.

As well, its about the utter lack of the 85-90% of the world's population that isn't White. I guess someone might see that as a political issue, but that would seem to be a significant misapprehension of the discussion.
 
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Hexxy

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im as done with the woke crap as the next one, but if he's (was) a donor and talked with the devs multiple times about it and they told him it would happen but it never did, than he has a valid argument to complain about them.
I was indeed [until recently] a donor/supporter, and this was a conversation addressed in both Melody and Sunshine Love game pages, and on the Petreon discussion groups [as much as was allowed, until warned off the topic]. This isn't a new problem by any definition.
 

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I am not sure that asking why planned diversity wasn't implemented [as well as why it appears to have gone in the opposite direction] isn't a political discussion.

I mean, if you personally have issues with perceived 'wokeness' [for non-Americans, woke/wokeness is a recent disparagement used by conservatives to dismiss issues of equity, representation and other stuff], then that would be something you can endeavor to keep out of the conversation if its presented by others.

This isn't about politics; its about promises made; I supported this and earlier Dots games based on that promise.

As well, its about the utter lack of the 85-90% of the world's population that isn't White. I guess someone might see that as a political issue, but that would seem to be a significant misapprehension of the discussion.
Definitely less diverse cast of ladies than SuLo

Granted SuLo also had a large cast which allows for a mix but makes for trouble in all the spider web of story lines later in the VN.

SuLo was not tagged or billed as a harem but it had group sex scenes so if this one does not or has less that would be another weird step back.

Now keep in mind some of the "hold your cards close to the vest" about not saying a future element in case life happens and it does not make it in, may mean we will see some of what we want. That remains to be seen.

I read that 2 of the harem are still not revealed so perhaps one of them will be something other than "white chick" (I am so into redheads I do not usually pay attention to that aspect of LIs but I support your reasoning that there was more than there is now)
 

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"Ariel?"
"Hmm?"

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"This is literally the same hairstyle you've had five minutes ago that i had zero reaction to. Why are you acting out of sudden as if you've just given yourself a dramatic makeover? For that matter, why i'm acting like that, too?"

(sorry, just a bit too silly moment to resist poking a little fun)
 
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ffive

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it's not a bug, you maybe just missed some task points to complete the task (most likely you did some wrong choices)
No, that sequence is bugged -- you only get the task (Zora's training session) to conclude if you choose to spy on Zora in the showers *and* trigger the "non-canon scene" in there. Otherwise the game skips straight to the next scene (talking with co-worker) and the task never concludes. And i'd argue there's no reason to force the player to view scene they might not want to, especially if it doesn't actually add any task point (plus, missing out on task points drops the grade, but it shouldn't stop the task from getting concluded altogether)
 

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"Ariel?"
"Hmm?"

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"This is literally the same hairstyle you've had five minutes ago that i had zero reaction to. Why are you acting out of sudden as if you've just given yourself a dramatic makeover? For that matter, why i'm acting like that, too?"

(sorry, just a bit too silly moment to resist poking a little fun)
Hey now, at least she put glasses on. That was enough for Superman, wasn't it?
 

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No, that sequence is bugged -- you only get the task (Zora's training session) to conclude if you choose to spy on Zora in the showers *and* trigger the "non-canon scene" in there. Otherwise the game skips straight to the next scene (talking with co-worker) and the task never concludes. And i'd argue there's no reason to force the player to view scene they might not want to, especially if it doesn't actually add any task point (plus, missing out on task points drops the grade, but it shouldn't stop the task from getting concluded altogether)
shouldn't be that way - we'll have a look into that
 
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"Ariel?"
"Hmm?"

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"This is literally the same hairstyle you've had five minutes ago that i had zero reaction to. Why are you acting out of sudden as if you've just given yourself a dramatic makeover? For that matter, why i'm acting like that, too?"

(sorry, just a bit too silly moment to resist poking a little fun)
I took that as a typo/mistranslation. I read it as "let my hair down" which means to allow yourself to relax. It was in response to her not wearing her glasses, and she said she didn't need them, and if they were going to sit and relax, she might as well let her hair [hang] down too. So in other words, if they're going to sit and watch a movie, she will relax and take off her glasses, since she doesn't need them.

Obviously I could be wrong, but it's just how I read this exchange when I played it.
 

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I've finished my playthrough of the second episode and I quite enjoyed it overall. I think my main complaints* are about the sex scenes, and it's a difficult one, because one of those complaints stems from the very reason the scenes are there in the first place. It was said that scenes are added to give some sex for players where the story isn't in the right place to have some - making sure there's at least one sex scene per episode. I applaud that in general, but I don't think they were well implemented here.
*I'm not actually complaining, just a figure of speech here as I give my thoughts on the episode.

The one scene that was part of the story did not fit at all for me, and for me the episode would have been better without it. I wasn't interested in the girl either, so that doesn't help, but story-wise, I didn't think it felt right in the first place. The "non-canon" scenes were hit and miss for me. I don't mind the using imagination/dreaming bits, that's kind of natural, though I can take them or leave them. There were a couple of scenes though that I felt would easily fit as story elements, it's just that the MC isn't there to witness them. Maybe that's why they're extra scenes, but I don't think they needed to be listed as non-canon. Showing what a turned-on girl does when she gets somewhere private, or showing what a turned-on girl did before needing a shower is fine for me, and as far as I'm concerned, it fits the story and doesn't need to be counted as "non-canon".

Overall, I thought the story was decent enough, and the visuals nice. I thought it was a bit weird that two people would settle down to watch a movie on a sofa with such a low back that they couldn't lean back and relax, and I thought it was a bit weird that all of a sudden we're kissing everyone (though it moves that part of the story along, so I don't mind it). The only thing that I did find to actually point out was the inconsistency in Vivian's lingerie, where it kept switching from lacy to silky, sometimes literally just when she moved her arm from one frame to another:
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