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CamaroFan432

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Yeah, it really looks like the Dev started out by making a game that wasn't a pure harem and later he rethought what he was doing and decided to add a pure harem option in the future, but without touching what he had done.



In reality, as the game is now, it's adding complexity by including a variety of multiple endings that aren't going to add anything: It's true that many of those who are enjoying the game would appreciate being able to recover LIs, but, as I said before, none of them I would have complained that this option didn't exist. The appearance is that adding that option is intended to win over an audience that isn't actually going to play the game despite it. In any case, what is apparent is one thing and reality is another, what the Dev has said is that he first decided to make a harem game and then decided to make the options as he did. And I have no reason to doubt that it was so.
I agree with you. There would've been better ways to do this. One example I want to make would be in the Julie scene. Instead of outright rejecting her or accepting her advances, he could've given an additional option. The option could've led to the MC explaining to Julie, that he gave a promise to Kiana and that Julie is drunk and he didn't want to abuse her state or better avoiding her having regrets in the morning. I promise you, every person out there don't wanting to be a dick, would've chosen that. As for the Kiana/Valerie situation, there would've been probably also a decent solution. Sure, the girls, you would've said sorry to, could still feel slightly upset, but they would've known, that they didn't got rejected. But rejecting them without other options like it's done for now, feels just as bad as to see, when writers think the only way to have some drama in game is to add netorare/rape content (nothing in here as for now, mind you). Well, this is not my game, I'm no writer myself and just throwing ideas around. In the end the dev needs to know themself, what they get into. If my ideas get (partly) picked up, cool. If not, also cool.
 

Hornyowl

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This is probably the easiest fix, yes, and yes, I'd set the game to Ignore immediately if this happened. I am both uninterested in games iwth multiple LIs where you must pick one, and uninterested in games that force me to be an asshole to LIs.

Mutually-exclusive LI pathing is always a dev/writer choice to add in, so it should only be added on purpose... And it can only be fixed by a dev/writer choice to not do that. Writers should not feel obligated to force every decision to have positive and negative aspects of all options. Route pathing in harem games traditionally boils down to "Do you want to be on this LI's route? Y/N", with other, more important choices determining more of how you treat THAT SPECIFIC LI. Making us choose to hurt one LI in favor of another is just not fun.
Seconded. I chose the game specifically because of the fantasy/harem combo. There are many games I play where I chose the game based on 'harem' being a future tag. So if the dev drops the harem, it becomes boring (for me) and I will set it to Ignore as well; especially now that I have seen Rose, Annabelle, Kiana and Valerie.
 

YogSothoth1982

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I agree with you. There would've been better ways to do this. One example I want to make would be in the Julie scene. Instead of outright rejecting her or accepting her advances, he could've given an additional option. The option could've led to the MC explaining to Julie, that he gave a promise to Kiana and that Julie is drunk and he didn't want to abuse her state or better avoiding her having regrets in the morning. I promise you, every person out there don't wanting to be a dick, would've chosen that. As for the Kiana/Valerie situation, there would've been probably also a decent solution. Sure, the girls, you would've said sorry to, could still feel slightly upset, but they would've known, that they didn't got rejected. But rejecting them without other options like it's done for now, feels just as bad as to see, when writers think the only way to have some drama in game is to add netorare/rape content (nothing in here as for now, mind you). Well, this is not my game, I'm no writer myself and just throwing ideas around. In the end the dev needs to know themself, what they get into. If my ideas get (partly) picked up, cool. If not, also cool.
Or simply not make us choose between them.
 

Look-see

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Aug 19, 2018
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should have read the comments before i downloaded the game.

game was...long. before you get any choice options. so yeah you get molested in your sleep...alright first indication some sex scenes will be forced.

no choices regarding much other then who you get to bang. although i greatly appreciate that i would like to be able to choose more of what the mc does as well as who he does.

does he decide to torture the goblin for more info for example. does he have a more aggressive fighting style attacking or defensive. does he choose to sneak up on orcs or charge in. is his hunting style more cautious or confident (which could determine if he got knocked tf out or not).

but of course the biggest problem was the branching of a potential harem game. didnt want to reject one girl to get a scene of another. the rose/annabelle scene for example. MC could've said yes to rose had the scene and MC decides to go home afterwards in which he can decide to accept the bath offer....but no.

even in chapter 2 was a good chance for the girl who was rejected to try again during the night scene before the kidnapping.

also still worried about what potentially happened to Annabelle. i mean that could've been explained what the chief wanted with them before those orcs were killed. orcs are famous for certain things in these AVNS so it would be nice if her fate wasnt left in the air like that especially in a supposed harem game.

aside from that considering this game has fantasy characters. are there gonna be any female orcs and such or is it all human?
 

rudiasu

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Overview:
Step into the shoes of a young man who is entering a new decade of his life.
Filled with adventure, purpose, and caring people, he seems to have it all. However, nothing is as it seems at first glance.
With evil looming just around the corner, his life takes a sudden and unexpected turn.
Will darkness and evil consume his surroundings, or will he rise above them and save the people closest to him?
Thread Updated: 2023-08-01
Release Date: 2023-08-01
Developer: Manifest Visuals -
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Version: Chapter 2
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chapter 3 please
 

primoo357

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Great game! I like where the story is going. Keep up the good work.
Hoping to see some Orcs capture the girls in the next update
 

YogSothoth1982

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Jun 26, 2018
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Great game! I like where the story is going. Keep up the good work.
Hoping to see some Orcs capture the girls in the next update
Well, I hope you don't hope that those orcs will rape the LIs.

If the game isn't exactly the best developed to be a romance harem game, including scenes where orcs rape LIs would be the icing on the cake.
 

Ribaso

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Oct 22, 2020
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I see Kiana changed, good...I was turning her off because of how she looked. :KEK:
She used to look ridiculous, but now I may hold on a chain of saves for her route.
 

battali0n

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Planned for future: Group Sex, Pregnancy, Harem, Multiple Endings
What do you mean by group sex?
Will it be threesomes or more than that?
Will it be centered only on the MC or will there be sexual interactions between others?
Will there be bi-sexual and lesbian content and if so will it be only at the choice of the player or is it forced?
 

fifo5310

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Threads of Fate - Chapter 3: The Rescue is now live on Patreon


- ~2k new renders

- 35+ animations

- New main menu look

- 5 fonts to choose from in settings for dialogue

- Added quick menu hover functionality

- Changed choice button design

 

SonsOfLiberty

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Threads of Fate [Ch. 3] [Manifest Visuals]

NOTE: Incest patch is included, but is not applied.

COMPRESSED: Win/Linux/Mac:
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OleJackRipper

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so. . . .
based on the comments I've seen. We got an entire update after the orc attack and kidnapping. And we don't have a situation update on the mom's situation.

Manifest Visuals , I'm sorry man. You've taken criticism really well. I do not want to be any of the last straws. But ambiguity and a gap of "know nothing" with an explanation later tends to not be accepted.

I've played another vn where soldiers attack the mc's home. His mother goes to delay them and let her children escape. You hear the soldiers make sport of her. And later we're told the mc's mother was . . . .beaten to death? and nothing but beating her?! You don't see the scene and that's the lynchpin the dev uses.
a patreon version for ntr lovers shows an "alternate" where they gang-raped her to death. However the gang-rape made a lot more sense than the beating to death the dev staunchly insisted happened. Hell, some even said the dev was gaslighting.
I mention that to say, if you leave her a captive for longer, excuses and reassurances tend to be less believable given the established reputation for goblins, orcs, and more especially in porn.
 
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Manifest Visuals

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so. . . .
based on the comments I've seen. We got an entire update after the orc attack and kidnapping. And we don't have a situation update on the mom's situation.

Manifest Visuals , I'm sorry man. You've taken criticism really well. I do not want to be any of the last straws. But ambiguity and a gap of "know nothing" with an explanation later tends to not be accepted.

I've played another vn where soldiers attack the mc's home. His mother goes to delay them and let her children escape. You hear the soldiers make sport of her. And later we're told the mc's mother was . . . .beaten to death? and nothing but beating her?! You don't see the scene and that's the lynchpin the dev uses.
a patreon version for ntr lovers shows an "alternate" where they gang-raped her to death. However the gang-rape made a lot more sense than the beating to death the dev staunchly insisted happened. Hell, some even said the dev was gaslighting.
I mention that to say, if you leave her a captive for longer, excuses and reassurances tend to be less believable given the established reputation for goblins, orcs, and more especially in porn.
I tend to leave this stuff to the player's perception and imagination. And who's to say they don't do those things "behind close doors," so to speak. I think I would get the criticism either way. I would guess that the majority of people wouldn't like to see or even hear the mention of that type of content, especially if that happened to one of MC's love interests.
 
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