VN Ren'Py Triple Ex [v0.23] [Azrayal]

[DickoNicko]

Not really, I was asking them what makes them think of her as the MC, because as I said I want to know what is the criteria for them, so maybe I can understand his point better, and they answered, and as I said one post above yours I understand why they said it was more because of the Mc's passiveness and that it seemed that he got lost in the story, and I can agree that the game makes it look like that, you are the one that brought back the whole Julia-Deb, my question had nothing to do with that, I wanted to learner a new point of view. I don't understand why of the use of "whores" but other than that I can see your point.

Edit: Also if we actually explain properly what we don't like and why, maybe, just maybe if the dev feels like it, they'll change it, it is hard to change something without knowing what it is, people just saying "oh Deb feels more like the MC than the MC", okay, but why? if the dev doesn't know why, how can they change it?

"the Mc is only the MC if things go their way?" I've read enough to see you're not dumb, so you know this isn't just "asking them what makes them think of her as the MC"; this is criticizing other's logic. Meh, that's not even my main point. Also let's not ignore my comment involves the amount of comments you had against others, so me mentioning the Deb-Julia issue connects with the fact a lot pointed it out as one of the events they disliked. The fact that I'm commenting about your interactions with others and not just one comment, makes my mention about such event valid and relevant. The use of the term "whores" (I guess sorry if it triggered you) was a mere choice of words, but she turned from Deb's passive-aggressive sexual harassment victim that really seemed to prefer subtle flirting with MC into a "ok, let's fuck harasser" doll with a sudden huge lack of willpower. *inserts "that escalated quickly"meme*. That's a massive WTF and it's just one of a list of details people are starting to really dislike about this game.

 

[TundraLupus]

"the Mc is only the MC if things go their way?" I've read enough to see you're not dumb, so you know this isn't just "asking them what makes them think of her as the MC"; this is criticizing other's logic. Meh, that's not even my main point. Also let's not ignore my comment involves the amount of comments you had against others, so me mentioning the Deb-Julia issue connects with the fact a lot pointed it out as one of the events they disliked. The fact that I'm commenting about your interactions with others and not just one comment, makes my mention about such event valid and relevant. The use of the term "whores" (I guess sorry if it triggered you) was a mere choice of words, but she turned from Deb's passive-aggressive sexual harassment victim that really seemed to prefer subtle flirting with MC into a "ok, let's fuck harasser" doll with a sudden huge lack of willpower. *inserts "that escalated quickly"meme*. That's a massive WTF and it's just one of a list of details people are starting to really dislike about this game.

That was a question based on what they said, they mentioned her always getting her way, so my question was if that was their reasoning, and if it would be something they would utilize in games that do not have explicit sexual content, although some triple-A games do have it, again I was trying to understand the logic behind it.

Going to the other part, ok, I'll give you that, my focus was on something else though and that is why it didn't make sense to me, now I understand why you did and can see your point, for that one though, I kind of understand what you mean, and kind of don't, yes Julia was flirting with the MC but she was also talking and flirting with Deb, they actually had far more conversations about sex and their sexualities then she even got close to have with the MC so it didn't feel rushed to me, fast, sure, but it still made some sense, also, again she was interested in a threesome, was denied said threesome, but the other person was still interested in having sex, so she went for it, it isn't like she never shown interest in woman or Deb, the reason why she is so subtle with the Mc is that the only sexual relationship she had for a long time was with a woman(the Mc's ex), so she was treading water, taking things slow. I'll probably replay the scene that people keep saying is harassment though, with so many agreeing with it I might be misremembering how that went.

Edit: Correcting myself, yes it felt rushed, I guess I'm just way too accustomed to these games pace where everything happens instantly, my bad.

Edit2: Although there is a justification I can agree it is a weak one, at least for the first finger-banging scene.

 

[Jstforme]

Plus all the signs are there for Deb grooming Milli to be part of her harem. Forcing Julia to stay nude when Milli came in the room, getting her used to seeing herself naked or near naked at all times in the house and bed. And the scene the irked me the most was when Milli wanted to take care of her dad's bruised ribs. If Deb truly wanted them to connect, that was the moment it could have started, but she hung out being obnoxious, interjecting in their conversation where she didn't have to, watching porn, and commenting constantly about it. Her whole goal was to get the MC as uncomfortable as possible, and keep the divide up between him and his daughter.
All signs point to Deb taking over the house and leaving the MC a pathetic and miserable tool that no longer serves a purpose in the story. This is the argument for Deb being the MC, not the actual MC. She's literally forcing him out of his own story.

Edit: Now that his flight attendant girlfriend is in trouble, he's probably going to leave to try rescuing her...leaving Milli and Julia in Deb's clutches. By the time he gets back, he'll likely be asked to leave, and told he's no longer needed. Maybe he'll set up a tent outside the walls, crying while he watches orgies at the pool.

 

[TundraLupus]

Plus all the signs are there for Deb grooming Milli to be part of her harem. Forcing Julia to stay nude when Milli came in the room, getting her used to seeing herself naked or near naked at all times in the house and bed. And the scene the irked me the most was when Milli wanted to take care of her dad's bruised ribs. If Deb truly wanted them to connect, that was the moment it could have started, but she hung out being obnoxious, interjecting in their conversation where she didn't have to, watching porn, and commenting constantly about it. Her whole goal was to get the MC as uncomfortable as possible, and keep the divide up between him and his daughter.
All signs point to Deb taking over the house and leaving the MC a pathetic and miserable tool that no longer serves a purpose in the story. This is the argument for Deb being the MC, not the actual MC. She's literally forcing him out of his own story.

I can see what you mean, and mostly agree, she is taking the actions, at least on the sexual part of the story, that an MC normally would in many of these games so I can see why it would look like that, the scene with her watching porn I felt it was more of her acting like a child and being mad because the Mc wanted to talk to Julia alone, which is one of my complaints about the game, the MC is old and obviously had experience with women but acts like a teenager whenever sex comes up, and Deb acts like a spoilt kid.

Edit: To those tired of me rejoice, I won't be commenting for a while, I'll only respond if quoted or mentioned, so you won't have to read my shit for some time, have a good week.

 

[Ghostdanser]

Okay, going to throw my 2 cents worth in here,

I'm not going to rehash the Deb situation, so much has been said on it already. I'll withhold final judgement until we get more facts. Not looking good for her though.

I still don't believe Marie is dead, and I still see no reason to forgive her.

I just about gave up on Milli when I overheard her say she read the letter and it was still the MC's fault. I just wanted to repair the damage and have a normal father/daughter relationship, and that really made me think there's nothing that will fix this since it will always be his fault. That said, it appeared there might be a chance when the bandaging the ribs scene played out, but it wasn't about normal father/daughter bonding so much as lets force the incest topic without giving the MC a way out. For me it felt off, it's seems like we are skipping over fixing the damage that was done by the lie and heading straight for banging the daughter before making things right.

Kumiko was pretty much a trap. If you don't accept her "hospitality" she is pissed at you for not having sex with her. If you do accept her hospitality then she feels guilty for having sex with you, because she feels it's a betrayal of Milli. There are shades in between, which I will give kudos to the dev for programming, but it still feels like a damned if you do/don't situation.

The MC is still thick as a brick with this update. His choking out of Deb was too harsh, he needed to establish his authority, but that crossed the line into assault. There were other ways to handle the problem without getting physical, or as someone already pointed out a sparring match could have been done if it had to get physical. Yet the worst thing in this update was forgetting to bring a gun...the MC has one primary purpose, to keep his daughter safe, and he forgets to bring a gun. It really does not bode well for the daughter's safety in the future.

As for Astrid...we'll find out in the next update (maybe).

Graphics are really good. The English is very good and easy to read (no Engrish here). The plot is uneven up to this point, with some things just not making sense, however the premise has a lot of potential, it just hasn't lived up to that potential.

 

[paulie13]

ntr is optional or not?

 

[lu2]

Plus all the signs are there for Deb grooming Milli to be part of her harem. Forcing Julia to stay nude when Milli came in the room, getting her used to seeing herself naked or near naked at all times in the house and bed. And the scene the irked me the most was when Milli wanted to take care of her dad's bruised ribs. If Deb truly wanted them to connect, that was the moment it could have started, but she hung out being obnoxious, interjecting in their conversation where she didn't have to, watching porn, and commenting constantly about it. Her whole goal was to get the MC as uncomfortable as possible, and keep the divide up between him and his daughter.
All signs point to Deb taking over the house and leaving the MC a pathetic and miserable tool that no longer serves a purpose in the story. This is the argument for Deb being the MC, not the actual MC. She's literally forcing him out of his own story.

Edit: Now that his flight attendant girlfriend is in trouble, he's probably going to leave to try rescuing her...leaving Milli and Julia in Deb's clutches. By the time he gets back, he'll likely be asked to leave, and told he's no longer needed. Maybe he'll set up a tent outside the walls, crying while he watches orgies at the pool.

agree with your point of view.
MC is old and obviously had experience with women but acts like a teenager whenever sex comes up, and Deb acts like she knows everything and can do whatever she want np
and jake anything he does seems wrong in their eyes (girls)
so I'm not going to play that game again until I'm more certain in the story fair all
I hope the dev can make the game better

 

[Jstforme]

Okay, going to throw my 2 cents worth in here,

I still don't believe Marie is dead, and I still see no reason to forgive her.

His choking out of Deb was too harsh, he needed to establish his authority, but that crossed the line into assault. There were other ways to handle the problem without getting physical, or as someone already pointed out a sparring match could have been done if it had to get physical. Yet the worst thing in this update was forgetting to bring a gun...the MC has one primary purpose, to keep his daughter safe, and he forgets to bring a gun. It really does not bode well for the daughter's safety in the future.

I agree that Marie and the senator are still alive. The whole comment about it being amazing a small trace of DNA was found, especially from wreckage out at sea was sort of a major tip off that it was planted to make it seem they are dead. I swear, we better have the option to tell her to fuck off or we'll finish what was started with no chance of DNA being found.

With the choking scene, being how dumb the MC is, it matches up really. He's already tried talking with her like a person about backing off from Milli and stop undermining him at every opportunity several times, which she promptly ignored and continued like nothing happened. Choking her didn't really work either of course, she toned down the undermining, but she changed tactics from making moves on Milli, to manipulating Milli to put the moves on her instead.

Can't imagine the Dev is satisfied with his whopping 24 patreons, I hope he realizes he could quadruple that number if he has Deb killed off, or effectively removed from the story for a while.

 

[eddie987]

I agree that Marie and the senator are still alive. The whole comment about it being amazing a small trace of DNA was found, especially from wreckage out at sea was sort of a major tip off that it was planted to make it seem they are dead. I swear, we better have the option to tell her to fuck off or we'll finish what was started with no chance of DNA being found.

With the choking scene, being how dumb the MC is, it matches up really. He's already tried talking with her like a person about backing off from Milli and stop undermining him at every opportunity several times, which she promptly ignored and continued like nothing happened. Choking her didn't really work either of course, she toned down the undermining, but she changed tactics from making moves on Milli, to manipulating Milli to put the moves on her instead.

Can't imagine the Dev is satisfied with his whopping 24 patreons, I hope he realizes he could quadruple that number if he has Deb killed off, or effectively removed from the story for a while.

Well according to the dev he received some very nice comments about his story and that makes it worth it, so I wouldn't get my hopes up for any changes... Like I said before I really like the idea of this game, but not the execution and that's 90% because of Deb and the rest because of the MC's behavior from time to time. Of course it could be 100% because of her, since we don't know how he'd be if she wasn't messing with him 24/7. The fact that I really dislike Deb, doesn't mean that I dislike the story as a whole. People can like the story and wanting Deb to suffer have less screen time and more importantly stop banging the girls the MC's been flirting with.

 

[DA22]

Well according to the dev he received some very nice comments about his story and that makes it worth it, so I wouldn't get my hopes up for any changes... Like I said before I really like the idea of this game, but not the execution and that's 90% because of Deb and the rest because of the MC's behavior from time to time. Of course it could be 100% because of her, since we don't know how he'd be if she wasn't messing with him 24/7. The fact that I really dislike Deb, doesn't mean that I dislike the story as a whole. People can like the story and wanting Deb to suffer have less screen time and more importantly stop banging the girls the MC's been flirting with.

If we hated the game, we would not be here in the end, but have moved on quite quickly. Now maybe dev would have been happier if we did.

 

[Sngo]

There is a very easy fix for this game to make any sense. Change the tags to female protagonist and its done. Deb already have a lot of screen time, every time she gets laid you see it so it means no need to make new renders, she is the one with one harem, change the brother for slave or walking deb personal dick and everything makes sense now .

 

[Jstforme]

Well according to the dev he received some very nice comments about his story and that makes it worth it, so I wouldn't get my hopes up for any changes... Like I said before I really like the idea of this game, but not the execution and that's 90% because of Deb and the rest because of the MC's behavior from time to time. Of course it could be 100% because of her, since we don't know how he'd be if she wasn't messing with him 24/7. The fact that I really dislike Deb, doesn't mean that I dislike the story as a whole. People can like the story and wanting Deb to suffer have less screen time and more importantly stop banging the girls the MC's been flirting with.

Sure, his 20+ subscribers I'm sure enjoy what's Deb is doing, that's why they're subscribing. He's not going to grow that base by staying the course though, I sort of thought the whole point of making all this is to make money. What sense does it make to appeal to a tiny portion of people, when you could widen the net and make more money by toning down Deb, and giving the MC some balls?
It's whatever, obviously the Dev thinks going off course from the story and turning it into a lesbian harem cuckold fantasy, more power to him. I've officially lost interest.

 

[eddie987]

Sure, his 20+ subscribers I'm sure enjoy what's Deb is doing, that's why they're subscribing. He's not going to grow that base by staying the course though, I sort of thought the whole point of making all this is to make money. What sense does it make to appeal to a tiny portion of people, when you could widen the net and make more money by toning down Deb, and giving the MC some balls?
It's whatever, obviously the Dev thinks going off course from the story and turning it into a lesbian harem cuckold fantasy, more power to him. I've officially lost interest.

The dev said a couple of times that Deb won't always get what she wants. Of course I don't know if that means she'll finally be put in her place or that she'll have to grope some of the love interests more than a couple of times before they let her bang them, but that's the only reason I haven't "rage-quitted" yet. No matter how interesting I find this story she's just... too much.

I really can't understand how the dev considers what she's been doing to be just her "antics" but my best guess is that he believes that if it's a woman who's doing the cucking it doesn't count or that if she'll allow the MC to have a turn with some of her girls in the future, everything's gonna be fine. Someone already explained how she turned Julia into a whore in just a couple of days, so it's already one possible love interest down for me (two if you count Deb) and I'm not very optimistic about Astrid, after how the last update ended. I've said it before, at this rate my MC will end up with Bart! That is if Deb doesn't turn him bi too of course...

 

[Jstforme]

Yes, I'm sure if Deb grabs Bart's junk a couple of times, he'll realize what he's been missing and follow Deb around like a puppy. I'll give the next update a chance, but judging from what I've learned about the Dev so far, I'll likely wont finish the update before deleting and forgetting this title existed.

 

[lu2]

The dev said a couple of times that Deb won't always get what she wants. Of course I don't know if that means she'll finally be put in her place or that she'll have to grope some of the love interests more than a couple of times before they let her bang them, but that's the only reason I haven't "rage-quitted" yet. No matter how interesting I find this story she's just... too much.

I really can't understand how the dev considers what she's been doing to be just her "antics" but my best guess is that he believes that if it's a woman who's doing the cucking it doesn't count or that if she'll allow the MC to have a turn with some of her girls in the future, everything's gonna be fine. Someone already explained how she turned Julia into a whore in just a couple of days, so it's already one possible love interest down for me (two if you count Deb) and I'm not very optimistic about Astrid, after how the last update ended. I've said it before, at this rate my MC will end up with Bart! That is if Deb doesn't turn him bi too of course...

When ?
so far she runs everything
Julia into a whore more or less
Jake's daughter give her a lot of attention
and deb make her brother is too passive so she can do whatever she wants.
Deb acts like she knows everything and can do whatever she want np

the only way to stop her and she’ve done some harm in the past and have a very bad, hidden secret for jake
like marie but lot worse for several people

beginning like game
but Deb is ruin game for me

I'm starting lost interest game but I would rather not lose

 

[DickoNicko]

There is a very easy fix for this game to make any sense. Change the tags to female protagonist and its done. Deb already have a lot of screen time, every time she gets laid you see it so it means no need to make new renders, she is the one with one harem, change the brother for slave or walking deb personal dick and everything makes sense now .

Tags should be: Female Protagonist, Female Domination, Harem, Corruption, Grooming, Male Humiliation, Cuck, etc.

 

[Ursus4321]

It is possible, I repeat, it is possible that the dev will bring the MC down to hell giving all the power to Deb as bad bad. The problem that you will find in the future if this is so, is that when you want to start growing the protagonist, you will have already ruined all possible love interests. Because let's say it clearly, once you see that your potential love has been fucked by someone else, you either pass that love, or you just quit the game.

 

[thorin0815]

Tags should be: Female Protagonist, Female Domination, Harem, Corruption, Grooming, Male Humiliation, Cuck, etc.

Don't forget the [Annoying Person] tag especially created for Deb. God, if I have to read that awful slang/accent/whatever again, I'll throw up.

 

[nevermoreXX]

Azrayal
This is actually solid written, interesting story.
Even tho deb's acting like a w.class bitch u can see that beneith she is actually all heart for mc. Love that in her hate the bitch , but i see that "training" finally started to melt her down even tho it took 20? years.. Same goes for MC, from w.class dumbass to a caring person.
Astrid personal stewardess ? damn thats hot, wouldnt mind some of her "chocolate" girlfriend (other stewardess ) mixed in either, just for flavor ..
Milly is also amazing, maybe bit "over-pumped" tho. She looks like steroid abuser looking like she is now. Maybe too much for a young girl like her
Hope to see more soon!
Thanks!

Don't forget the [Annoying Person] tag especially created for Deb. God, if I have to read that awful slang/accent/whatever again, I'll throw up.

Wait, did i miss something? When did cuck happened? by whom?
deb said mc was only man in her life, so wheres the cuck part? (no i dont want that shit, but is that actually in game? and by whom?)

--Edit,
ahh? are people talking cuck because your sis fucked wife? yeah that was slightly disturbing, well not the act it self, but the fact that bitch lied and lied for years. But on the other hand, come on, girl on girl is not really cucking is it? or at least not in my eyes. Just be fucking honest about it , dont hide it.
Then , she is your sis afterall, thats best thing that could have happened since mc was retard , wife could have just as easily went to steam out ..to "other" places.. now that would be fucked up for all 3 of them

For me , story is ok so far. If u go with MC+ route , you can tone bitch in deb a bit, to almost acceptable levels. Hope that it can be toned down even more, way more. Otherwise it wont be fun at all

 

[nevermoreXX]

Azrayal i think i have caught glimpse of what Kumiko is aiming at, she is looking for a man to replace her lame excuse of a brother , tactician with military experience perhaps?
I was wondering , would it be possible to get one or two good infiltrate/take-down joint op with Deb, Kumi and MC, just to test MC capability as replacement? (Way she strangled that guy with bag and stay virgin comment on small dick on other guy was hilarious!) Add some of Deb's sense of humor ofc. As i see it , MC would now probably be 40year old virgin if it wasn't for deb ? but he is opening up.
Anyway , joint OP with them would be awesome to see!
And maybe in return they can then take down wannabe power struggle fight on MC's side