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Seems like most of what's left of this thread are NTR fans, and people obsessed with Bacon for god knows why. Saw this coming with the last update, at least the first game was great.
- Sep 3, 2016
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Mostly for fun. But these type of reactions adds even more unplanned fun.
Why do all the anti NTR people have to be so serious ?
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I'm really sorry that i'm expressing my wishes openly..It will never happen ever again..
- Sep 22, 2017
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For me the less scenes with bacon, the better. I really don't like the character after playing through Veronika's story. But as I said as long as it's all optional, you won't see me complaining.
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That all depends on how much more time you have to spend rendering the scenes if it causes the time between updates to be longer well.........
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- Sep 28, 2018
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The thing with the anti-NTR people is there isn't any NTR in this game, or the last one. But the last one had a better argument. Gaz gave a guy a HJ in a motel room in the last game, and I don't recall anyone saying anything about it. She was also a prostitute and now a stripper. I mean seriously, what do people think she does all day when MC isn't around?
I agree that the Bacon stuff is mostly for fun, but some people are very sensitive to pork evidently.
I really hope that this upcoming exploring will include some kind of agreement for a "ménage à trois" relationship between Mc , Bacon and Gaz
If only it could be with Mc, Bacon and Maureen.
There is a very insecure, possessive vibe that I get from the real hardcore anti-NTR crowd. It borders on creepy sometimes.The thing with the anti-NTR people is there isn't any NTR in this game, or the last one. But the last one had a better argument. Gaz gave a guy a HJ in a motel room in the last game, and I don't recall anyone saying anything about it. She was also a prostitute and now a stripper. I mean seriously, what do people think she does all day when MC isn't around?
I agree that the Bacon stuff is mostly for fun, but some people are very sensitive to pork evidently.
I can completely understand not wanting NTR when it comes to cheating and lying. Games are what I play for fun and having to go through that sort of stuff is not my cup of tea. But when the definition of NTR ridiculously expands out to LI sharing or just straight up other encounters outside of the MC, even if the MC and LI are clearly not in a relationship, ya lost me. In fact, I find having LI have other encounters to be additive to a realistic narrative; that is often how life actually works. If you are not in a clearly-defined relationship with something, there is absolutely no reason you should expect them to be only with you. And if you do, you are just setting yourself up for major self-inflicted pain.
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It's the immersion + the fantasy. The thing is though, when you immerse yourself into a fantasy you don't notice things that go against that fantasy but when you do finally notice you get really animated about it. It ruined the fantasy.
The thing that made people flip (Bacon lap dance) is tame compared to other things in the game.
- Gaz is a prostitute turned stripper. Come on now, what do people think she does all day? She does sexual things for money.
- Heather works at the club and probably wants to bang her son. She probably does the same stuff Gaz does.
- Mrs. J has sex with both MC and the dad.
- Nika got teleported to the future, what are the odds she never did anything sexual for a couple decades?
The other side-girls are all different levels of slutty too. Why did nobody notice this? Because it goes against the fantasy. It took Bacon getting a lap dance right in front of them to finally burst their bubbles.
The only girl that might be close to "Pure" is Maureen, who is also the only girl officially in a relationship with MC.
I've said it previously, but for the most part the girls in this game are all slutty and the boys are all perverts. What happens when you get a bunch of sluts and pervs together? Hmmm...
I myself also don't like NTR, but only with someone like for example Mrs. Julia. I don't know but, even while playing as a fictional character with a fictional 'LandLord' (wink, wink), I don't get turned on by the thought of someone else screwing them.
And I don't like Bacon either lol.
But I agree that some of the Anti-NTR people need to chill. As a wise man once said "is only game, why you have to be mad?"
Well, seeing all the Bacon taunts and the history of such matters on the forum, it was expected that the situation would start to escalate...
- Sep 3, 2016
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I wish devs could have precise stats showing what percentage of their paid customers are hardcore anti-NTR people. They're very vocal, but I don't think they are that many. If devs could see that these people amount to 2% of their revenue, then they could say "fuck it" and do whatever they want. I'm sick of seeing devs being limited in their creativity because of these people.
Devs are already limited because of stupid Patreon rules about incest, and other rules like "everyone is 18" or 2D/3D art suddenly becomes more or less equal to real pedo shit in the mind of the degenerates making the rules at Patreon.
If someone decides to fuck his mom or his daughter irl, it's not because of a fucking game, it's because they are heartless cunts. Just like if someone decides to jump from a building wearing a cape, it's not because of the Superman movies, it's because this person has a mental problem.
But on the other hand, and to borrow from a comedian (who said it better than me), I know society has to work like this, and that's why there are speed limits on the roads, because even if 95% of people could drive very fast without crashing, some guy will kill 4 people with his car so everyone has to respect the speed limit.
Still, I wish these rules wouldn't apply to fictionnal characters and universes. And to go back to the topic of sexual fictions : there were sexual deviants of all kinds way before there were games, movies, or even books. So what's the use of these rules besides expressing a puritan way of thinking ? What's the point of making 2D/3D porn almost "family friendly" ? Porn, especially when it's just drawings or 3D renders, exists to express stuff you wouldn't/couldn't experience irl, just like Sci-fi, fantasy or horror games/movies : it's a form of escapism. So why should sexual fictions have to be tame, when everything is allowed when it's about violence ?
TL;DR : USA applying their dumb rules (sex is bad, killing people with guns is cool) to the entire world is fucking annoying. And I bet most of the anti NTR people are from the US. But I'm probably just mean spirited.
Write an essay of ~8000 words about this, and show all the pros and cons.
Use the word "Bacon" at least 3 times for bonus points.
Devs are already limited because of stupid Patreon rules about incest, and other rules like "everyone is 18" or 2D/3D art suddenly becomes more or less equal to real pedo shit in the mind of the degenerates making the rules at Patreon.
If someone decides to fuck his mom or his daughter irl, it's not because of a fucking game, it's because they are heartless cunts. Just like if someone decides to jump from a building wearing a cape, it's not because of the Superman movies, it's because this person has a mental problem.
But on the other hand, and to borrow from a comedian (who said it better than me), I know society has to work like this, and that's why there are speed limits on the roads, because even if 95% of people could drive very fast without crashing, some guy will kill 4 people with his car so everyone has to respect the speed limit.
Still, I wish these rules wouldn't apply to fictionnal characters and universes. And to go back to the topic of sexual fictions : there were sexual deviants of all kinds way before there were games, movies, or even books. So what's the use of these rules besides expressing a puritan way of thinking ? What's the point of making 2D/3D porn almost "family friendly" ? Porn, especially when it's just drawings or 3D renders, exists to express stuff you wouldn't/couldn't experience irl, just like Sci-fi, fantasy or horror games/movies : it's a form of escapism. So why should sexual fictions have to be tame, when everything is allowed when it's about violence ?
TL;DR : USA applying their dumb rules (sex is bad, killing people with guns is cool) to the entire world is fucking annoying. And I bet most of the anti NTR people are from the US. But I'm probably just mean spirited.
Write an essay of ~8000 words about this, and show all the pros and cons.
Use the word "Bacon" at least 3 times for bonus points.
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I really wish people would stop using this fucking reasoning does that mean every vn/game is uncreative if it doesn't have ntr
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