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BadMoonZ

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It's been a while since I played this, but I figured Penny was told by MC's mother that she was leaving. They knew each other from the PTA or whatever group the mother was a part of connected to the school. She could be the lover, but it seems much more likely Alexandra is the lover. I think Penny feels guilty towards MC because the mother told her she was leaving with the lover (likely not about Damon) and Penny could have told MC but didn't.
 

Tiron2020

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The last time Dev releases episode 4, he also disappeared for a year and a half, and then released episode 5. So let's hope he releases a new episode during 2024.
I also probably think episode 6 will be big enough and final, because all that's left for MC to do is:
1. Hear Alexandra's story about her past and connection with MC's mother.
2. Meet with MC's mother, get answers to all questions from her (I hope there will be a choice to forgive her or not).
3. Deal with Damon (I don't mind beating him unconscious).
4. Find out why MC's father avoids him and does not want to meet.
5. Watch the final of the MC with his Love Interest.

(This is my theory of what will happen in episode 6, I don't mind hearing other theories).
 

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The last time Dev releases episode 4, he also disappeared for a year and a half, and then released episode 5. So let's hope he releases a new episode during 2024.
I also probably think episode 6 will be big enough and final, because all that's left for MC to do is:
1. Hear Alexandra's story about her past and connection with MC's mother.
2. Meet with MC's mother, get answers to all questions from her (I hope there will be a choice to forgive her or not).
3. Deal with Damon (I don't mind beating him unconscious).
4. Find out why MC's father avoids him and does not want to meet.
5. Watch the final of the MC with his Love Interest.

(This is my theory of what will happen in episode 6, I don't mind hearing other theories).
Got my fingers crossed for #4 if Dev returns. A reckoning with Damon is long overdue.
 
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The last time Dev releases episode 4, he also disappeared for a year and a half, and then released episode 5. So let's hope he releases a new episode during 2024.
I also probably think episode 6 will be big enough and final, because all that's left for MC to do is:
1. Hear Alexandra's story about her past and connection with MC's mother. (I hope there will be a choice to fuck her)
2. Meet with MC's mother, get answers to all questions from her (I hope there will be a choice to forgivefuck her or not).
3. Deal with Damon (I don't mind beating him unconscious).
4. Find out why MC's father avoids him and does not want to meet.
5. Watch the final of the MC with his Love Interest or not (solo MC banging hot milfs)

(This is my theory of what will happen in episode 6, I don't mind hearing other theories).
I mostly agree with you...a few parts could be improved though, and i took the liberty (in italics)
 
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The last time Dev releases episode 4, he also disappeared for a year and a half, and then released episode 5. So let's hope he releases a new episode during 2024.
I also probably think episode 6 will be big enough and final, because all that's left for MC to do is:
1. Hear Alexandra's story about her past and connection with MC's mother.
2. Meet with MC's mother, get answers to all questions from her (I hope there will be a choice to forgive her or not).
3. Deal with Damon (I don't mind beating him unconscious).
4. Find out why MC's father avoids him and does not want to meet.
5. Watch the final of the MC with his Love Interest.

(This is my theory of what will happen in episode 6, I don't mind hearing other theories).
lers hope he doesnt do that,bcs imagine all those thing in your list going to hell bcs dev have no clue about what he is doing,....
we have the entire game to see that he was doing everyting without a final script at hand,....my first adivice to any dev is to have a general idea or concept how the story will progree and at least have a couple of endings done before beggining to develop anything,.so many good games go to waste bcs that dev didnt think further ,they think maybe 2 or 3 updates and "lets see if someone is hoked up ' to continue,.....such a waaste
 
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Tiron2020

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I wrote above that these may be "speculative theories" about what will happen in episode 6. I myself am not sure exactly what will happen there, you can only build theories.
Besides, Red Dust is not the first developer who throws such an interesting game. I played a lot of other avn games, there were also those that were abandoned by the developers, only then they come back after 1.5 - 2 years and finish their games to the end, so that their games are just completed. There are also those who have abandoned games for many years, but these are those who released 1-2 updates in their game and after that that's it. In the case of Red Dust, he has to release episode 6, which is likely to be the last.
If he is going to release a new episode, then the approximate release date is mid-September. If not, then he will probably release episode 6 before the end of 2024.
 
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I wrote above that these may be "speculative theories" about what will happen in episode 6. I myself am not sure exactly what will happen there, you can only build theories.
Besides, Red Dust is not the first developer who throws such an interesting game. I played a lot of other avn games, there were also those that were abandoned by the developers, only then they come back after 1.5 - 2 years and finish their games to the end, so that their games are just completed. There are also those who have abandoned games for many years, but these are those who released 1-2 updates in their game and after that that's it. In the case of Red Dust, he has to release episode 6, which is likely to be the last.
If he is going to release a new episode, then the approximate release date is mid-September. If not, then he will probably release episode 6 before the end of 2024.
hopefully. I quit like the game.
 

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Well, I've played to the end of episode 5 and that was certainly a turnaround. I managed to avoid the Naomi/Mira decision by going back slightly and talking to Rose on the roof instead of Mira on the steps, although I'm mystified as to how the MC and Rose managed to have such a civilised conversation after all the rants and stupid mind games up to that point. Felt like that scene belonged to a path where they're on better terms, though I'm not sure where I could've gone onto that path... maybe if the MC took her clothes off when Rose said she could help with Mira's class fees, I dunno?

I took the friend path with Naomi. I'm glad that a reconciliation wasn't forced like I thought it might be. Becca though is either a misandrist or secretly fancies Naomi and is going full alpha. I'm half expecting her to shank the MC any time she's in a scene. Mira still seems full-throttle infatuated, though she hasn't done anything particularly Single White Female yet, so the stalker fears might be unfounded. I might've warmed to her more if she'd been less full-on right from first laying eyes on the MC. Her model seems to have weird facial expressions sometimes as well, that hasn't helped.

Damon being gay wasn't a surprise, it seemed pretty heavily signposted, though him being responsible for the MC's mother vanishing into the night was unexpected. Perhaps it shouldn't have been though. Most of the VNs I play, the MC's dudebro best-friend seems to let him down in some way. Danielle is actually tolerable, even almost sympathetic in episode 5 which was another turnaround. If she'd been more like this through the rest of the game rather than the rich bitch cliche, I probably would've been more positive towards her. Oh well.

I've realised now who Ada's been reminding me of this whole time - anyone remember the late '90s indie band, Republica? The lead singer, Saffron? Ada has that look about her. I went down her path at the end, going to the work party. Good on her for quitting, she was increasingly hating that job, maybe now she can have a fresh start. Chris is now looking less sympathetic than he was in earlier episodes, I'm starting to suspect I should've had the MC tell Ada to throw the engagement ring away.

I actually found a good potential LI at the pool party - Sienna, the more reserved dark-haired friend of Danielle's. She also has a good scene slapping Kent silly in the girls locker room. But seemingly she's not an option. Shame.

Overall, not a bad game. If the dev un-abandons this and finishes off the story (feels like episode 6 might be the last one?) I'll come back to it.

I like your rundowns of this VN Marty. And we're pretty similar in general opinion regarding all the LI's. You're right Sienna would have made a nice secret LI for any player who rejected every other (mostly damaged) girl. But that doesn't seem likely. I went Ada route too, although it was close with Mira. But i didn't get stalker vibes with Mira, i was just too weirded out by her face and couldn't get past it. Unlike you though, my MC told Ada to throw and fucking engagement ring as hard as she could. So i'm not letting her go.

Here's hoping Dev comes back for one last hurrah. (at least)
 
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I'm reading the latest comments about the end of episode 5 and I come to the conclusion that everyone absolutely hates Helen, Alexandra and Damon for deceived MC. I'm not going to comment on this, I'm just going to share my opinion about what Helen did.
Many wrote that Helen abandoned her son because she wanted to run away with her beloved Alexandra and be with her. This is partly true and mostly incorrect.
As far as we know in the game, MC mother is described as a real altruist person who always helped people, she loved her job as a psychologist, tried to do what she thought was right. Her relationship with her son was very loving and trusting (this was also confirmed by Ada's father in chapter 1 in a conversation with MС). You wonder if she really didn't care about such a relationship with her son and just leave him and run away with her lover without talking to him one last time or leaving him at least a letter in which she would explain her act. Yes, Helen made her choice, but did she have any other choice? That's where the fun begins...
During 5 episodes, we ran into Alexandra several times (some may have kissed her so that she would tell a little about herself) and you can see that she already knew about MC and wanted to meet him. During several meetings, she was friendly with him, tried to give him advice, tried to get closer to him (not in a romantic sense). Then we know that in chapter 4, after a phone conversation with Helen, Alexandra loses consciousness and the MC takes her to the hospital. There in the hospital, a doctor (a blonde girl, an acquaintance of MS) tells that she has hypoxia, and in a rather complicated form, which is why Alexandra lost consciousness not for the first time and that in the past she almost died.
I will not tell you further, but let's focus on this disease of hypoxia: Hypoxia is oxygen starvation, a condition in which tissues and organs do not receive enough oxygen to ensure that they can maintain normal functioning.
If oxygen saturation is severely impaired, irreversible destructive processes begin in the tissues, and organs gradually lose their functions. This disease can be both a common disease and a severe form of disease, which can lead to a fatal outcome of a person.
What does Alexandra have to do with it? She is suffering from a severe form of the disease!! I do not know if she will die or not, it is known that she has been ill for years and apparently takes the necessary medications and observes her health regimens. And who helps her? That's right - Helen (and Damon most likely).
After Damon brought Alexandra and Helen together, the latter found out that her lover was ill and being a real altruist, she decided to help her in all possible ways. But the problem was that her son MS might want to know who Alexandra was and how she was related to Helen. As far as we know, MS was not homophobic, but he did not share or understand same-sex relationships. It is clear that Helen was very scared after that, she was afraid that her son would not understand her, would condemn her. In all the memories where Helen was present, we saw that she was always sad or crying. I'm pretty sure that at that moment she was thinking about what she needed to do: tell her son about her past or help Alexandra, whose health was in question. I think she tried desperately to tell him, but she was also afraid of her son's condemnation, she thought that her son would reject her.
After Alexandra lost consciousness and was on the verge of death (this is from a conversation with a female doctor in Chapter 4) Helen realized that she needed to act and she made a difficult decision. She packed her things in a hurry and left the house and her son (this is from a conversation with Ada's father in chapter 1). Damon apparently promised Helen that he would look after her son and report to her about him.
That's all I wanted to write! I think this is the most likely theory that will most likely be in episode 6. If this is true, then I am personally ready to forgive Helen and Alexandra for their actions. If Helen suffered from her decision for a year, as well as her son was depressed, crying, maybe she looked after her son from afar, then she should definitely be forgiven. Helen's big fault is that she hid her past from her son and was afraid of the consequences, if she had told him everything, then MC would definitely not have turned away from his mother, on the contrary, he might have wanted to help her himself.
Therefore, in episode 6, I expect a long-awaited meeting between MC and her mother, where they will have a tense dialogue, there will definitely be accusations from MS that Helen hid secrets from him, but if all that I have listed above is true, then this will be enough for forgiveness.
Alexandra, in my opinion, is the least hated character, it was clear that she also blames herself for indirectly destroying the MS family, also despite reunions, she has a somewhat strained relationship with Helen (this is when she talked to her on the phone in chapter 4, before losing consciousness). I think she was initially against Helen helping her at all and wanted her to stay with her son.
It's more complicated with Damon here. Yes, he was carefully hiding it, trying to convince his best friend to move on. When MC and Danielle started looking for documents, he was furious, of course, but you can also see that Damon had already begun to realize that sooner or later he would have to tell his friend everything. Alexandra also pressured him (before the start of the debate in chapter 5, she looked at him quite intensely) demanding that he tell MC and Damon agreed. He wanted to tell everything after the end of the debate, but alas he did not have time.... There was that big discovery at the debate.
What Damon did, of course, was not the act of a best friend, everything would have been fine if he had not conducted this damn experiment (I mean, after Helen told him about her past, and he then found Alexandra, reunited them and wanted to test their feelings) none of this would have happened and everything in MC's life would be fine (but most likely Alexandra would have died of hypoxia sooner or later).
But despite all the bad things Damon has done, I don't consider him an absolute villain. He tried to bring MS together with Mira, stayed for the second year with his friend, tried to "bring him back to life", that is, to pull him out of depression, organized a meeting between MS and Naomi so that they could finally settle their relationship (although it was not good that he did it secretly, but it is clear that it was not easy for him). Yes, I know that many people wrote that he is in love with his best friend, but that was a year ago, that was the reason why he became Helen's patient. But over the next year, having made many mistakes, it is clear that Damon accepted that MC would not respond to him in return, he just wanted to be with his friend and correct the mistakes that he himself had made.
I think Damon deserves to be forgiven too, but he should do something heroic or just move on and not impose on MC for at least a while until he forgives him.
I also wrote earlier that episode 6 could be the final one. I'm afraid I was wrong, and I remember that back in 2022, Red Dust wrote that he planned to release 7 episodes. If his plans have not changed, then episode 7 will be the final one.
 
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I'm reading the latest comments about the end of episode 5 and I come to the conclusion that everyone absolutely hates Helen, Alexandra and Damon for deceived MC. I'm not going to comment on this, I'm just going to share my opinion about what Helen did.
Many wrote that Helen abandoned her son because she wanted to run away with her beloved Alexandra and be with her. This is partly true and mostly incorrect.
As far as we know in the game, MC mother is described as a real altruist person who always helped people, she loved her job as a psychologist, tried to do what she thought was right. Her relationship with her son was very loving and trusting (this was also confirmed by Ada's father in chapter 1 in a conversation with MС). You wonder if she really didn't care about such a relationship with her son and just leave him and run away with her lover without talking to him one last time or leaving him at least a letter in which she would explain her act. Yes, Helen made her choice, but did she have any other choice? That's where the fun begins...
During 5 episodes, we ran into Alexandra several times (some may have kissed her so that she would tell a little about herself) and you can see that she already knew about MC and wanted to meet him. During several meetings, she was friendly with him, tried to give him advice, tried to get closer to him (not in a romantic sense). Then we know that in chapter 4, after a phone conversation with Helen, Alexandra loses consciousness and the MC takes her to the hospital. There in the hospital, a doctor (a blonde girl, an acquaintance of MS) tells that she has hypoxia, and in a rather complicated form, which is why Alexandra lost consciousness not for the first time and that in the past she almost died.
I will not tell you further, but let's focus on this disease of hypoxia: Hypoxia is oxygen starvation, a condition in which tissues and organs do not receive enough oxygen to ensure that they can maintain normal functioning.
If oxygen saturation is severely impaired, irreversible destructive processes begin in the tissues, and organs gradually lose their functions. This disease can be both a common disease and a severe form of disease, which can lead to a fatal outcome of a person.
What does Alexandra have to do with it? She is suffering from a severe form of the disease!! I do not know if she will die or not, it is known that she has been ill for years and apparently takes the necessary medications and observes her health regimens. And who helps her? That's right - Helen (and Damon most likely).
After Damon brought Alexandra and Helen together, the latter found out that her lover was ill and being a real altruist, she decided to help her in all possible ways. But the problem was that her son MS might want to know who Alexandra was and how she was related to Helen. As far as we know, MS was not homophobic, but he did not share or understand same-sex relationships. It is clear that Helen was very scared after that, she was afraid that her son would not understand her, would condemn her. In all the memories where Helen was present, we saw that she was always sad or crying. I'm pretty sure that at that moment she was thinking about what she needed to do: tell her son about her past or help Alexandra, whose health was in question. I think she tried desperately to tell him, but she was also afraid of her son's condemnation, she thought that her son would reject her.
After Alexandra lost consciousness and was on the verge of death (this is from a conversation with a female doctor in Chapter 4) Helen realized that she needed to act and she made a difficult decision. She packed her things in a hurry and left the house and her son (this is from a conversation with Ada's father in chapter 1). Damon apparently promised Helen that he would look after her son and report to her about him.
That's all I wanted to write! I think this is the most likely theory that will most likely be in episode 6. If this is true, then I am personally ready to forgive Helen and Alexandra for their actions. If Helen suffered from her decision for a year, as well as MC was depressed, crying, maybe she looked after her son from afar, then she should definitely be forgiven. Helen's big fault is that she hid her past from her son and was afraid of the consequences, if she had told him everything, then MC would definitely not have turned away from his mother, on the contrary, he might have wanted to help her himself.
Therefore, in episode 6, I expect a long-awaited meeting between MC and her mother, where they will have a tense dialogue, there will definitely be accusations from MS that Helen hid secrets from him, but if all that I have listed above is true, then this will be enough for forgiveness.
Alexandra, in my opinion, is the least hated character, it was clear that she also blames herself for indirectly destroying the MS family, also despite reunions, she has a somewhat strained relationship with Helen (this is when she talked to her on the phone in chapter 4, before losing consciousness). I think she was initially against Helen helping her at all and wanted her to stay with her son.
It's more complicated with Damon here. Yes, he was carefully hiding it, trying to convince his best friend to move on. When MC and Danielle started looking for documents, he was furious, of course, but you can also see that Damon had already begun to realize that sooner or later he would have to tell his friend everything. Alexandra also pressured him (before the start of the debate in chapter 5, she looked at him quite intensely) demanding that he tell MC and Damon agreed. He wanted to tell everything after the end of the debate, but alas he did not have time.... There was that big discovery at the debate.
What Damon did, of course, was not the act of a best friend, everything would have been fine if he had not conducted this damn experiment (I mean, after Helen told him about her past, and he then found Alexandra, reunited them and wanted to test their feelings) none of this would have happened and everything in MC's life would be fine (but most likely Alexandra would have died of hypoxia sooner or later).
But despite all the bad things Damon has done, I don't consider him an absolute villain. He tried to bring MS together with Mira, stayed for the second year with his friend, tried to "bring him back to life", that is, to pull him out of depression, organized a meeting between MS and Naomi so that they could finally settle their relationship (although it was not good that he did it secretly, but it is clear that it was not easy for him). Yes, I know that many people wrote that he is in love with his best friend, but that was a year ago, that was the reason why he became Helen's patient. But over the next year, having made many mistakes, it is clear that Damon accepted that MC would not respond to him in return, he just wanted to be with his friend and correct the mistakes that he himself had made.
I think Damon deserves to be forgiven too, but he should do something heroic or just move on and not impose on MC for at least a while until he forgives him.
I also wrote earlier that episode 6 could be the final one. I'm afraid I was wrong, and I remember that back in 2022, Red Dust wrote that he planned to release 7 episodes. If his plans have not changed, then episode 7 will be the final one.
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I'm reading the latest comments about the end of episode 5 and I come to the conclusion that everyone absolutely hates Helen, Alexandra and Damon for deceived MC. I'm not going to comment on this, I'm just going to share my opinion about what Helen did.
Many wrote that Helen abandoned her son because she wanted to run away with her beloved Alexandra and be with her. This is partly true and mostly incorrect.
As far as we know in the game, MC mother is described as a real altruist person who always helped people, she loved her job as a psychologist, tried to do what she thought was right. Her relationship with her son was very loving and trusting (this was also confirmed by Ada's father in chapter 1 in a conversation with MС). You wonder if she really didn't care about such a relationship with her son and just leave him and run away with her lover without talking to him one last time or leaving him at least a letter in which she would explain her act. Yes, Helen made her choice, but did she have any other choice? That's where the fun begins...
During 5 episodes, we ran into Alexandra several times (some may have kissed her so that she would tell a little about herself) and you can see that she already knew about MC and wanted to meet him. During several meetings, she was friendly with him, tried to give him advice, tried to get closer to him (not in a romantic sense). Then we know that in chapter 4, after a phone conversation with Helen, Alexandra loses consciousness and the MC takes her to the hospital. There in the hospital, a doctor (a blonde girl, an acquaintance of MS) tells that she has hypoxia, and in a rather complicated form, which is why Alexandra lost consciousness not for the first time and that in the past she almost died.
I will not tell you further, but let's focus on this disease of hypoxia: Hypoxia is oxygen starvation, a condition in which tissues and organs do not receive enough oxygen to ensure that they can maintain normal functioning.
If oxygen saturation is severely impaired, irreversible destructive processes begin in the tissues, and organs gradually lose their functions. This disease can be both a common disease and a severe form of disease, which can lead to a fatal outcome of a person.
What does Alexandra have to do with it? She is suffering from a severe form of the disease!! I do not know if she will die or not, it is known that she has been ill for years and apparently takes the necessary medications and observes her health regimens. And who helps her? That's right - Helen (and Damon most likely).
After Damon brought Alexandra and Helen together, the latter found out that her lover was ill and being a real altruist, she decided to help her in all possible ways. But the problem was that her son MS might want to know who Alexandra was and how she was related to Helen. As far as we know, MS was not homophobic, but he did not share or understand same-sex relationships. It is clear that Helen was very scared after that, she was afraid that her son would not understand her, would condemn her. In all the memories where Helen was present, we saw that she was always sad or crying. I'm pretty sure that at that moment she was thinking about what she needed to do: tell her son about her past or help Alexandra, whose health was in question. I think she tried desperately to tell him, but she was also afraid of her son's condemnation, she thought that her son would reject her.
After Alexandra lost consciousness and was on the verge of death (this is from a conversation with a female doctor in Chapter 4) Helen realized that she needed to act and she made a difficult decision. She packed her things in a hurry and left the house and her son (this is from a conversation with Ada's father in chapter 1). Damon apparently promised Helen that he would look after her son and report to her about him.
That's all I wanted to write! I think this is the most likely theory that will most likely be in episode 6. If this is true, then I am personally ready to forgive Helen and Alexandra for their actions. If Helen suffered from her decision for a year, as well as MC was depressed, crying, maybe she looked after her son from afar, then she should definitely be forgiven. Helen's big fault is that she hid her past from her son and was afraid of the consequences, if she had told him everything, then MC would definitely not have turned away from his mother, on the contrary, he might have wanted to help her himself.
Therefore, in episode 6, I expect a long-awaited meeting between MC and her mother, where they will have a tense dialogue, there will definitely be accusations from MS that Helen hid secrets from him, but if all that I have listed above is true, then this will be enough for forgiveness.
Alexandra, in my opinion, is the least hated character, it was clear that she also blames herself for indirectly destroying the MS family, also despite reunions, she has a somewhat strained relationship with Helen (this is when she talked to her on the phone in chapter 4, before losing consciousness). I think she was initially against Helen helping her at all and wanted her to stay with her son.
It's more complicated with Damon here. Yes, he was carefully hiding it, trying to convince his best friend to move on. When MC and Danielle started looking for documents, he was furious, of course, but you can also see that Damon had already begun to realize that sooner or later he would have to tell his friend everything. Alexandra also pressured him (before the start of the debate in chapter 5, she looked at him quite intensely) demanding that he tell MC and Damon agreed. He wanted to tell everything after the end of the debate, but alas he did not have time.... There was that big discovery at the debate.
What Damon did, of course, was not the act of a best friend, everything would have been fine if he had not conducted this damn experiment (I mean, after Helen told him about her past, and he then found Alexandra, reunited them and wanted to test their feelings) none of this would have happened and everything in MC's life would be fine (but most likely Alexandra would have died of hypoxia sooner or later).
But despite all the bad things Damon has done, I don't consider him an absolute villain. He tried to bring MS together with Mira, stayed for the second year with his friend, tried to "bring him back to life", that is, to pull him out of depression, organized a meeting between MS and Naomi so that they could finally settle their relationship (although it was not good that he did it secretly, but it is clear that it was not easy for him). Yes, I know that many people wrote that he is in love with his best friend, but that was a year ago, that was the reason why he became Helen's patient. But over the next year, having made many mistakes, it is clear that Damon accepted that MC would not respond to him in return, he just wanted to be with his friend and correct the mistakes that he himself had made.
I think Damon deserves to be forgiven too, but he should do something heroic or just move on and not impose on MC for at least a while until he forgives him.
I also wrote earlier that episode 6 could be the final one. I'm afraid I was wrong, and I remember that back in 2022, Red Dust wrote that he planned to release 7 episodes. If his plans have not changed, then episode 7 will be the final one.
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What Damon did, of course, was not the act of a best friend, everything would have been fine if he had not conducted this damn experiment (I mean, after Helen told him about her past, and he then found Alexandra, reunited them and wanted to test their feelings) none of this would have happened and everything in MC's life would be fine (but most likely Alexandra would have died of hypoxia sooner or later).
But despite all the bad things Damon has done, I don't consider him an absolute villain. He tried to bring MS together with Mira, stayed for the second year with his friend, tried to "bring him back to life", that is, to pull him out of depression, organized a meeting between MS and Naomi so that they could finally settle their relationship (although it was not good that he did it secretly, but it is clear that it was not easy for him). Yes, I know that many people wrote that he is in love with his best friend, but that was a year ago, that was the reason why he became Helen's patient. But over the next year, having made many mistakes, it is clear that Damon accepted that MC would not respond to him in return, he just wanted to be with his friend and correct the mistakes that he himself had made.
I think Damon deserves to be forgiven too, but he should do something heroic or just move on and not impose on MC for at least a while until he forgives him.
Gotta disagree completely on Damon, he is a manipulative asshole who doesn't give a shit about anyone except himself. He will get no forgiveness from me. You said he tried to get MC & Mira together, and as soon as MC says I'll take Mira home, Damon declares he's doing it. Secretly contacting MC ex was dick move and hiding it, not caring how either girl will feel about another girl in MC life.

Using Danielle as a beard is a terrible thing to do if she is unaware of it, he doesn't care about her feelings.

Alexandra doesn't want him to come back to the hospital, but once again he decides he's going to do whatever the hell he wants and goes back without even considering Alex's feelings.

The one time MC does something to help him without his knowledge - he carries on a little bitch. When Danielle tries to do something to help him without his knowledge, he carries on like a little bitch. Hello, what have you been doing to everyone else and that's ok?

MC enables it though, even when Damon admits his role in MC's mother leaving, MC is not pissed at the secrets and lies, but sad that Damon is walking away. If he was my friend, he wouldn't be walking away. We'd be having out, verbally or physically. MC's constant 'I Love Damon', 'He's my best friend', 'I trust him completely'. Damon only has to look at MC, and he drops whatever he's doing and will put Damon before anyone else. He just can't see how toxic this friendship is for him.
 
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