JC07

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I think there’s no problem when patrons desires don’t affect the game and the story
Well, depending on how it's implemented, even in-game it doesn't bother me (totally avoidable, so that if I choose I'll never see or hear about it or change the story later), the problem is when that "loophole" starts to turn into a crack, then a crater.

A well-known dev here started to put some non- canônico scenes inside the game as a form of a secret gallery, then people stumbled on it and saw the shit that happened right?

But as I said in a post above, it's your game and don't let anyone tell you otherwise, if you like it go for it, if not, don't go there. I understand that recognition in the form of money is good. But don't whore yourself out, do what you like, you'll get publicity for whatever you decide to do.

But if I can give you a hint it's, thinks about it, they'll ask for a random scene, then a special Christmas scene, until it gets to the point where they'll ask you to make it canonical. And that's clearly going to alienate the other side, if only because it's hard to get an anti-NTR supporter with ntr in the game, even if it's not canon.
 

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Well, depending on how it's implemented, even in-game it doesn't bother me (totally avoidable, so that if I choose I'll never see or hear about it or change the story later), the problem is when that "loophole" starts to turn into a crack, then a crater.

A well-known dev here started to put some non- canônico scenes inside the game as a form of a secret gallery, then people stumbled on it and saw the shit that happened right?

But as I said in a post above, it's your game and don't let anyone tell you otherwise, if you like it go for it, if not, don't go there. I understand that recognition in the form of money is good. But don't whore yourself out, do what you like, you'll get publicity for whatever you decide to do.

But if I can give you a hint it's, thinks about it, they'll ask for a random scene, then a special Christmas scene, until it gets to the point where they'll ask you to make it canonical. And that's clearly going to alienate the other side, if only because it's hard to get an anti-NTR supporter with ntr in the game, even if it's not canon.
I hope I have the strength to tell the story I made up. With the ending I came up with and changing the characters. Thanks for the understanding comment
 

TiffanyMonroe

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He is either new or simply "thick". I played it and gave feedback and I hope dev didn't take it as a way to persuade or insult because that wasn't the intention. I just made it clear that the face design of the MC did not please me, I have 30-something years and even play some games with MC "shota", then the problem is not even look young, is the face was very childish (in my humble opinion).

But I did not go to evaluate the game because the appearance of the MC did not please me. This is my problem and mine alone (some may agree with me.... but...). Unlike some people who will rate games for their personal opinions.

A friend of mine is developing the game and we are Brazilian and we don't speak English, so the translation is through translation apps, so it won't be perfect. Some people played it and gave it two stars because of the translation. Then I ask, wouldn't it be better for him to offer help in this area since he is so good at English?

What I mean is, that I gave feedback with the intention of "helping" the dev, it is up to him to take it into consideration or not. Will I be upset if he totally ignores me? no, it's his game and he does with it as he pleases. Am I gonna play? Maybe later, now it didn't appeal to me much, for reasons I've already mentioned. But one thing I know I won't do, since I can't "help", hinder or sabotage your work is that I won't.

So people, do as Dev does, ignore my feedback, it is in no way a form of offense, if it seemed like it, sincere apologies.
For someone that doesn't speak English, your English is better than most on this forum. :KEK:
 
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LazyKeks

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So, am I understanding correctly that:
MC's name cannot be changed.
NTR content will be possible.
Dev said that the content will be added according to the wishes of the Patreons.
 

Antonie van Leeuwenhoek

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Umm who is this? And why isn't he the mc
This could well might be one of those games who likes to play borderline in trying to please everyone. If there ain't any fire that doesn't mean smoke won't kill you... you know what i mean. I wonder what might be the reason behind mc who looks like someone became male overnight with few dose of i.m testosterone but male features are yet appear.
 

Kukipett

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Why do i have to play with that little shit as MC, a drunk stupid young guy who just should climb on the roof and just try the leap of faith just to see if he will survive the crash on the walkway 30 meters lower!
Maybe then the gods will save him and put his soul in the body of a big tits big ass MILF who loves BBC !:ROFLMAO:
I kow i'm not a patron but maybe i still can suggest something more funny... no ?
 

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I think there’s no problem when patrons desires don’t affect the game and the story
Mentioning wasn't even necessary, if it's not to be in the game. Adding non-game scenes to a game's gallery, will put off a lot of people who only play games with the gallery. Just my 2cents.

But, my words don't mean shit, as I'm not playing the game, nor will I. For me, I like to immerse myself into a game and I can't do that with a midget. So, take my advice above with a grain of salt. I wish you well on your game.
 
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ChiroNNeco

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In what update will the "Futa/Trans" category be included in the story? I'm looking forward to this because it looks like someone needs to learn from such a strong character. :)
 

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"Goal in life can be lost in just one evening. You can also find one just the same. Will Amon become a puppet in the hands of gods, or does he have a different destiny ?"

This really tells us absolutely nothing about the game, and honestly when I read it I think this is going to be a boring game with bad dialogue. I suggest having a native English speaker who has played the game assist with rewriting the overview.
 

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I'm all for offending people who 'play' games with the gallery.
I get onto a couple that I know do it. :ROFLMAO: But, still, not a good look. There are a few that I know who check the gallery to see if the game is for them. If they see that shit, it doesn't matter if the game has it or not, it will deter them from becoming a patron. Dev needs to keep the cuckery for his patrons that like it. But, as I said, my opinion means fuck-all.
 

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NTR will not be in the game itself. NTR scenes can appear only in the non-canonical gallery and for posts on Patreon. This tag will not be for the main story. Only additional materials at the request of patrons
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Dev do what you want, it's your story, but I recommend you put the future tags in the OP in the "Genre Spoiler" section and some information about them in "Dev notes" if they are avoidable (that the player prevents from happening according to choices ) or skippable (they happen but the player doesn't see them) because if it's in the OP, everyone can see it, instead a comment is lost, there are people who don't read 2 comments before theirs (don't even think they'll go to look at the previous page :LUL:.)

As for the ntr not being canonical, the thread will receive the tag anyway and many people simply avoid games with certain tags, but as I said, it is better to leave an info about it in the OP, you avoid a lot of discussion when said content appears .

Leaving that aside, from what I could understand in a comment,are some sexual scenes or LI's going to be forced in the main story?
 

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The problem comes when the unknown is something that can hurt people. A clear example here in these games and that everyone knows (at least those who have some time here on the forum) is the NTR.
How can a game hurt people? I understand that there could be very some fragile people with specific mental issues that cannot distinguish fiction from reality, but why are we supposed to protect their feelings sacrificing our experience and the artistic and innovative value of a product?

And any comparision between AVN and books/films/porn vids are IMO useless. You wouldn't compare bycycles and cars either.
A VN is totally comparable to a book or a film. I don't expect a book or a film to follow all my espectations regarding the plot, instead, I appreciate an original finale or plot twist (but many don't, that's why many films all look the same and are very predictable). As I can immerse in the narrative plot following (or partially guiding, as in a VN) the MC, I understand that I'm not him so any consequence does not reflect to me. If I did, I think I'll better quit and consult a psychiatrist, not before having a reality check that my cock is not 30 cm as the MC's.
 

JC07

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How can a game hurt people? I understand that there could be very some fragile people with specific mental issues that cannot distinguish fiction from reality, but why are we supposed to protect their feelings sacrificing our experience and the artistic and innovative value of a product?


A VN is totally comparable to a book or a film. I don't expect a book or a film to follow all my espectations regarding the plot, instead, I appreciate an original finale or plot twist (but many don't, that's why many films all look the same and are very predictable). As I can immerse in the narrative plot following (or partially guiding, as in a VN) the MC, I understand that I'm not him so any consequence does not reflect to me. If I did, I think I'll better quit and consult a psychiatrist, not before having a reality check that my cock is not 30 cm as the MC's.
Well, we're a little off-topic here, but come on...

From what I understand from your comments (again, I'm not fluent in English), you're the kind of reader who doesn't mix your feelings with the characters. While a lot of people here do that. It is not to think you're a pixel 3d with 30cm stick or anything like that, but people (me) sympathize with the MC, mix my feelings with those of the character, it makes a gameplay something "special" for me. This is why I don't compare VN to books or movies, you won't be able to make that stupid character from the horror movie not go down that path of death. In VN yes, depending on the Dev and the game (if it is not a kinetic game) yes you can make it not enter the door where is the killer. So I find the VN a "charm" too much. So I play them.

And as for why you should care about the feelings of "fragile" people or mental problems. This demonstrates your level of empathy with others, I prefer to care about their feelings over apathetic people. Since I know they won't care about mine too.

This inquiry of yours about worrying about other people's feelings leads me to a simple idea. You as a store owner can never force anyone to buy your products, especially if you have a unique to sell, for example, milk. But you can provide options to your customers to attract more quantity and diverse tastes, for example, soy milk, zero lactose, skimmed...You will not and cannot force a person with lactose intolerance to drink normal milk (it would be a crime). But I also understand that I can not force a seller to sell a product that he does not want, for example, buying tires for my car in a pharmacy.

Edit: I kind of didn't answer, I'll try to make it clearer. If I were a developer, I would have to ask myself the following question, what do I want to achieve with my project? Do I want recognition in the community? I want to reach as many fans and players as possible? I want a good financial return? So for that, I have to see what people like and leave optional the things that many may not like, and that includes restricting my artistic and innovative talents.
Or not at all, I want to tell my story, my way, with my tastes (MC name, MC profile, MC face, game fetishes) to people with similar tastes to mine. I don't care about anything else but that. Then I go and do the things I want to do, releasing all my artistic and innovative potential (although in the first option I could also do that, right?).
So I think that kind of thinking the dev should do before creating something, after you find your answer, create your game according to the answer you found and label it accordingly and let people know what you intend to do. PPCStudio half that already answered, this argument is not against him. He could only make it clearer in the OP.

But that's it, I'm already rambling here.
 
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BlasKyau

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I see domination (male and female) among the tags. It would be nice to know if they can be avoided.

And among the future tags I see: Futa/trans, bdsm, sleep sex, which I also prefer to know if I can avoid them. It would also be nice to know if the MC or anyone else is going to force/rape any girls (including into this things the non-consensual sleep sex, in my personal opinion). If I can't avoid this things (rapes) I always quit the game, so I prefer to know it before trying the game.

Amen. Totally agree. It's not possible that every game has people pretending the developer to accomodate their preferences. People should accept artistic freedom from the authors, and let they forge their vision. I also don't like to be spoiled too much about a game before playing it. Obviously I want to know if the MC is gay or not, but all the other things should be discovered in the story (incest, NTR, cheating, kind of sex). I would simply stop playing if I don't like. But I find more exciting not knowing if I can bang everyone without consequences or if MC's girlfriend would cheat if neglected, cheated or mistreated. It's like reading a book or viewing a film already knowing what's gonna happen. It's not that engaging.
Some picture previews and a brief introduction to the story could be enough to capture my interest, but I understand you need tags for the search feature.
That could be fine, except that I, for example, never invest in games that have NTR or sharing, avoidable or not (canon or not); I can play them if it's avoidable, but I'm not going to spend my money on them. And another thing that I need to invest in the game is that it's harem, that is, the MC can end the game having a relationship with all the LIs at the same time and that they know and accept it.

Of course I have more criteria but these two must always be met for me to decide to spend money on a game.

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A VN is totally comparable to a book or a film. I don't expect a book or a film to follow all my espectations regarding the plot, instead, I appreciate an original finale or plot twist (but many don't, that's why many films all look the same and are very predictable). As I can immerse in the narrative plot following (or partially guiding, as in a VN) the MC, I understand that I'm not him so any consequence does not reflect to me. If I did, I think I'll better quit and consult a psychiatrist, not before having a reality check that my cock is not 30 cm as the MC's.
I guess you've never played RPGs (like D&D), in which case you would know the different experience you can have between a VN (where you choose, even if it's limited options) and a book (where you don't choose anything).
 
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