Others Complete [Translation Request]Kashidashi Tsuma, Marina no "Netorase" Houkoku 2 Case. Moto AV Dan'yuu & Binkan Tsuma
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One thing that makes Marina 1 better when it comes to H-scene but the AV actor seems better for Marina that is so very ironic to me ,
maybe because of the age difference
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I agree about longer but detailed nope Marina 2 has nice ones and more gallery like 3 some, videotape, also cumming many times is not better than AV actor who can make Marina cum first easily and Marina NTR that college guy in part 2 so...
I disagree and counter that Marina 2 is better simply cos Marina x AV are more intimate when doing it with kisses, BJs and Marina falls for him compared to 1 where Marina is just doing it to satisfy MC's fetish
I disagree and counter that Marina 2 is better simply cos Marina x AV are more intimate when doing it with kisses, BJs and Marina falls for him compared to 1 where Marina is just doing it to satisfy MC's fetish
BJ's ? I don't remember , in 1 I remember that Marina swallowed in the getaway trip which is something she don't usually do but I don't remember she did that in 2 , and what makes 1 better than 2 in terms of h-scenes is again the all night banging and energy draining and I don't see any of that in part 2 and it would have been better if there is because Marina seems to like the AV actor more than the College Guy , not sure though
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all will be revealed....in time...lol
I'm still editing some CGs because the lines are attached to them...
I agree dude all night banging is hot but keep in mind the guy in Marina 2 is wayyy better than college guy so probably Marina would get too weak in the knees, if you know what I mean
but Marina's design is improved from 1 and no rape scene like Marina 3 so for me this is the best. The only thing I wish it had more of was raw sex like 1 had but it has threesome at the end
Well I played part 2 using VNR and its MTL so I only understand about 40 % of it
blader_1336 Well ofcourse it would be ironic if the college guy is better since he's like a cherry boy in part 1 and the guy in part 2 is an AV Actor alright and to me I don't think that its Marina would get weak, its the age difference between the two guys, college guy has a lot of stamina because he is young so its understandable that the av actor don't have that stamina to go all night with Marina . Probably you're right this series might be the best overall I read a lot of positive comments about it in other site and forum too
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Per the college guy having stamina, yes it was part of the story but he wasn't a very good lover like most collage age men (sorry guys but its true). Just ask most collage age girls and they will tell you that stamina is for nothing since most guys don't even know how to give a women good sex. Most think just stick it in and pound real fast, that will do it! lol...ya...
I'd argue the biggest difference was the AV actor is SKILLED at giving women pleasure and that goes a looooong way vs having good stamina - plus some men in there 30's-40 have better sexual stamina especially if they make the effort to take care of themselves. Ironically in real life ED is a huge issue right now for men 20-30 which is shocking but explained mostly due to the social climate of our age (stress, porn, bad diet/lazy, ect).
The ONLY real physical difference per age is that younger men have stiffer, less flexible erections which can feel very "hard" or penetrating during sex.
Per the big surprises in Marina 2, honestly I love Marina series but you have to remember the author hates netorase and loves NTR - he never felt comfortable writing netorase and none of his other games if I recall feature it. The scene I'm assuming capu2 is referring to is the bath scene where Marina has thoughts about things in a more NTR fashion.
Even his "if" stories of marina are all NTR - he has publically stated he just doesn't get netorase, which is unfortunate because again its not truly a real netorase story since its basically anti-netorase and Marina is one of the most interesting characters/perfect for netorase.
This also comes down to japanese society/culture - netorase is a fairly new concept built off NTR which is not meant to be a positive experience in itself. Unlike cuckolding or just sharing wives doesn't have the history it does in western societies and thats why netorase in itself is different too.
I'd argue the biggest difference was the AV actor is SKILLED at giving women pleasure and that goes a looooong way vs having good stamina - plus some men in there 30's-40 have better sexual stamina especially if they make the effort to take care of themselves. Ironically in real life ED is a huge issue right now for men 20-30 which is shocking but explained mostly due to the social climate of our age (stress, porn, bad diet/lazy, ect).
The ONLY real physical difference per age is that younger men have stiffer, less flexible erections which can feel very "hard" or penetrating during sex.
Per the big surprises in Marina 2, honestly I love Marina series but you have to remember the author hates netorase and loves NTR - he never felt comfortable writing netorase and none of his other games if I recall feature it. The scene I'm assuming capu2 is referring to is the bath scene where Marina has thoughts about things in a more NTR fashion.
Even his "if" stories of marina are all NTR - he has publically stated he just doesn't get netorase, which is unfortunate because again its not truly a real netorase story since its basically anti-netorase and Marina is one of the most interesting characters/perfect for netorase.
This also comes down to japanese society/culture - netorase is a fairly new concept built off NTR which is not meant to be a positive experience in itself. Unlike cuckolding or just sharing wives doesn't have the history it does in western societies and thats why netorase in itself is different too.
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Well, this line right here takes the cake
Addendum: Last line is read as: "Aisuru hito ni, doushite sonna koto wo ieru darou" or How can I say that to my loved one
Addendum: Last line is read as: "Aisuru hito ni, doushite sonna koto wo ieru darou" or How can I say that to my loved one
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Damn, that second line is hot from Marina's perspective. It's a battle between love vs lust and I love it
How long must I wait capu2
How long must I wait capu2
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Marina's thoughts will surely unravel on this game.Damn, that second line is hot from Marina's perspective. It's a battle between love vs lust and I love it
How long must I wait capu2
Her desires, hesitations, and love.
The author, Onborozuki, did a solid job on her Character Development.
This line right here foreshadows Marina 3. The Ojii-sama is the 3rd party in Marina 3
Agreed! That character development is why Marina is the best MILF/character in Atelier Sakura games, she even has two more spinoffs after this game when others don't lol
So what's what's your favourite Marina game out of these trilogy only?
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Well I agree Marina's character development was well written, a major flaw is what effect her leaving Kenji would have for a new relationship literally built on sex and her daughter. She would eventually just be another single parent and I bet would get back together with Kenji one day.
The whole idea behind NTR is fear of losing ones "love" to another more sexually powerful man - but thats NTR esp. IF she had left Kenji it would technically have not lead to a better life.
Although we are taking hentai and japanese culture here, with the idea that NTR at its core is to sexually dominate another mans woman and turn her into his sex slave who can't get enough of him, like a mindless bimbo.
Thats why the most powerful NTR storylines are when a women actually falls in love FIRST with the other man with the sex being better too - not falling in love with another man becuase the sex is better.
Again while I agree that her character arc is well written (esp since she keeps her sanity) had she left Kenji it would no longer be a netorase game, (which in turn is really what the author loves) and it would just be another NTR game. Some people just don't get why netorase is enjoyed unfortunately.
Although its funny how so many people in western society love Marina 3 story since its clearly anti-netorase in the end too. But than again a lot of people prefer NTR too, when it was released in japan the forums were FILLED with people arguing if Marina was even a real NTR game or rather if netorase should be considered part of NTR fetish.
I personally loved Marina 2 because overall its the closest thing to true netorase in the series, yes she has a mix of feelings but its mostly at heart a netorase story. Whatever feelings she has of leaving kenji are literally to scratch the writers desire to put more NTR into the story but so few (or EVEN CUT) because it took it too far and away from what was meant to be - a netorase game.
The whole idea behind NTR is fear of losing ones "love" to another more sexually powerful man - but thats NTR esp. IF she had left Kenji it would technically have not lead to a better life.
Although we are taking hentai and japanese culture here, with the idea that NTR at its core is to sexually dominate another mans woman and turn her into his sex slave who can't get enough of him, like a mindless bimbo.
Thats why the most powerful NTR storylines are when a women actually falls in love FIRST with the other man with the sex being better too - not falling in love with another man becuase the sex is better.
Again while I agree that her character arc is well written (esp since she keeps her sanity) had she left Kenji it would no longer be a netorase game, (which in turn is really what the author loves) and it would just be another NTR game. Some people just don't get why netorase is enjoyed unfortunately.
Although its funny how so many people in western society love Marina 3 story since its clearly anti-netorase in the end too. But than again a lot of people prefer NTR too, when it was released in japan the forums were FILLED with people arguing if Marina was even a real NTR game or rather if netorase should be considered part of NTR fetish.
I personally loved Marina 2 because overall its the closest thing to true netorase in the series, yes she has a mix of feelings but its mostly at heart a netorase story. Whatever feelings she has of leaving kenji are literally to scratch the writers desire to put more NTR into the story but so few (or EVEN CUT) because it took it too far and away from what was meant to be - a netorase game.
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Except her prequel games were massive failures, looking at the online sale numbers (where sites show them) they under performed and poorly received by both her english and japanese fans. It basically boils down to the fact that Marina was made popular by basically introducing netorase to a larger audience.
Marina really was the first netorase titled game that actually exists.
Honestly I'm not even sure the logic behind making two marina spin-offs around non NTR/netorase storylines featuring her first love (the guy from the first game which most fans hated) and a second game where she basically teaches another guy how to have sex. The problem is Atelier Sakura's audience is built up of NTR fans - so why they would think to make two spinoffs for a different audience base that wouldn't even know her character and alienate her existing fans is a very strange decision.
Although from a writers point of view I get it, that its fun to explore a characters past but as seen that doesn't mean your audience will buy those stories if they are too different from what turns them on. In this case NTR/netorase.
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Just wanna share some news AS/NTR FANS ! Check this out ! Another Series of Cuckolding Report by Atelier Sakura on Feb 2021, I thought its Mayumi cuckolding report 3 , the heroine wife looks like her
Well I guest have to make another translation REQ thread for this one
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from my translation on handphone,Just wanna share some news AS/NTR FANS ! Check this out ! Another Series of Cuckolding Report by Atelier Sakura on Feb 2021, I thought its Mayumi cuckolding report 3 , the heroine wife looks like herWell I guest have to make another translation REQ thread for this oneYou don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
I think heroine's name not mayumi but yukana....
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i want make req thread to,Just wanna share some news AS/NTR FANS ! Check this out ! Another Series of Cuckolding Report by Atelier Sakura on Feb 2021, I thought its Mayumi cuckolding report 3 , the heroine wife looks like herWell I guest have to make another translation REQ thread for this oneYou don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
but since there's no summary in e hentai gallery so i keep in for future