Things you're tired of seeing in a game?

[grohotor]

My biggest annoyance is with Daz itself and how this influences the games that are made.

The clothes are very fetishistic. Pretty much all the armor sets and fantasy/historical clothes look like pervy Halloween outfits.

Vast majority of environment are either low quality or very limited in scope and usability besides the what the seller used in the promotional shots.

When it comes to the game stereotypes the most annoying thing is the horse dick manlet and his amazonian mother. seriously its always like this. Why is every milf physically gigantic? Has none actually seen a middle aged woman before?

 

[Loganfin]

My biggest annoyance is with Daz itself and how this influences the games that are made.

The clothes are very fetishistic. Pretty much all the armor sets and fantasy/historical clothes look like pervy Halloween outfits.

Vast majority of environment are either low quality or very limited in scope and usability besides the what the seller used in the promotional shots.

When it comes to the game stereotypes the most annoying thing is the horse dick manlet and his amazonian mother. seriously its always like this. Why is every milf physically gigantic? Has none actually seen a middle aged woman before?

Its fantasy, and a lot of people like that. We're all different, but I'm here for fantasy, not real life.

 

[qwsaq]

Different types of stories. It depends on if the story is intended for realism, escapism or absurdism.
You act as if all adult games are written as one form.

My point isn't that all porn is inherently "absurd." But nearly any story ever written, regardless of medium, theme, or genre, will sacrifice some realism for the sake of interest. Autistic levels of realism makes for a boring story.

Is every porn game meant to be an absurdity? No. In fact most don't fall into that level. Most fall into escapism and realism and some place between them. Absurdity is rarely used in any literary or game work to the full extent of the product. It is mostly sprinkled in it.

So why is it you are trying to act as if all games fall into single category that is the least used of all of them?

Caricature =/= absurdity. A cast of complex, multi-dimensional characters is absolutely a must if you're writing a character driven narrative. But when the narrative is plot driven (as is the case with most of the games on this site), the focus ostensibly isn't on the characters. Exaggerated traits are not only acceptable but desirable. A character who's effectively the embodiment of unrepentant greed, for example, is a great choice if you want to write a plot driven story about greed.
One is not better than the other.

It could be done to appeal to a lot larger crowd. Worrying about people who simply click through trying to fap is a waste time and money. They are the smallest general group of people to appeal to.
There is a much larger market share and group of people that can with a little work be appeased.

Remember that we are talking about porn games here. I must reiterate that the people who aren't interested in porn will not be interested in porn games. Much like your statement regarding straight men who won't support a game that has gay content, the people who aren't into porn won't support a game that contains porn no matter how great the writing or gameplay is.
The solution, in this case, is to make the game not porn. This renders the entire conversation moot. Romance/drama/comedy games with sexual, but not pornographic, themes already exist. These stories are already being told. Your "problem" is already solved.

 

[doku99]

My point isn't that all porn is inherently "absurd." But nearly any story ever written, regardless of medium, theme, or genre, will sacrifice some realism for the sake of interest. Autistic levels of realism makes for a boring story.


Caricature =/= absurdity. A cast of complex, multi-dimensional characters is absolutely a must if you're writing a character driven narrative. But when the narrative is plot driven (as is the case with most of the games on this site), the focus ostensibly isn't on the characters. Exaggerated traits are not only acceptable but desirable. A character who's effectively the embodiment of unrepentant greed, for example, is a great choice if you want to write a plot driven story about greed.
One is not better than the other.


Remember that we are talking about porn games here. I must reiterate that the people who aren't interested in porn will not be interested in porn games. Much like your statement regarding straight men who won't support a game that has gay content, the people who aren't into porn won't support a game that contains porn no matter how great the writing or gameplay is.
The solution, in this case, is to make the game not porn. This renders the entire conversation moot. Romance/drama/comedy games with sexual, but not pornographic, themes already exist. These stories are already being told. Your "problem" is already solved.

True. Good example is Summertime Saga. The game isn't "realistic" at all, and you can call it a caricature, but it isn't unenjoyable or absurd. It's a great game, even if it's not realistic.

Some people really need to be told sometimes: "look, man, it's porn game."

If you want your porn to be completely realistic, I recommend you try making such a game. You'll find that it's nearly impossible to do, and if you somehow manage to, it's probably not going to be very sexy. And why would you want your porn game to be completely realistic anyway? Go outside then lol, go have realistic sex. Leave the games to us who actually like fantasy.

 

[Virulenz]

-A lack of manners...many charas talk with their mouths full, for example while kissing, eating pussys, giving blowjobs, ...

 

[Sphere42]

-A lack of manners...many charas talk with their mouths full, for example while kissing, eating pussys, giving blowjobs, ...

If they say anything other than "mmmph" they're either telepathic or not doing it properly.

 

[Jaike]

oh, sub and dom switching. seriously wtf is up with that. i feel like that's bdsm for people who aren't actually into bdsm, but that's just my own opinion, it seems lots of people like it (???)

You do know that switches exist, do you? Your view is wrong.

 

[Greiya Archives]

You do know that switches exist, do you? Your view is wrong.

um i did say it was just my own opinion, and that lots of people seem to like it.

and read my comment right above the one you replied to. i said that any one thing some people dislike, some people also like.

 

[stabrepete]

When it comes to the game stereotypes the most annoying thing is the horse dick manlet and his amazonian mother. seriously its always like this. Why is every milf physically gigantic? Has none actually seen a middle aged woman before?

that's the problem with adjusting from premade characters instead of using the morphs on Genesis and not making a point of reference when designing the model. several times ive made a character only to load another figure into the scene to relize ive made gigantor or mini me.

for example here is G8F, G8M, Victoria 8(the base for many female characters) Nosaka 8 Tworeset 8 and Nishi. the wall represents 6ft in daz. as you can see V8 is over 6ft tall while g8m is about 2 inches shorter. I dont have a Mike 8 to compare him to V8 but all of the female variants except tworeset are at or near 6ft. even the asian female is over 5'9. you often have a problem with furniture being to small for the females so you have to scale it up or them down.



as far as the dick sizes the default size for dictator and xy is like 9in

 

[qwsaq]

If you want your porn to be completely realistic, I recommend you try making such a game. You'll find that it's nearly impossible to do, and if you somehow manage to, it's probably not going to be very sexy. And why would you want your porn game to be completely realistic anyway? Go outside then lol, go have realistic sex. Leave the games to us who actually like fantasy.

Nah bro; I got this.
I'll make a "largely uneventful sex with your wife/girlfriend" simulator. She won't be in the mood 50% of the time but you're not gonna rape her because you're not an asshole and/or you don't wanna go to assrape prison. Or maybe you do but expect the guards to not engage in your fetish and you're basically some dude's bitch. He's got a lot of friends who will stab you so it's not like trying to retaliate will result in sexual punishments or anything. You just die.
GOTY!

 

[doku99]

Nah bro; I got this.
I'll make a "largely uneventful sex with your wife/girlfriend" simulator. She won't be in the mood 50% of the time but you're not gonna rape her because you're not an asshole and/or you don't wanna go to assrape prison. Or maybe you do but expect the guards to not engage in your fetish and you're basically some dude's bitch. He's got a lot of friends who will stab you so it's not like trying to retaliate will result in sexual punishments or anything. You just die.
GOTY!

Hahaha

 

[Rafster]

Or maybe you do but expect the guards to not engage in your fetish and you're basically some dude's bitch. He's got a lot of friends who will stab you so it's not like trying to retaliate will result in sexual punishments or anything. You just die.

Damn man, you take away all the fun of a prison sequence on smut games

 

[EnterpriseNL]

Sandbox elements, that's a big no no for me, it doesn't belong in a VN

 

[Jaike]

um i did say it was just my own opinion, and that lots of people seem to like it.

and read my comment right above the one you replied to. i said that any one thing some people dislike, some people also like.

That's true and maybe I was a bit too harsh. But opinions can be wrongheaded too and you did say about people who're part of the BDSM culture "that's bdsm for people who aren't actually into bdsm". I'm no switch but I don't get why you'd say that about them. Some people just like some ambiguity and messiness in their power relations?

 

[zuulan]

What i dislike.

* Monster sise bodyparts. Dick, brests , ass.

* Especially annoys me the background story, where rich family is totaly poor lost it all. Yeah for sure head of family can go bankrupt and lose a house if he stupid enough not keep business and private life separated, but that doesn't mean wife will lose her jewelry and son his sportscar or family savings, so that is a totally BS story that will be repeated again and again.

* Japanese games where is mandatory to get raped and have no way to avoid it.

*Battlefuck mechanic in games total BS.

 

[Deleted member 4766151]

Visual Novel type games made in Unity instead of Ren'py. Just stop. I will not play your game, even if I like the artwork.

 

[Deleted member 4766151]

* Japanese games where is mandatory to get raped and have no way to avoid it.

I simply refuse to play ANY japanese games due to cringy stories, repetitive gameplays or unappealing artworks. So, that problem does not arise.

 

[Greiya Archives]

That's true and maybe I was a bit too harsh. But opinions can be wrongheaded too and you did say about people who're part of the BDSM culture "that's bdsm for people who aren't actually into bdsm". I'm no switch but I don't get why you'd say that about them. Some people just like some ambiguity and messiness in their power relations?

I conveyed the wrong tone with my comment, I really didn't mean for it to sound mocking. it's just that it's a really big turn off for me, and i was complaining cause i see it in games too much.
it's purely a matter of personal preference.

I think the tone i was going for is conveyed better when you read my 2 comments consecutively, wherein i advocated tolerance of any fetishes one doesn't like (cause other people like them), but then went on to complain about things i don't like.

I really do hope i didn't offend anyone, and sorry if i did

 

[TittyLuvr1334]

1 - incest.
2 - coyly adding incest but pretending it isn't so that you can appease some protocol restrictions cuz everyone knows anyways
3 - all the NPCs having the same mannerisms and talking patters and vernacular so as to never really tell one from another.
4 - page click after page click of endless inner monologue while staring at a bookshelf. Why not show the sexy person you're thinking of - when you're on the phone with a sexy gal, why not show her in various sexy clothes, perhaps laying on the bed, adding lotion to her legs all sorts of non-sexual but still subtle turn-ons. Certainly better than staring at the door during 20 clicks of inner-monologue of thinking about the previous day events.

 

[zuulan]

Ah i almost forgot. Realporn tag, this is most sensless type of game even created, i would rather play stickman.

There is everything wrong with realporn, starting with people faces and bodys dont match, over the edge graphics no room for fantasy or makeing sense who is that chracter. Overally owful. I see realporn tag i instantly get 1 star.