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My point is I don't think they would have subbed in the first place whatever they could say to to feel better.
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Sure, of course the broke guys will never subscribe, but there are people who will have the money but don't see the need to subscribe if the update is constantly leaking. After all, we all like free things.
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- Feb 9, 2020
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Wait this dev barely have 300 supporters? He should have a 1k already... Damn I hope he gains at least 100 supporters from this update.
Considering he apparently mostly works on it during the weekend he probably has another occupation so not clambering for the crowdfunding money
- Apr 16, 2020
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Agreed, Baibai's marketing could use a little work, cause one needs to understand that he gets a lot of traffic and he isn't making use of that to gain money effectively.
I mean 5 dollars but still you have to wait 1 week? Might as well wait, that's what everyone would think. I mean it might it's probably gonna get leaked in 1 week, it ain't so worth it.
10 dollars to get instant access? Well it's an obvious choice to just subscribe to this....
But is this just it? No room for improvement?
Well obviously there is a problem in the early access date, at most 5 dollars should be 3 days-6 days wait and 10 dollars is for instant access. There is always a risk in leakage and and some would always think that there would be no need to even subscribe.
But that's not even the whole point, in this type of business little medium prices but a large amount of subscribers is where the money is at!
So there is a need to maintain customer satisfaction. Make it seem like its worth it to pay, as this game is really worth it.
Hypothetically speaking, a 5 dollar subscriber, played the game in a leaked source before the week. Now does he feel like his got his money's worth?
Again Hypothetically speaking, if there would be no leakage, 2 weeks passed, all is well, some was probably forced to subscribe due to no self control. It's a happy end right?
He got some good amount of money, all should work out. But next update, there's a leak. What would happen then?
The priority should always be getting loyal subscribers. And have a healthy amount of tier option that is optional like the 25 dollars subscriber for those who can afford it, and pay for it cause they love the game...
look at big games such as The Manor, My Pig Princess, The pilgrimage, Race of life and more as you can see, Real money comes from loyal fans who want to see game developers succeed and effectively sustain them. Even without constant update they get a good amount of money.
Short term profit like this creates problems.
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There is also the previews and occasional polls
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I get all my updates from F95's frontpage. I don't even check the new posts from the devs I support. I find it a lot more convenient. I also, for the most part, check the forums after the updates drop, for help and to read feedback. Anything else is just a waste of my time reading through thousands of posts like 'when is the update', 'the dev is sick', 'the dev is milking', etc.
So my point is, STOP thinking patreon is a supermarket once and for all. You give money to motivate creators to create! That's it! Everyone needs enough money to justify the work but not to much that they start slacking off. Give feedback to help improve things, pull your funding if you're not happy.
I'd say that's fair for big AAA games made by huge corporations instead of the ones made by indie devs, specially for those that are part of very niche audiences -such as AVNs-. It's absurd to think that leaking an update early does no damage to the dev earnings, even more so when there are different price options.
In a $60 game, sure, the pirates won't buy it at that price so leaking it won't really matter. In a $5-15 game? You can be sure that people who would've been willing to pay for it will chose not to if it ends up getting leaked.
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Maybe. Maybe not. But compared to a $60 game, you could also say that people are more inclined to buy a $5-15 game.
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Kinda off topic but I would like to know where the games are for $60. new games are $70 at least in next gen lol
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Dude I just pointed a flaw in the system that could help or Improve "things", how can people "give money to motivate creators to create" when the creators themselves are doing it so inefficiently and whether you like it or not, patreon is a opportunity to give stable income to artist all over the world, it's not so simple as you see it to be.
as for your first paragraph, just use Latest Update for update drops, search engines in the threads for help and reviews for reading feedbacks. I don't even know why you bothered to type it as it is irrelevant, especially cause you seem to prefer a very convenient life.
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Baibai has gained like 50 subscribers since the update comes out (or something like that because if I'm not wrong a few days ago he had like 280) imagine if it doesn't leak for at least a week.
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Incest is very easy to work around, the loli content isn't. His game would not be allowed on Patreon.