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Daxter250

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Daxter250 then may by game you played is Defiler Wings fork by developer Arhin Mahariel.
...yep. nailed it. instantly saw it at the screenshots there.

siht, i thought it would be your game... duh. sry xD. gonna reedit some of my comments now...
 

Mercedes

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Eliont

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Mercedes

Most of images comes from Defiler Wings as is. Others taken from open sources that we seen fit to scene.

All for game to remain completely free as "wings" is.
Btw, for those saying about original content - if you want, i can release text-only version (after translation update for 1.1.1 will be done), and, if i got patrons contributions, use it to order artwork and music for new version of the game.

This game remain as is for honor of Old Huntsman.
 

The_fallen_dragon

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You had YEARS man, nobody beat you to it you just didn't try. You could've just commented on his patreon page, lmao.
Wrong, he actually never messaged me back, I had messaged him years ago on one of the porn game forums, (hongfire if I remember correctly) But I never received a reply so I never went forward with it. Simple as that, the OP says he got the original creator approval simply means he was able to get a response back before I ever did so that is that.
 

Wilown

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I don't get how to spawn different monsters? I only have lizardmen even with rank 10 cores.
 

Yiu113

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Btw, for those saying about original content - if you want, i can release text-only version (after translation update for 1.1.1 will be done), and, if i got patrons contributions, use it to order artwork and music for new version of the game.

This game remain as is for honor of Old Huntsman.
I'm going to be very frank, since I liked Defiler Wings a lot and I honestly want you to do well with this. Keep in mind a lot of this is my point of view; it might not be 100% the truth.

When people play a game where they play a big, monstrous dragon who can violate all of the damsels everywhere, they don't want to see some random dude doing it. Or tentacles doing it, or whatever. They're interested in seeing art of a dragon railing something and putting themselves in the place of the dragon.

This doesn't have that. There's very, very little art where the dragon's doing stuff, with the vast majority being tentacles or random dudes. That, combined with the randomly taken art of multiple styles, combined with the difficult to understand new system, just makes for an unpleasant experience all around.

Pick one consistent art style to use, use stuff where it's actually what's happening, and make the systems more clear, and this might turn out to be a good game. As it stands, it's... well, not.
 

Eliont

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being tentacles or random dudes
This is dragon too, as it being "D-03-109-1 Melting Love" from "Object X-394".

Btw, about monster cores and pregnancy:
Girls now can give birth more then once, but every birth has a chance to be letal.
Chance increased with each birth, though viras can prevent girl death, but damages her hp instead by itself (and girl can die from this).

Pregnancy count should be displayed in unit stats window.
 

Dom1anon

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Wrong, he actually never messaged me back, I had messaged him years ago on one of the porn game forums, (hongfire if I remember correctly) But I never received a reply so I never went forward with it. Simple as that, the OP says he got the original creator approval simply means he was able to get a response back before I ever did so that is that.
Just asking once on one forum is a pretty dumb idea and all it shows is that you didn't really try.
That's the charitable interpretation at least.
 
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Evangelion-01

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Just asking once on one forum is a pretty dumb idea and all it shows is that you didn't really try.
That's the charitable interpretation at least.
While I agree that askeing on a Forum the Dev didn't even visited isn't enough, how come you talk down on him from up there?
Just let it rest unless you have a similiar story with more success (i.e. talkeing to the dev but failing getting approval)
 

Dom1anon

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While I agree that askeing on a Forum the Dev didn't even visited isn't enough, how come you talk down on him from up there?
Just let it rest unless you have a similiar story with more success (i.e. talkeing to the dev but failing getting approval)
Because going in here to complain that somebody took his dream project and did a bad job when he put the absolute minimum possible effort to get approval despite claiming that that was the only thing that kept him from doing it himself is both a dick-move and dumb.
And yes, I've been in contact with other creators in the past and still am with several for their projects, it's not that difficult. Pretty sure I even commented on OHM's patreon page once a long time ago and got a reply back with lots of weird russian )))))) emojis.
I "talk down on him" because he deserves it, frankly.
 

Evangelion-01

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Because going in here to complain that somebody took his dream project and did a bad job when he put the absolute minimum possible effort to get approval despite claiming that that was the only thing that kept him from doing it himself is both a dick-move and dumb.
And yes, I've been in contact with other creators in the past and still am with several for their projects, it's not that difficult. Pretty sure I even commented on OHM's patreon page once a long time ago and got a reply back with lots of weird russian )))))) emojis.
I "talk down on him" because he deserves it, frankly.
Again I don't agree with him comeing here and claiming "I intended to this aswell and as a much better job, but..."
And we are not talkeing about holdeing contact to any developers... I have a few myself .
I ask why YOU feel entitled to do this... this would be Eliont's just cause not yours...
But enough of this we have derailed this young thread long enough.
 

czertik

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after some time i deleted this game, it have interesing theme but still need a LOT of work, especialy to improving gui, some bugfixing and especialy translations.
 

The_fallen_dragon

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Because going in here to complain that somebody took his dream project
Except I

1. Wasn't complaining, just found it interesting someone else got the ok.

2. Wasn't my dream project.

While I could probably giving the benefit of the doubt understand why someone thought my statement was complaining that someone else is doing it. Assuming this is my dream project is stretching further than mr fantastic...

I have no anger, hatred, or wtfe else emotion you seem to imagine that I'm having right now. Hell, even the think I said, wasn't even directed at the dev or even that unique to myself. Seems more like you're just making a mountain out of a molehill.
 

Dom1anon

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I ask why YOU feel entitled to do this... this would be Eliont's just cause not yours...
There's no entitlement here because you don't need to have a right or earn it to tell somebody who's making bad excuses that they're bad. There's no reason why a neutral observer shouldn't be able to say "hey, that's dumb."
Seems more like you're just making a mountain out of a molehill.
It would have stopped then and there after the first post if you wouldn't have felt the need to make bad excuses for your failure and pretend writing a guy a message on a forum he's not very active on means anything.

Actually related: 440417_bg_archimonde_introduce.jpg
Wtf?
 
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Flecc

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I like defiler wings still go back to it from time to time,But this game in my honest opinion is a complete mess. Inconsistent images looks like they have just been ripped from somewhere else ,Incomplete translation,Menu's just randomly clicking stuff to see what works.I'm afraid this does not do the original game justice and needs a lot of work to even become half the game defiler wings is

I wish you the best of luck with your project.but not for me in it's present state ill stick with the original Defiler wings
 

TobyxXx

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Okay tried it but there is a few things that bug me:

*keep in mind that it is my own opinion and that it is not an universal truth*

! mild spoiler alert !

The modification of the story : it's a rework of the original game where "most" of the story is kept. Why does the Mother go in an alternate world to bring a slime which is then blocked in being a dragon. why not keeping the breeding with the Mother part if being a slime doesnt add anything ?
And why the alternate ending ? in my first game i was breeding girls to make my self an army and my dragon was powerful enough to handle himself in most battle and out of nowhere an event start and i get an ending ... i just started to enjoy my game and grasp the new mechanics and boom ending, and a "good" one at that, i won the game by mistake...

The new gameplay mechanics : there is a lot of them and a lot to say about it.
Now the dragon is a slime so he doesnt have to go back to the mother and breed to evolve he just need biomass and exp, okay but why ? like i said above the part of being a slime is pulled out of your ass and change one of the key mechanic in the game. Why not keeping the old system ?
The new lair micro-management probably explain the choice above but then again i feel like it is too much complicated ... you had 6 way to fortify your lair (fortification, traps, magical traps, poisonous guard, guards and elite guards) plus the keepers and you had at least 9 lair with different size, i believe that was enough. Now you have one lair that you can expand but you have to build everything in it (and by the way the first girl you capture and imprison starve while you sleep ? because you cant have guard by then) and fill everything with guards or prisonners.
The way you have new minions ... girls that you rape and imprison become your most fervent supporter in a week or two (thats some strong Stockholm shit) and then fight for you (but you cant breed them anymore). Every girls birth monster cores that you need to put in an autel to make a monster appear ... seem complicated for me even more since there is no explanation in game about that, you just have to try stuff to understand. The corruption system is messy at best and the army of darkness start to look like the army of waifu. Again the old system where the class of the girl and your magical level determine the monster she birth feel easyer.
Pauverty in the kingdom seem to go up way faster, in just 10 or something attack i dont find any more village in the plains.
I like the new fighting system but not the fact that you can bring people with you ... you are a dragon ! you dont need any one to fight !

And lastly the art : Old huntsman Game are already a mess with it because he "steal" it on the net and adding 3D model in it is a mistake, stay 2D or go full 3D dont stay in the middle (and those 3D model are ugly as fuck).

To conclude that wall of text, most of the change in the game are not introduced at all and make it weird for someone that know defiler wings. The mission that your Mother give you serve as a "tutorial" in the original game and i believe that with a little rework around them you can introduce the new feature smoothly and make the whole experience more enjoyable.
Time for Dragon feel like a mod of Defiler Wings and not a reboot.
There is a few place where there is nothing written (milkfactory thing for example) and a full translation in english would be nice (i dont speak russian and i'm not a native english speaker so cant really help)
I hope that you make a "Time for Dragons 2" in which all your idee are well implemented and you have an artist who work with you.


Keep up the work and bring us the game that you have in your mind !
 
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