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[TangoTF]

To be clear what I am proposing is three different versions. Identical text. Version A is real porn that I am doing now. Once I am 100% done or close, I'd maybe do a 2nd 3d CG version myself (or maybe with a different but consistent artist, ie they do the whole game for a cut.) Then I just thought if I do that why not keep going and commission another 2d artist to remake in ren py as a classic Japanese style VN. I have an old patron poll about art style, and the consensus was that people that don't really care about art style as long as it is consistent and quality. But they were split - some people love real porn or hcg or whatever. Once the story is done and I have graphics I could remake the entire game very rapidly, probably within a couple months assuming the graphics were done. Then 4 years from now there is just three options - play your game with mark 1 real porn graphics, gifs and videos (Twine), mark 2 with 3D graphics (probably twine, maybe Ren Py), or mark 3 with 2d anime hcg (Ren Py). Each will have a slightly different "feel" due to the art direction and you just pick the one that allows the greatest level of immersion and enjoyment. Swapping art mid story won't happen, I try as it is to keep everything consistent but there are still a huge number of sources for the media and it seems to work, so maybe it could be done with a crowd sourcing kind of operation. I'm just brainstorming ways to get more mileage out of such a large story.

 

[Stunker]

I don't think either 2D or 3D animation could realistically replace the clips that are in Transfigure right now but that is not to say the other art styles don't have their own advantages. While you may currently be limited by photos/clips of Caprice or brunettes that kinda/sorta look like her, with 2D/3D art you can tailor (Taylor?) everything to be entirely consistent. And you would definitely have more freedom to tackle transformation scenes than with real porn (2D/3D Taylor with bigger breasts instead of Caprice turning into Bryci comes to mind).

If/when Super Transfigure Turbo: Hyper Edition comes out I would only suggest the 2d art be more japanese/anime style since 3d work already tends to look more 'western' (if that makes any sense). That way you have three very distinct looks to the game that really change things up.

 

[TangoTF]

I don't think either 2D or 3D animation could realistically replace the clips that are in Transfigure right now but that is not to say the other art styles don't have their own advantages. While you may currently be limited by photos/clips of Caprice or brunettes that kinda/sorta look like her, with 2D/3D art you can tailor (Taylor?) everything to be entirely consistent. And you would definitely have more freedom to tackle transformation scenes than with real porn (2D/3D Taylor with bigger breasts instead of Caprice turning into Bryci comes to mind).

If/when Super Transfigure Turbo: Hyper Edition comes out I would only suggest the 2d art be more japanese/anime style since 3d work already tends to look more 'western' (if that makes any sense). That way you have three very distinct looks to the game that really change things up.

I agree completely, especially with your first point. One of the other aspects that is important to me is having control over both the art and the story so that maybe I could sell the full version. As it is now, I would be pretty screwed if I got an email from littlecaprice's lawyer demanding removal of all her material that I don't own... (aka all of it) that would suck.

If you had a choice of caprice, 3d, or Japanese hcg what would you prefer to play?

 

[BUsybat]

If I had a choice, I would prefer caprice redirecting every single scene. Kind of like those porn interactive choice games come to think of it but... 100 versions lol

There's already a whole wide market of 3D & Jap porn games out there but very few good real porn games. No doubt a fair portion of cons of using porn gigs such as consistency and more imptly - legal like you pointed out but I do find real porn games cutting through the butter in this industry. It makes you stand out.

That being said, I do like the idea of having art choices but it may be rather ambitious and resource costly depending on when you decide to proceed.Fundamentally speaking however, while having art choices may or may not help in getting transfigure more traction, i think the greatest obstacles are:

1. Word text
2. M2F transformation

1 isnt too bad considering that's how literature, history and friction were created but you are appealing to a smaller market in a porn graphics industry. This is obviously something you are trying to combat with having art choices.

2 however is where the smaller market appeal gets sucked into a even smaller micro universe. There are people who can not overcome imagining their masculinity being swapped even if its fiction. This can be rather hard to overcome and probably the biggest reason why its challenging to get more supporters.

I guess 1 is the lesser evil and we have to play by ear eh.

 

[BruceLee73]

Caprice/3D. Dont need the Jap stuff ;P

 

[Lerox]

I am not in Japanese art style, but any other so colled western graphic style would be great, 3D or 2D whichever, maybe as a main graphic choice to real porn second choice with Little Caprice as a graphic protagonist (to the moment when she will realize it and puts veto to unauthorized use of her image). I very liked the art style of html sex game and the game itself of course - Fight Club Reborn, simple but imaginative drawings, which excellent worked together with text.

 

[KinkyCaptainWinkie]

Hi all, could I trouble someone for a few pointers please on how to actually access the Marg, Victoria, or Agency paths? I've played through a good number of times and inevitably hit the same paths. Any input would be immensely appreciated!

 

[TangoTF]

Hi all, could I trouble someone for a few pointers please on how to actually access the Marg, Victoria, or Agency paths? I've played through a good number of times and inevitably hit the same paths. Any input would be immensely appreciated!

It sounds like you are primarily missing sub branches on Drew's path.

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I am super busy at the moment but one day relatively soon I hope to update the Transfigure Walkthrough. (Current version available on TFGS).

 

[KinkyCaptainWinkie]

It sounds like you are primarily missing sub branches on Drew's path.

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I am super busy at the moment but one day relatively soon I hope to update the Transfigure Walkthrough. (Current version available on TFGS).

Thank you VERY much for taking time to chime in and offer some input .

 

[TangoTF]

Thank you VERY much for taking time to chime in and offer some input .

No problem. Let me know what you think of the stories you find!

 

[Terakahn]

Honestly the real porn aspect is one of the main draws for me. I wouldn't have returned otherwise. I think I originally found the game 1.5-2 years ago and thought it was cool but unfinished. It's so insanely rare for someone to not abandon their project over that kind of time span.

There's another game that I played that splits the path in 2 early on. Alteration app maybe? One has hentai images and the other path had real porn. Didn't like it at all so I hope things don't go that way lol. But ultimately it's your game and your vision.

I feel like in your posts you make it somewhat easy to find all the new things you add, which is nice. And having an x on broken or dead end paths is such a nice feature you have no idea.

I think if I had any complaint it would be that the route of controlling your own transformation isn't voted on more. There's literally endless potential to get from that kind of character power. Looking forward to that anniversary update regardless though.

 

[TangoTF]

Honestly the real porn aspect is one of the main draws for me. I wouldn't have returned otherwise. I think I originally found the game 1.5-2 years ago and thought it was cool but unfinished. It's so insanely rare for someone to not abandon their project over that kind of time span.

There's another game that I played that splits the path in 2 early on. Alteration app maybe? One has hentai images and the other path had real porn. Didn't like it at all so I hope things don't go that way lol. But ultimately it's your game and your vision.

I feel like in your posts you make it somewhat easy to find all the new things you add, which is nice. And having an x on broken or dead end paths is such a nice feature you have no idea.

I think if I had any complaint it would be that the route of controlling your own transformation isn't voted on more. There's literally endless potential to get from that kind of character power. Looking forward to that anniversary update regardless though.

Thanks for the feedback, Terakahn!

That's why I thought the idea for 3 different styles might have merit, since many readers are picky about media choices. I've heard "I only do __ games" a few times. It seems the biggest market by current library is Japan with hentai. I like the ease of real porn and the media and model banks I've built up. Problem there is ownership and lack of consistency, which I try to do my best on but it's hard. The most feasible art choice for me as a Western writer is 3d CG, but populating Transfigure with CG would take years of part time work.

I couldn't abandon the project even if I wanted to. It would disappoint my readers.

As for the transformations, a lot of this content is end game / meant for Transfigure 2. As you say, there is a lot I can do with this mechanic and it gets pretty insane very quickly. This area also includes major story spoilers and the like so it is slotted for after I complete most of the true ends. I think Transfigure will have at least 20 transformations. Transfigure 2 looks like it will have at least a hundred.

 

[Terakahn]

Well you don't own the art you can use it under fair use as it's transformative (haha transformative). You're not just posting the videos and charging for them.

I think thematically you've done a good job of keeping the scenes consistently believable with the characters and writing. For example using different actors but showing a perspective where you can't tell they're not the same people in the media. Even if some parts are a little media light, none of the new stuff has been. Which is nice.

I didn't even know there would be a transfigure 2. That sounds like a hefty project indeed.

 

[TangoTF]

Well you don't own the art you can use it under fair use as it's transformative (haha transformative). You're not just posting the videos and charging for them.

I think thematically you've done a good job of keeping the scenes consistently believable with the characters and writing. For example using different actors but showing a perspective where you can't tell they're not the same people in the media. Even if some parts are a little media light, none of the new stuff has been. Which is nice.

I didn't even know there would be a transfigure 2. That sounds like a hefty project indeed.

It is good to know that some notice some of the little touches.

Good point about fair use. It is a bit subjective though... but I agree there is some transformation going on I really appreciate the comments... Feel free to leave Transfigure an honest review if you have a moment, Terakahn.

Most of the media is not in game yet. The game is already kind of an incomplete monstrosity plus the other hummingbirds think I am nuts but eventually it is going to be REALLY big... Then after Transfigure is done I have many other projects in development that I will let my patrons vote on.

Current estimate of the complete game is 1 million words, 16 gigs of media. Current status: 47% complete 450k words 1 gig media. Beta begins at 50%

 

[Terakahn]

Jeeeeeeeesus that's a lot of stuff. The different ratio of media to words between the complete game and current is a wide gap though. Why so lopsided?

 

[TangoTF]

Jeeeeeeeesus that's a lot of stuff. The different ratio of media to words between the complete game and current is a wide gap though. Why so lopsided?

Because I only add things that fit and I have limited dev hours. I intend to use all the media I have gathered (plus more I get) but most of it is for end game content that has a higher degree of media vs intro story segments. Probably 10% doesn't have a label or a place now, so you are correct there is a large gap. Folks usually want new content vs me going back and updating others. I do update old routes when I have time. Mitch recently got an early game overhaul. I also have a decent amount of media I meant to use but it doesn't match the text and searching for better matches is very time consuming. Fans are welcome to send me things they think may fit in the dead zones. They often do, but I have a backlog of bugs and rewrites that take priority behind content generation. I also think people would shit a brick at this point if they were dling 10 gigs a month. Those upgrade packs are saviors

I am also writing with a higher media to word ratio than I did when I first started because the happy medium seems to be somewhere around the level I am at now. The complete version will have a lot of stuff (I got to cram things into all 23425291 routes in development.)

I think the ratio of media to words is pretty good now but I am always willing to hear from readers.

 

[TangoTF]

This update's yellow potion is almost too spicy. I might have to add an extra warning or something...

Hype +1 Get back to work, hummingbird!

*whip crack*

 

[Terakahn]

Happy fake anniversary

You seem to be hyping this release more than usual. You must be pretty proud of it. It's definitely got to be hard making the clip fit the scene and characters.

 

[TangoTF]

Happy fake anniversary

You seem to be hyping this release more than usual. You must be pretty proud of it. It's definitely got to be hard making the clip fit the scene and characters.

Thanks!

Fake anniversaries are practice anniversaries.

I'm just excited to inject some life and endings into the mix. I had to do a bunch of non writing stuff today sadly, but I'll give 'er tomorrow. Even if I don't finish everything I think some interesting content will come out over the next few updates. I am almost done adding a "true end" to Transfigure...

 

[Terakahn]

Are you saying this won't be the story that never ends? I feel like at some point you're going to turn this into a full game. Not browser based. With graphical menus and a bigger visual novel style. Though that would kill my ability to play on my phone unless you make a mobile app alongside it. But maybe that's too ambitious lol. Either way. Excited to see the directions it takes. I hope you keep adding new routes. Seems like there's a lot of unfollowed breadcrumbs still.