Lolicon Kami

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Is this a bug?


The cheat “clowncar” I think is not working as I think is intended for the Sidebender, which is the ship stolen from Zheng Shi pirates.


When enabled, it does allow unlimited crew, but at the cost of 3 modules. For all the other ships, the cheat made the crew take up 0 modules? Does anyone else have same problems?
 

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Is this a bug?
The cheat “clowncar” I think is not working as I think is intended for the Sidebender, which is the ship stolen from Zheng Shi pirates.
When enabled, it does allow unlimited crew, but at the cost of 3 modules. For all the other ships, the cheat made the crew take up 0 modules? Does anyone else have same problems?
I think it works just fine. Also with "The Blade" which looks like a leaf - Kiro's ship...
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It's just me or while the games offers tons and tons of content that broadens the horizon there's not much deep to it?

Like a lot of npc that i feel are interesting are just there with 3 or 4 sex scenes, 3 or 4 dialogue options and then they are just there?
 
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mazqaz

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It's just me or while the games offers tons and tons of content that broadens the horizon there's not much deep to it?

Like a lot of npc that i feel are interesting are just there with 3 or 4 sex scenes, 3 or 4 dialogue options and then they are just there?
Yes it feels like a lot of areas and characters are barebones or exist only to satisfy a certain fetish, take Azra for example its been 3 years and there's just so little content with her and the Nyrea gained zero updates ever since the probe mission was completed besides that minor pregnancy content. Tarkus still remains the most boring planet in the game because there's nothing there to do, this all comes down to what the creators feel like working on and many have already left or gave up on some of the characters. So many charcaters and locations were supposed to get more quests but it looks like they might never be completed.
 
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Would be nice to see at least some small talks between them. But i don't think that they were made to keep them all at your ship. And that i think is why 'clowncar' cheat exist.
Actually i remember fenfen stating somewhere at fenoxo comments that they were surprised how many NPC's players get on their ships. That was kinda long time ago - when they introduced ship fights and the number of NPC being carried on ships.
 

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Actually i remember fenfen stating somewhere..
Seems to be the archetype of its development where we remember the creator said something somewhere and never delivered or just abandoned things on the side because patreon money.

This wouldn't happen if people weren't allowed to shoehorn in their OCs into it & they instead just worked on the game at large one planet at a time while updating side content somewhere in between. It might be more scarce for content but I'd rather have a consistent schedule rather than a forced mini update every month.
 
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Yeah, Patreon policy changed many more games. Not only TiTS. I remember playing totally different Roundscape Adorevia. A lot of changes due to a Ruler of the rules...
 
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Fikedever

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Would be nice to see at least some small talks between them. But i don't think that they were made to keep them all at your ship. And that i think is why 'clowncar' cheat exist.
Actually i remember fenfen stating somewhere at fenoxo comments that they were surprised how many NPC's players get on their ships. That was kinda long time ago - when they introduced ship fights and the number of NPC being carried on ships.
The clowncar cheat exists because there are missing ship mechanics in the system:
  • Service when buying a ship that sends your old ship back to Tavros instead of selling it. The current way around that is to buy the cheapest ship on Tavros then fly to the place to buy or steal your new ship. Uh oh, the cheap junker you just sold doesn't have enough slots for your crew, so GTFO until I invite you back. Oh god, Anno, please, don't rip my heart out! It's an annoying chore that makes you sad.
  • Lack of bigger ships (or maybe Olympia is unfinished). You want Olympia? I have 17 crew members (22 but 5 dont count), and you have to reduce down to 1 weapon in order to have all the crew on the SideWinder.
Why did Fen start on a ship system that was said to not be able to be reassigned from Gedan because it would be too much work to get them up to speed on how it was designed? My speculation is that it was hastily put together because Fen finally realized it couldn't wait. Sure, people were asking for it as it had already been a while since it was promised, and I'm sure that included patrons, but I think what finally made him do it was Nonesuch taking his concept for Hand So to Cloud 10.

What is the lesson in all of this? If you want to make a game where submission content is accepted, don't take your writers for granted, especially your proven big time writers. They can't wait forever; the future is uncertain and passion for a concept can disappear. Also, Patreon based development tends to lead to content having to be implemented before the game engine is finished because a good game engine is boring. Ship's and ship combat is the type of framework that should be implemented early on. After all, without a framework, writers can't write content (Hand So) for that frame work.
 
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I honestly cant remember if I've had this problem before since I forgot about this game until very recently but, I remember being able to take my save files from android and move them onto my pc to edit them, however whenever I try to use the save\load file button I get this error:

Something bad happened!

Please report this message, and include any prior scene text or a description of what you did before seeing this message:

Flash Player: Desktop - Linux 4.9.112-pref+
Flash Version: AND 3,0,0,170
Gamer Version: 0.8.084

Error Name: Error
Error Mesg: Error #3001
Error: Error #3001
at classes.DataManager:: DataManager/loadFromFile()
at Classes::TiTS/buttonClick()


if anyone could help me out here it would be greatly appreciated, also im using a Moto G7 Power android version 9 if that helps at all, I think the last time I was moving my save files back and forth was on a Samsung Galaxy Mega?? either that or a LG Aristo 2, although I doubt it was the aristo because I couldn't stand that phone.

Just a quick ps, its about 4:20 am when Im writing this so if i don't reply within the next 6-8 hours I apologize.
 
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Fikedever

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is not supported on Android. If it is possible to get it working outside changing the code, I don't know how. The starting place to whats causing the problem is probably related to Android version, and how Android gives permissions to apps for handling files.

I figured I'd give it a bit more of a look on the code side, and I found some interesting information. It turns out that the uses which does not work on mobile in ActionScript 3.0. Instead, should be used, which the version does use. This is likely because & are only supported in AIR 1.0 (look at "Runtime Versions" in those two links) while is supported in AIR and Flash Player 9.

Looking at the .apk version (are you using that?), it appears to me that its an AIR version and should be using the right code. So, now that I'm here I don't know why it wouldn't work if you are using the .apk version.

Note: I have coding experience, but no Flash or ActionScript experience. All the info I found was from a few quick searches, so more can probably be found.

Edit: I just realized I only looked at loading from file, not saving to file. I took a look at save to file, and it looks to match pretty well with loadFromFile(). The flash version uses FileReference, and the AIR uses File & FileStream.

Edit 2: I notice that the Stack Overflow I linked uses while uses . If Android isn't giving global file permissions to the AIR app, that would explain why it might error out.

Edit 3: Had some more inspiration and searched for "File.documentsDirectory flash android error". Found that explains that means "File or directory access denied". I'm going to see if I can get it working in BlueStacks. I stopped the error from appearing by going to Settings > Apps > Trials in Tainted Space > Permissions > Enable Storage. It doesn't come up with a file browser to locate a file though, but that might be a BlueStacks issue. It gives it a name automatically. For BlueStacks the save files are stored at sdcard/data/com.taintedspace.www/ although it may be different on your device.
 
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mazqaz

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Yeah, Patreon policy changed many more games. Not only TiTS. I remember playing totally different Roundscape Adorevia. A lot of changes due to a Ruler of the rules...
Why don't they just switch to subscribe star? From what I understand they don't have the same restrictions as patreon and many well known devs gain their income from there. I'd like to see projects with zero self restrictions like the majority of japanese games.
 
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I honestly cant remember if I've had this problem before since I forgot about this game until very recently but, I remember being able to take my save files from android and move them onto my pc to edit them, however whenever I try to use the save\load file button I get this error:

Something bad happened!

Please report this message, and include any prior scene text or a description of what you did before seeing this message:

Flash Player: Desktop - Linux 4.9.112-pref+
Flash Version: AND 3,0,0,170
Gamer Version: 0.8.084

Error Name: Error
Error Mesg: Error #3001
Error: Error #3001
at classes.DataManager:: DataManager/loadFromFile()
at Classes::TiTS/buttonClick()


if anyone could help me out here it would be greatly appreciated, also im using a Moto G7 Power android version 9 if that helps at all, I think the last time I was moving my save files back and forth was on a Samsung Galaxy Mega?? either that or a LG Aristo 2, although I doubt it was the aristo because I couldn't stand that phone.

Just a quick ps, its about 4:20 am when Im writing this so if i don't reply within the next 6-8 hours I apologize.
It's a long shot but maybe you didn't give permissions or they got changed by the phone themselves to use your storage from your phone? I don't use the mobile version tho so i can't help more then that since i heard of something similar and that was the case then.
 

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Is there any way to transfer the old version save files to the new one? I really don't want to start and make a new character... even though this one has lost his anal V. when I was skipping fights xD I regret everything.
 

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Why don't they just switch to subscribe star? From what I understand they don't have the same restrictions as patreon and many well known devs gain their income from there. I'd like to see projects with zero self restrictions like the majority of japanese games.
they did go to subscribestar, but it's the same thing anyway because :
-they didn't leave patreon (because it'll be too much money lost)
-subscribestar will at some point be like patreon since they have the same root problem (problem being "porn is bad" said by banks and the likes)
 
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mazqaz

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Is there any way to transfer the old version save files to the new one? I really don't want to start and make a new character... even though this one has lost his anal V. when I was skipping fights xD I regret everything.
Old save files should be compatible with any newer versions. At least in my case I used a save from version 7.02 straigh to 8.06 without issues. Just save the game as a file and load it in the newer version.
 
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Fikedever

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Why don't they just switch to subscribe star? From what I understand they don't have the same restrictions as patreon and many well known devs gain their income from there. I'd like to see projects with zero self restrictions like the majority of japanese games.
Both CoC2 and TiTS have a Subscribe Star (CoC2 also has Sponsus). They usually advertise it on every patch near the bottom.
hey did go to subscribestar, but it's the same thing anyway because :
-they didn't leave patreon (because it'll be too much money lost)
-subscribestar will at some point be like patreon since they have the same root problem (problem being "porn is bad" said by banks and the likes)
What I find interesting is they didn't consider changing their right-side advertising banners on fenoxo.com from Patreon to Subscribe Star. Right now they don't make nearly as much from Subscribe Star compared to Patreon, and it isn't all that surprising why.

I'd like to point out, this thread doesn't have on the first post. The CoC2 thread also doesn't have their or .

It's a long shot but maybe you didn't give permissions or they got changed by the phone themselves to use your storage from your phone? I don't use the mobile version tho so i can't help more then that since i heard of something similar and that was the case then.
Error 3001 is a permission error, so I would say you are correct.
 
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is not supported on Android. If it is possible to get it working outside changing the code, I don't know how. The starting place to whats causing the problem is probably related to Android version, and how Android gives permissions to apps for handling files.

I figured I'd give it a bit more of a look on the code side, and I found some interesting information. It turns out that the uses which does not work on mobile in ActionScript 3.0. Instead, should be used, which the version does use. This is likely because & are only supported in AIR 1.0 (look at "Runtime Versions" in those two links) while is supported in AIR and Flash Player 9.

Looking at the .apk version (are you using that?), it appears to me that its an AIR version and should be using the right code. So, now that I'm here I don't know why it wouldn't work if you are using the .apk version.

Note: I have coding experience, but no Flash or ActionScript experience. All the info I found was from a few quick searches, so more can probably be found.

Edit: I just realized I only looked at loading from file, not saving to file. I took a look at save to file, and it looks to match pretty well with loadFromFile(). The flash version uses FileReference, and the AIR uses File & FileStream.

Edit 2: I notice that the Stack Overflow I linked uses while uses . If Android isn't giving global file permissions to the AIR app, that would explain why it might error out.

Edit 3: Had some more inspiration and searched for "File.documentsDirectory flash android error". Found that explains that means "File or directory access denied". I'm going to see if I can get it working in BlueStacks. I stopped the error from appearing by going to Settings > Apps > Trials in Tainted Space > Permissions > Enable Storage. It doesn't come up with a file browser to locate a file though, but that might be a BlueStacks issue. It gives it a name automatically. For BlueStacks the save files are stored at sdcard/data/com.taintedspace.www/ although it may be different on your device.
Thanks for the detailed reply, my phone is super weird with app settings and permissions so I hadn't thought of going and seeing if storage permissions are allowed for trials, after that I'll try again and see if I can't locate the hidden data folder the files get saved in

Turns out my phone disables storage permissions by default, turning them on for trials immediately fixed the problem with getting errors on save to file, now I'm gonna boot up my computer and see if I can edit the save then load it back onto my phone like I used too, thanks again Fike and Soap, I'll update this post with info on wether im able to load edited saves or not in a few

UPDATE: I was able to edit my mobile just as if it was a pc file, and after moving it back onto my phone I was able to load into trials with 0 problems at all. Once again, huge thanks to Fikedever and Soap Cracker for helping me out!
 
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