RPGM Tower of Trample [v1.18.0.4 + Standalone SC3] [Bo Wei/Koda]

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donkus

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>People only criticize Koda in two ways
Debunked here in my second paragraph
>Criticisms about Koda's writing aren't applicable because they're being made while comparing him to someone whose writing wouldn't fit into ToT
a) Koda conceded about half of my criticisms of his writing, and me comparing him to Thresh was just like one or two points out of six or eight that I brought up, you go ahead and dig that post up if you want the exact numbers
b) I'm having a friendly discussion with Holefiller about this right now because he has actually played through MGD, and seems generally more intelligent than you are

Also I find it funny that you replaced your silly wojak meme for some generic anime girl one after the awful reception that it got. At least stick to your guns dude lol

And lastly, "you have no argument" is not an argument.

>a) Koda conceded about half of my criticisms of his writing, and me comparing him to Thresh was just like one or two points out of six or eight that I brought up, you go ahead and dig that post up if you want the exact numbers

My post was about his writing and how it fits into the game and that Koda's role wasn't that of a being solely a programmer and that his primary issue was that of delaying updates.

>b) I'm having a friendly discussion with Holefiller about this right now because he has actually played through MGD, and seems generally more intelligent than you are

>Dude ad-hominems lmao
Firstly, keep your assumptions to yourself. Secondly, having a visual medium constricts descriptive narratives.

>Also I find it funny that you replaced your silly wojak meme for some generic anime girl one after the awful reception that it got. At least stick to your guns dude lol

>dude non-sequitur lmao

And lastly, ""you have no argument" is not an argument" is not an argument.
 
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olorex11

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>except the one whefe she put her foot in your mouth

How could koda drop the ball this hard, see you guys late august when jester drops
I know I'm too was found of that one, also he didn't reuse the sweaty-bra stockined foot in your face while flaunting her very perky and young bosom in the air handjobbing Ethan one. Truly a sad reality we live in.
 

Edison Liu

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I just want to make sure I'm right with what I'm saying; the content for Lily is basically her submission route until she takes you out for a walk in front of the other members of her dojo, the two puppy scenes and whatever the level drain scenes may be, because currently level draining is bugged. Is that right? If so, it's really a disappointment for how much images they reused for Lily, due to the fact that she is my favorite. The only new CG that I saw was in her latex suit, when she tramples on your face with one boot and one foot and traps Ethan's dick between her thighs. Sad.
 

renzur

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I hope the discord isn't praising Koda for his work on this update, cause if they do, he will keep doing the mass delays and will put in the bare minimum of the promised update.
 
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GearlessJoe

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My post was about his writing and how it fits into the game and that Koda's role wasn't that of a being solely a programmer.
>Completely ignoring half of my argument and moving the goalposts
The part of your original post that I took issue with was obviously the one I quoted here, I feel like this should be obvious.
Oh well, here we go again.
The fact that Koda delays the updates is known to everyone, but that is the only primary critique of him. The others are purely superficial and rely on comparing his writing to others which wouldn't be applicable in the game at all.
This is factually incorrect. Not only are there many more criticisms of Koda, but the criticisms about his writing aren't even limited to comparisons being made between him and other writers. I'm still waiting for you to retract this dumb statement of yours.
>Dude ad-hominems lmao
Firstly, keep your assumptions to yourself. Secondly, having a visual medium constricts descriptive narratives.
My assumption that you haven't played MGD at length is a pretty safe one to make because you seem to be under the impression that all writing in that game is "pure descriptive" like you put it, when in fact, like I was discussing with Holefiller, many segments of that game have more psychological, mindgamey stuff that wouldn't feel out of place in one of Koda's expansions. As for the ad-hom, how rich is it that you're complaining about it after having written this beforehand:
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME. HOW DARE YOU? YOU'RE PROBABLY STUPID AND HAVEN'T PLAYED THE GAME LMAO
is not criticism and if you believe it to be so, then here is my reply to you.

*triggered wojak meme*
Which leads us to...
>dude non-sequitur lmao
I know, I was just clowning on you.
And lastly, ""you have no argument" is not an argument" is not an argument.
Ah, I knew the irony would be lost on you, which is why I ended up deleting that last part... Thanks for living up to my expectations.
 

jekkeC

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so far have played your game a fwew times .

and i had this taught that you might make it that after al our hard work /grind we get the option to turn the tables on the ladies.
so we can be the one to finaly dominate them.

it would give room for lots of new content plus a hefty upgrade in people interested no?
 

scoobzz

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so far have played your game a fwew times .

and i had this taught that you might make it that after al our hard work /grind we get the option to turn the tables on the ladies.
so we can be the one to finaly dominate them.

it would give room for lots of new content plus a hefty upgrade in people interested no?
There's like; 238,472,349 maledom games and 11 femdom games. The people interested in maledom shouldn't be playing this game whatsoever.
 

donkus

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>Completely ignoring half of my argument and moving the goalposts
The part of your original post that I took issue with was obviously the one I quoted here, I feel like this should be obvious.
Oh well, here we go again.

This is factually incorrect. Not only are there many more criticisms of Koda, but the criticisms about his writing aren't even limited to comparisons being made between him and other writers. I'm still waiting for you to retract this dumb statement of yours.

My assumption that you haven't played MGD at length is a pretty safe one to make because you seem to be under the impression that all writing in that game is "pure descriptive" like you put it, when in fact, like I was discussing with Holefiller, many segments of that game have more psychological, mindgamey stuff that wouldn't feel out of place in one of Koda's expansions. As for the ad-hom, how rich is it that you're complaining about it after having written this beforehand:

Which leads us to...

I know, I was just clowning on you.

Ah, I knew the irony would be lost on you, which is why I ended up deleting that last part... Thanks for living up to my expectations.
>This is factually incorrect. Not only are there many more criticisms of Koda.

The major criticisms of his relates to the delays.

>but the criticisms about his writing aren't even limited to comparisons being made between him and other writers. I'm still waiting for you to retract this dumb statement of yours.

I'd like you to state which relate solely to his writing and do not in any way pertain to the story or of being forced into certain situations.

>My assumption that you haven't played MGD at length is a pretty safe one to make because you seem to be under the impression that all writing in that game is "pure descriptive" like you put it, when in fact, like I was discussing with Holefiller, many segments of that game have more psychological, mindgamey stuff that wouldn't feel out of place in one of Koda's expansions. As for the ad-hom, how rich is it that you're complaining about it after having written this beforehand:

Do you understand what "primarily" means? MGD is primarily descriptive. In this sense, you could call ToT devoid of all description as well.

>As for the ad-hom, how rich is it that you're complaining about it after having written this beforehand:
It's mocking your post for being what it is: hollow and without any actual critique.
 
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GearlessJoe

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>This is factually incorrect. Not only are there many more criticisms of Koda.

The major criticisms of his relates to the delays.

>but the criticisms about his writing aren't even limited to comparisons being made between him and other writers. I'm still waiting for you to retract this dumb statement of yours.

I'd like you to state which relate solely to his writing and do not in any way pertain to the story or of being forced into certain situations.

>My assumption that you haven't played MGD at length is a pretty safe one to make because you seem to be under the impression that all writing in that game is "pure descriptive" like you put it, when in fact, like I was discussing with Holefiller, many segments of that game have more psychological, mindgamey stuff that wouldn't feel out of place in one of Koda's expansions. As for the ad-hom, how rich is it that you're complaining about it after having written this beforehand:

Do you understand what "primarily" means? MGD is primarily descriptive. In this sense, you could call ToT descriptive as well.

>As for the ad-hom, how rich is it that you're complaining about it after having written this beforehand:
It's mocking your post for being what it is: hollow and without any actual critique.
Look at this dood trying to weasel out of his dumb statement.
It's obvious what you meant when you said there's only one "primary critique" of Koda. You weren't saying "The thing that bothers people the most about Koda are his delays", like you are now pretending. What you meant to say was "If you take the delays out of the equation, Koda is an outstanding developer", this is clear as day. In your next sentence, "The others [critiques] are purely superficial and rely on comparing his writing to others which wouldn't be applicable in the game at all.", you completely ignore the other major issues that people have with Koda as a developer not pertaining to his writing... Almost like to you there aren't any (because you weren't aware of them, yikes).
All you have to do now is admit this and go on your merry way, but you seem to be too stubborn to take the L, so we'll just have to argue in circles until the end of time.
 

donkus

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Look at this dood trying to weasel out of his dumb statement.
It's obvious what you meant when you said there's only one "primary critique" of Koda. You weren't saying "The thing that bothers people the most about Koda are his delays", like you are now pretending. What you meant to say was "If you take the delays out of the equation, Koda is an outstanding developer", this is clear as day. In your next sentence, "The others [critiques] are purely superficial and rely on comparing his writing to others which wouldn't be applicable in the game at all.", you completely ignore the other major issues that people have with Koda as a developer not pertaining to his writing... Almost like to you there aren't any (because you weren't aware of them, yikes).
I should have used "or" there, but the fact still remains that his main issue is that of delaying the game or that which relate to the act of delaying the game, and, at least to me, most of his critiques, not pertaining to the aforementioned issues, are superficial.
 
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GearlessJoe

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Found my original critique of Koda's writing for anyone that's interested. Also highlighted the only parts donkus in engaging with for the lulz
Koda is only a good writer if you compare him to other porn game writers, most of which barely speak English.
I don't know which parts of the story were written by him and which by Bo, but ToT's story is full of unexplained stuff and crap you'd see out of a shounen anime (and a mediocre one at that). I'm willing to bet Koda is partly responsible for this because of his obsession with power levels. Remember that time he kept rambling about his favourite girl's obscene power level?
Ethan said it best right here:
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Koda's obvious favoritism towards Cobra is also a good indicator that he's not a great writer.
All the girls are very one-note, their expansions don't change their one-dimensionality. They all have the same goal of wanting to dominate young boys, and their motivations are either really dumb or non-existent.
Also the idea that every girl is secretly super powerful and they're just letting Ethan pass through their respective floors because they feel like they'll end up enslaving him anyways, is just plain stupid, and creates a bunch of other plotholes.
The world-building has been awful from day one. Basically TLA+Pokemon, which doesn't make a lot of sense because people aren't like Pokemon (A firebender wouldn't be psysically hurt by you throwing water at them like a Fire Pokemon would). And also anyone can learn moves of any type, there's a reason why not every bender in TLA is the avatar, or why the only Pokemon who can learn every move is Mew. If you're gonna give everyone everything then why bother creating distinctions? It's bad they forget about it on ocassion, like for Karen, we don't know what her "type" is.
Koda also seems to have this way of writing everyone's dialogue that is way too similar. You can easily imagine half of the things Khulan is saying coming from Cobra's mouth, despite how different those two girls are supposed to be. He can't express a girl being seductive/teasing enough with words that he has to overuse the '~' symbol. And I do mean overuse, he'll use it literally 20 times in a single encounter with any girl. Sometimes he even uses heart emojis, ffs. And another one of his writing ticks is having girls say 'Hmhm'.
As for the porn itself, I realized Koda's wasn't that great when I found other erotic writing that was WAY hotter for me in Monster Girl Dreams. Koda will seldom talk about the sexual act being performed which imo is the whole point of a porn game, and will instead try and expand into how Ethan feels, which can take you out of it if you aren't feeling the same thing's Ethan is feeling. Most of his scenes he has to come up with these awful metaphors that the girls will tell Ethan while they dominate him, like Lily's "My toes are the vanguard breaking your defenses". I doubt anyone is getting turned on by Koda's writing when he comes up with these silly metaphors, they're probaly just getting turned on by the situation Ethan's in instead.

It all comes down to this. How replayable is this game to you? And I don't mean doing the EX fights over and over, I mean how many times have you repeatedly watched the same scenes and gotten aroused by them? For me ToT isn't all that replayable, I have to do some hardcore roleplay if I wanna enjoy most of the stuff in this game that I've seen already, and most of the time Koda's writing explaining how Ethan feels at any given moment completely fucks over that roleplay.
 
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