VN Ren'Py Turning the Page [v0.29.0] [Azienda]

[interea]

Having only watched Felix's side, i don't really know what Zack did to manipulate Sophie but my take is that she fell in love with him for real because he was actually charming her straightforwardly. The fact of her walking in on him with other girls I assume was what happened when she wanted to leave him but couldn't after what she saw due to jealousy (I'm aware this is on Sophie's side but I read some spoilers).

With Felix not being able to move on and let things happen in this way feels a bit weak to me and I'm honestly struggling to understand whether if this type of scenario ending makes any sense. I feel like this ending was a form of message saying, if Felix/you becomes unable to move on from what's happened and just outright blames everyone left and right over what's happened to himself, he'll end up all alone.

As someone that's only played Felix's side, I do feel like what happened, how it happened and the outcome of it all makes sense, except the fact that the two of them were able to get away with it scot-free.

 

[ItsNotUs]

A very depressing, sad ending, Felix certainly doesn’t deserve this (everything could have been much simpler and easier for him).
Based on previous discussions of the ending (i didn’t read the spoilers), throughout the entire update i was expecting that something very bad would happen, maybe Felix would be shot by a hunter or he would jump off a bridge, but no, the devs have prepared the most terrible fate for him!
While Sophie is enjoying a beautiful, rich life, Felix is dying in depression, living in his "happy past life" in his mind! Felix has no way out, and if in the end he still took off the ring, even through pain, then one could judge that he has a future, but no he will be left to suffer alone for the rest of his life!
This is not a fair ending!

It’s interesting that the game will have an ending where Zack leaves Sophie to suffer, because at the beginning everything was all about it!

 

[Lucifur]

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[Adhdclassic]

So what's next noticed Felix gallery had no WIPs, where Sophias had i think was 8. Are we going to get him/her cheating scenario, a porn scenario, an apology scenario, an abandoned scenario, a pass around scenario. Whatever dev does has to be better than this update.

 

[blewbury]

So what's next noticed Felix gallery had no WIPs, where Sophias had i think was 8. Are we going to get him/her cheating scenario, a porn scenario, an apology scenario, an abandoned scenario, a pass around scenario. Whatever dev does has to be better than this update.

Shhh! Don't tell all those dudes above. Let them be fully assured the game has ended with "lame ending" in 0.28 and go wait for next Azienda's game somewhere else. While we'll enjoy all this in silence

 

[Missmiles]

Even if the rest of the game is amazing (and this one isn't; it's passable at best), this ending is still a black mark.

We've all seen otherwise decent games and even series ruined because it ended badly.

 

[rustyspoon]

not the same though
ugly old dude (good at fucking) VS avg loving dude
in TtP Good looking young stud (good at fucking) with the potential of big-money success (athlete) VS a below avg teacher with a boring lifestyle (bad at fucking)
Felix's character is set up for failure from the beginning as it should be in an NTR GAME
let's be honest for a second if any woman got to secure a committed relationship with someone like Zack she would leave her husband immediately some women do it with just a lie so what do you think would happen if he was sincere like Zack in this ending

The fact that Zach was presented as too perfect is a reason why this is not a very good story (nor a good ntr). There’s no tension or mystery if the choice for Sophie (or for any woman, as you put it) is this obvious.

The story presented “reasons against Zach” for Sophie: He’s her student, he’s much younger and she’s (somewhat happily) married to Felix.
But it dealt with them in shallow, unsatisfactory ways.

Zach’s younger - He’s presented as mature beyond his years. More mature than Sophie in ways he shouldn’t. Sophie has no trouble connecting with much younger man that would have different upbringing and different priorities in life (Why is he a family man, ready to settle down as a teenager?)

Zach’s her student - This has not been presented as being a major negative. “What if we’re found out” is downplayed and only used as a cheap thrill for sex scenes.

Marriage with Felix - Reduced to Sophie constantly saying to herself “I still love Felix” until she stopped and mundane scenes where Sophie is progressively more and more annoyed at Felix. It’s difficult to write a believeable and interesting married relationship, so I don’t blame the devs much on this one.

Additionally, the corruption aspect, which is usually a big part of ntr, in this game leads to… happy, loving relationship with a perfect man? That’s not corruption. Sophie’s been hinted at becoming sadistic by belittling Felix but even that was just a brief phase for her. She’s settled to be quite well adjusted person.

 

[Nefurien]

The fact that Zach was presented as too perfect is a reason why this is not a very good story (nor a good ntr). There’s no tension or mystery if the choice for Sophie (or for any woman, as you put it) is this obvious.

The story presented “reasons against Zach” for Sophie: He’s her student, he’s much younger and she’s (somewhat happily) married to Felix.
But it dealt with them in shallow, unsatisfactory ways.

Zach’s younger - He’s presented as mature beyond his years. More mature than Sophie in ways he shouldn’t. Sophie has no trouble connecting with much younger man that would have different upbringing and different priorities in life (Why is he a family man, ready to settle down as a teenager?)

Zach’s her student - This has not been presented as being a major negative. “What if we’re found out” is downplayed and only used as a cheap thrill for sex scenes.

Marriage with Felix - Reduced to Sophie constantly saying to herself “I still love Felix” until she stopped and mundane scenes where Sophie is progressively more and more annoyed at Felix. It’s difficult to write a believeable and interesting married relationship, so I don’t blame the devs much on this one.

Additionally, the corruption aspect, which is usually a big part of ntr, in this game leads to… happy, loving relationship with a perfect man? That’s not corruption. Sophie’s been hinted at becoming sadistic by belittling Felix but even that was just a brief phase for her. She’s settled to be quite well adjusted person.

Other endings might be better, but they won’t change that this ending is bad and it came first.

This ending is bad for YOU. You should maybe specify it while writing, seems like you're speaking the truth when for me and many others it's a perfect ending.

 

[blewbury]

The story presented “reasons against Zach” for Sophie

What about this reasons? The "perfect man" is a slut, huh?



And is Sophie the only sadistic person, really? Nobody uploaded her pics on school's PC for Felix to see? Nobody was humiliating Felix here and there every time them 3 were in one room? Nobody shit-talked Felix when he found Zach and Sophie together?

I personally find it hilarious how almost everyone complaining about this ending are simplifying the story and than complain about their simplified image instead of real story. I guess all you disgusting people just clicked through all the text not reading it, just lurking for porn pictures, and that's the root of the issue

 

[blewbury]

if Felix had the same dick as Zack, it wouldn't have ended like this

Do you know we had this talk like 20 pages before and 10 versions ago and Azienda actually had put in this game the Sophie's line where she exclusively states that even if Felix had Zach's dick she still wouldn't be with him? Now you know.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Still trying to understand the necessity of sending Felix all those videos if they were so happy. Also where was Felix balls went off on Amy but not his wife. This ending was so all over the place.

 

[Nefurien]

What about this reasons? The "perfect man" is a slut, huh?

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And is Sophie the only sadistic person, really? Nobody uploaded her pics on school's PC for Felix to see? Nobody was humiliating Felix here and there every time them 3 were in one room? Nobody shit-talked Felix when he found Zach and Sophie together?

I personally find it hilarious how almost everyone complaining about this ending are simplifying the story and than complain about their simplified image instead of real story. I guess all you disgusting people just clicked through all the text not reading it, just lurking for porn pictures, and that's the root of the issue

Many people don't read and skip dialogues. Even the guy a few posts ago who talked about a "bad" ending said that he skipped dialogues. And now he thinks he can give an opinion about the game.

In the last updates Zack showed, including the scene at the amusement park but also others, that he faced major changes in his life and opened up to Sophie showing his weaknesses too. All those who talk about an abrupt ending where he goes from being a guy who fucks anyone, -which by the way is false because since he started his affair with Sophie he stopped doing that, continuing only sporadically with Amy with whom he had a deeper relationship- to a family man, simply didn't read the story or they did but don't understand it.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Many people don't read and skip dialogues. Even the guy a few posts ago who talked about a "bad" ending said that he skipped dialogues. And now he thinks he can give an opinion about the game.

In the last updates Zack showed, including the scene at the amusement park but also others, that he faced major changes in his life and opened up to Sophie showing his weaknesses too. All those who talk about an abrupt ending where he goes from being a guy who fucks anyone, -which by the way is false because since he started his affair with Sophie he stopped doing that, continuing only sporadically with Amy with whom he had a deeper relationship- to a family man, simply didn't read the story or they did but don't understand it.

Maybe I didn't understand but what was the purpose 5 years later did he and Sophia sending Felix sex videos. Being a family man. What did I miss. Seems he was still a dick and she was a hoe.

 

[Nefurien]

Maybe I didn't understand but what was the purpose 5 years later did he and Sophia sending Felix sex videos. Being a family man. What did I miss. Seems he was still a dick and she was a hoe.

It's almost certain that Sophie doesn't know about the videos. In her pov you can see that she thinks only about her family. The one who sends the videos and pics is Zack, and the motivation for that I think can be simplified to: he enjoys doing it. He probably gets turned on knowing he's tormenting him. Zack always hated Felix since the beginning of the story, and one of the motivations for him trying to fuck Sophie is most likely that she was his wife, in addition to the other reasons he said during the game, being hot, innocent and so on.

But his plan went “wrong” because during Sophie's seduction, the very fact that it was difficult to win her over and took months, made them get to know each other better, talking about the books they read, the shows they watch, their hobbies in general. And that's where Zack's plan to just fuck Sophie changed to something else. The love "trap" got him too. But the hate for Felix didn't vanish even after 5 years so you get the sex recordings and stuff sent to him.

 

[Adhdclassic]

It's almost certain that Sophie doesn't know about the videos. In her pov you can see that she thinks only about her family. The one who sends the videos and pics is Zack, and the motivation for that I think can be simplified to: he enjoys doing it. He probably gets turned on knowing he's tormenting him. Zack always hated Felix since the beginning of the story, and one of the motivations for him trying to fuck Sophie is most likely that she was his wife, in addition to the other reasons he said during the game, being hot, innocent and so on.

But his plan went “wrong” because during Sophie's seduction, the very fact that it was difficult to win her over and took months, made them get to know each other better, talking about the books they read, the shows they watch, their hobbies in general. And that's where Zack's plan to just fuck Sophie changed to something else. The love "trap" got him too. But the hate for Felix didn't vanish even after 5 years so you get the sex recordings and stuff sent to him.

I hope that is true. It would actually work well in future update. She finds out what he is doing to Felix and she gets pissed. Repercussions for what he's doing happen. Though I feel nate and Amy are unused assets. Especially since Nate likes him and Amy wanted to make it up to him. But I am sure that won't happen.

 

[captcha69]

Many people don't read and skip dialogues. Even the guy a few posts ago who talked about a "bad" ending said that he skipped dialogues. And now he thinks he can give an opinion about the game.

In the last updates Zack showed, including the scene at the amusement park but also others, that he faced major changes in his life and opened up to Sophie showing his weaknesses too. All those who talk about an abrupt ending where he goes from being a guy who fucks anyone, -which by the way is false because since he started his affair with Sophie he stopped doing that, continuing only sporadically with Amy with whom he had a deeper relationship- to a family man, simply didn't read the story or they did but don't understand it.

i quote doctor House here "people dont change" specially not if there is nothing at least traumatic happening to them, meeting Sophie and fking the shit out of her is not a traumatic experience that will change his life...the writer try to make sense of this ending but he showed us who Zack is at the start of the game, and because of that all the shit that comes out of his mouth is a lie, BUT with this ending, the moment he marry Sophie, now we have to believe that all the obvious lies from before were not lies ... like every time he show himself vulnerable in front of Sophie those were supposed to be lies, cause he is manipulating her, but now those were true...he stop having sex with all the other women cause he is "hunting" not cause of love, that´s the thing, i dont know how the reader can believe that Zack was a decent guy, he does nothing to give me that impresion, like even at the last moment of that game i was in total disbelieve waiting for him just to dump her ass xD

 

[link18]

Maybe I didn't understand but what was the purpose 5 years later did he and Sophia sending Felix sex videos. Being a family man. What did I miss. Seems he was still a dick and she was a hoe.

YOU skipped the text apparently huh, Zack was the one to push Sophie to humiliate Felix in the first place and when the game is finished it will be by choice if she will indulge in that or not
to put it simply (a delinquent stealing his teacher's wife) Zach enjoys humiliating Felix from the start and while he can still do it why stop if it is a fetish for him Felix had the option of changing his phone number and city disappearing but he didn't he is stuck dwelling on his past, Zach is always sending him pics for the whole five years not just after 5y for the suffering to stay fresh and rub it in his face like the bully that he is

i quote doctor House here "people dont change" specially not if there is nothing at least traumatic happening to them, meeting Sophie and fking the shit out of her is not a traumatic experience that will change his life..

A personal experience here a friend of mine was an alcoholic and a drug user then one day he had a kid, less than a month later he went to rehab now he is 6years sober is having a kid a traumatic experience lol

i dont know how the reader can believe that Zack was a decent guy, he does nothing to give me that impresion, like even at the last moment of that game i was in total disbelieve waiting for him just to dump her ass xD

Nobody is saying Zach is a good/decent guy Zach is a bully, Zach is a narcissist but that does not mean he can't be a good father or a good husband he loves to hurt people but not his own family and friends and Sophie was his gf now wife while he have a very reasonable reason to hate Felix now being her ex-husband
ps: that's every girl Wattpad dream guy the bad boy that she can tame for her benefit and her offspring

 

[Nefurien]

I hope that is true. It would actually work well in future update. She finds out what he is doing to Felix and she gets pissed. Repercussions for what he's doing happen. Though I feel nate and Amy are unused assets. Especially since Nate likes him and Amy wanted to make it up to him. But I am sure that won't happen.

I don't think we'll get a continuation of this ending, but it would be interesting to know what Sophie would do if she knew about Zack's messages. Maybe she gets upset? Or horny. In my head Sophie totally forgot about Felix since there's no mention at all of him in her pov after the divorce. So all this is probably something just from Zack's side. With Amy we got a conclusion, she tried to help Felix but he told her to go away. Nate is interesting though... might be that he's Felix's lifeline.

i quote doctor House here "people dont change" specially not if there is nothing at least traumatic happening to them, meeting Sophie and fking the shit out of her is not a traumatic experience that will change his life...the writer try to make sense of this ending but he showed us who Zack is at the start of the game, and because of that all the shit that comes out of his mouth is a lie, BUT with this ending, the moment he marry Sophie, now we have to believe that all the obvious lies from before were not lies ... like every time he show himself vulnerable in front of Sophie those were supposed to be lies, cause he is manipulating her, but now those were true...he stop having sex with all the other women cause he is "hunting" not cause of love, that´s the thing, i dont know how the reader can believe that Zack was a decent guy, he does nothing to give me that impresion, like even at the last moment of that game i was in total disbelieve waiting for him just to dump her ass xD

Zack is young. I have personally seen people change a lot when falling in love. Ever had a friend who is always hanging out with people on weekends but as soon as he finds a woman he falls in love with, he stops completely and changes life? The same thing happens to women too. So I would say the drastic change is actually him falling in love. We can say that the twist is that when you thought he was lying to Sophie, he probably wasn't. People can not like this, but it's not absurd. Imagine going to a person that loves another one and telling them "It doesn't make sense you love her." Would be funny seeing the reaction

About the ending, well... we can't know if 10 years later they get divorced as well... Games rarely let you see the characters until the moment they die of old age, so we can all speculate than in 20 years they divorce for whatever reason.

 

[Terix3]

Great ending even if Its not my favorite type of ending. I wonder what netorare are people playing when they are surprised by one of the quite common endings in netorare.

Funny people aren’t discussing what really matters in the update. Felix as expected was unable to move on, lacking friends that he could trust and rely on, he sinks in his misery. More so he turns out to be bitter man turning on Nate merely because he is in love with Amy. Undeniably he would accept Sophie back if she wanted to and in is prime candidate to be unwilling cuck that pretends to not know his wife is cheating.

We finally get a peek behind Brooks mask, I was quite right with my suspicions. We learn that he doesn’t really care about Felix and that he knew about the whole thing all along. Its implied that Brooks, Amy and Zach were all on this together.
It was surprising that Nate had crush on Amy, wasn’t he aiming at Danielle ? Or was that because Danielle refused him that he moved to Amy. Nevertheless now we know the string that will pull him into the whole thing.

 

[link18]

We finally get a peek behind Brooks mask, I was quite right with my suspicions. We learn that he doesn’t really care about Felix and that he knew about the whole thing all along. Its implied that Brooks, Amy and Zach were all on this together.
It was surprising that Nate had crush on Amy, wasn’t he aiming at Danielle ? Or was that because Danielle refused him that he moved to Amy. Nevertheless now we know the string that will pull him into the whole thing.

4some with Nate/Amy & Zach/Sophie on the horizon maybe !