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If I don't want to do the Aiden Netorase path, do I lose access to corrupt path Catherine? Is it a simple romance path only if I turn down the NTR? Or do I lose access to Catherine's pathing completely? I searched in the thread and didn't really see a clear answer. Thanks in advance.
 

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If I don't want to do the Aiden Netorase path, do I lose access to corrupt path Catherine? Is it a simple romance path only if I turn down the NTR? Or do I lose access to Catherine's pathing completely? I searched in the thread and didn't really see a clear answer. Thanks in advance.
Cathrine is one of the main girls so you won't lose her, as currently only side girls' paths can be dropped. By choosing to cuck Aiden you just make your lewd interactions with Cath much faster, the same way following Alyvia's seduction path allows you get her content much earlier.

There's no content with Cathrine's seduction path, that's why you don't have a clear answer about it. We can only theorize that she will eventually fall in love with the MC by seeing in him the type of man Aiden will never be.
 
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If I don't want to do the Aiden Netorase path, do I lose access to corrupt path Catherine? Is it a simple romance path only if I turn down the NTR? Or do I lose access to Catherine's pathing completely? I searched in the thread and didn't really see a clear answer. Thanks in advance.
Fairly certain it's just a slightly different corruption route where you send photos or don't send photos likely more down the line. But basically you can do it with or without the photos and likely similar future content. Hopefully that makes sense
 
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If I don't want to do the Aiden Netorase path, do I lose access to corrupt path Catherine? Is it a simple romance path only if I turn down the NTR? Or do I lose access to Catherine's pathing completely? I searched in the thread and didn't really see a clear answer. Thanks in advance.
Catherine has a Corruption- and Seduction-Path, regardless if you want to send photos to Aiden or not. If on the Corruption-Path, you can send him the photos to be even more cruel to him. If you dont send him the photos, you will still be on her Corruption-Path.
 
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If I don't want to do the Aiden Netorase path, do I lose access to corrupt path Catherine? Is it a simple romance path only if I turn down the NTR? Or do I lose access to Catherine's pathing completely? I searched in the thread and didn't really see a clear answer. Thanks in advance.
Aiden and cathrine are in a relationship currently. If you go corruption route for cathrine, which means blackmailing her into sex, you will cuck Aiden. If you go seduction route, you stay "friends", but given cathrine's thoughts about the mc, it's likely she's going to go for him at some point on her own, just not as fast as through the corruption route.
Generally in this game, it's not a strict division between corruption and love like in other games.Even in seduction route, mc is still clearly dominant, mc is still actively pursuing the LIs and actively changing how they think through his actions so that they eventually fall for him.
If you go the corruption route with cathrine, there's an additional "ntr" variable concerning aiden. You can choose to show him a lew picture of stephanie. Which in turn will result in the mc sending aiden additional lewd pictures claiming that they are of steph, but it's actually cathrine.
So basically the choices are:
Blackmail cathrine into sex, send aiden photos.
Blackmail cathrine into sex, don't send aiden photos.
Seduce cathrine, making her realize that mc is better than aiden at some point in the future.
 

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I would understand if the dev wants to scrap the solo endings, especially if writing that many routes contributes to burnout. That said, it would be really nice if he does add them in. Solo routes really add to the replayability of a vn imo, since you can go back and focus only on the character you're most interested in at the time.
True, being able to choose between solo and harem is good for the player's experience, but for the developer it's quite complicated, I think a good idea is to build so that the ending or almost ending is solo, but then later he adds the harem endings. I think it's smart that he divided the 12 characters into groups to reduce the complexity of these endings.
 

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A funny thing that happened in update 0.9 was that the husband of that woman julia had the same name as my character, that was really funny, I thought my character was talking to himself. this game is really cool, I'm still reading it, I haven't finished version 0.9 yet.
 

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True, being able to choose between solo and harem is good for the player's experience, but for the developer it's quite complicated, I think a good idea is to build so that the ending or almost ending is solo, but then later he adds the harem endings. I think it's smart that he divided the 12 characters into groups to reduce the complexity of these endings.
Lmao, no that'd be a terrible idea. Most people are here for the harem, so that should go first.
 

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True, being able to choose between solo and harem is good for the player's experience, but for the developer it's quite complicated, I think a good idea is to build so that the ending or almost ending is solo, but then later he adds the harem endings. I think it's smart that he divided the 12 characters into groups to reduce the complexity of these endings.
To be fair it's probably not really as complicated as it sounds. If you have any choice at all other than full harem, you have to write a non-love-interest story for each girl that might not be chosen, regardless of if you can pick girls individually or only in groups. These probably aren't going to change all that much based on which girls the player does choose. Sure, if there are ten girls and you are allowed to choose yes or no to each individually that's over a thousand possible combinations, but most of those are going to be pretty similar to each other and easily combined.
 
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To be fair it's probably not really as complicated as it sounds. If you have any choice at all other than full harem, you have to write a non-love-interest story for each girl that might not be chosen, regardless of if you can pick girls individually or only in groups. These probably aren't going to change all that much based on which girls the player does choose. Sure, if there are ten girls and you are allowed to choose yes or no to each individually that's over a thousand possible combinations, but most of those are going to be pretty similar to each other and easily combined.
Just write a completely different story, lmao. Yeah not complicated at all.
That's maybe how it works in sandbox games where each characters story might as well happen in another universe as far as interconnectivity is concerned but this is thankfully not that story.
The stories are heavily interconnected and that is one of this games great strenght. Mcs relationship with vicky would be vastly different if he hadn't been together with steph. His relationship with Steph would have been different if he wasn't so openly thirsting after other girls like cathrine. His relationship with Emily would be different. His relationship with Alyvia would be different if he hadn't gone after jackie. His relationship with Abigail is strongly influenced by whether or not you have pursued mrs. clements.
You can't just make a relationship platonic in this game and expect the rest of the story to remain the same. That's not how this story works and thanks fuck for that, because it's a much more interesting story as a result.
 

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Thanks to Justonemore20 for finding a lot of stuff. I've tried to fix it all except the moaning tracks (I don't play with sound) and the stuff mentioned in days I haven't gotten to yet (code on day7 for example. I have written it down, just hoping BaiBai_ will fix it before I get to it lol).

D5 has been done for a while now, but I don't want to post it if the new phone-stuff breaks the old files. I'll go through the days I've done when the update is posted and make sure they work, then I'll post the files. When the update is posted I won't view the thread (or DMs) except when posting the fixed files to avoid spoilers. So if you have things to tell me, then I won't see it in the thread and will be slow to answer if it's DM'd.
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It's completely understandable if you think I'm overdoing things, and if you prefer the original text then that's awesome. I'm just changing it for my own sake, so if people prefer it the way I do, then that's awesome too.
 
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I think a good idea is to build so that the ending or almost ending is solo, but then later he adds the harem endings.
That seems to be what most devs do (the ones that work them separately at least). Makes sense because it is a lot more work (writing and rendering) completing all the solo paths, and then you can probably re-use a good % of those renders later for the harem story path by just changing the dialogue accompanying those images.

The amount of new rendering and writing for the harem ending is by definition less because you are combining/consolidating storylines as you approach the finish. And since you've already explored and mapped out their individual characters more fully in the solo routes, understanding how they would fit into a larger group would be a lot easier.

If you try to do the harem route first, you're probably going to have to take a lot of time to fully explore each LI individually first anyway to make the harem ending believeable and consistent character-wise with the later solo endings, so...why not release that individual LI content (solo paths) as you work them out and then go back to assemble all those ready-to-use pieces for the harem ending afterward?

I play for harem endings 99% of the time, but you can't ignore the logic most devs use when finishing the solo routes first. (y)
 

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That seems to be what most devs do (the ones that work them separately at least). Makes sense because it is a lot more work (writing and rendering) completing all the solo paths, and then you can probably re-use a good % of those renders later for the harem story path by just changing the dialogue accompanying those images.

The amount of new rendering and writing for the harem ending is by definition less because you are combining/consolidating storylines as you approach the finish. And since you've already explored and mapped out their individual characters more fully in the solo routes, understanding how they would fit into a larger group would be a lot easier.

If you try to do the harem route first, you're probably going to have to take a lot of time to fully explore each LI individually first anyway to make the harem ending believeable and consistent character-wise with the later solo endings, so...why not release that individual LI content (solo paths) as you work them out and then go back to assemble all those ready-to-use pieces for the harem ending afterward?

I play for harem endings 99% of the time, but you can't ignore the logic most devs use when finishing the solo routes first. (y)
Yes, that's right, and if you look at it he's already started this construction of some solo routes in the last update (probably), those moments when we have choices of liking or not liking certain girls are probably the triggers that the developer has defined to clean up or build the final context of the story.
I don't really remember every choice in the story, but there's probably one girl who will always be with him in the end.
 
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Yes, that's right, and if you look at it he's already started this construction of some solo routes in the last update (probably), those moments when we have choices of liking or not liking certain girls are probably the triggers that the developer has defined to clean up or build the final context of the story.
I don't really remember every choice in the story, but there's probably one girl who will always be with him in the end.
I feel like the guys talking about solo routes haven't even played the game.
What are you talking about choice liking or not liking certain girls? The choices in the last update have been purely choices between seduction and corruption for main girls and whether or not to pursue side girls, like it has been in every update.

That seems to be what most devs do (the ones that work them separately at least). Makes sense because it is a lot more work (writing and rendering) completing all the solo paths, and then you can probably re-use a good % of those renders later for the harem story path by just changing the dialogue accompanying those images.

The amount of new rendering and writing for the harem ending is by definition less because you are combining/consolidating storylines as you approach the finish. And since you've already explored and mapped out their individual characters more fully in the solo routes, understanding how they would fit into a larger group would be a lot easier.

If you try to do the harem route first, you're probably going to have to take a lot of time to fully explore each LI individually first anyway to make the harem ending believeable and consistent character-wise with the later solo endings, so...why not release that individual LI content (solo paths) as you work them out and then go back to assemble all those ready-to-use pieces for the harem ending afterward?

I play for harem endings 99% of the time, but you can't ignore the logic most devs use when finishing the solo routes first. (y)
It really feels like you haven't played the game. The routes for the different characters are heavily interconnected. Harem isn't a matter of combinding and consolidating storylines as you put it. The default storyline of this game is already aimed straight at harem. The mc pursues all 6 main girls no matter what you choose. His goal is to get a harem no matter what you choose.
The characters are not only already well explored in this combined storyline, a large part of their character is explored because it's a combined storyline. The fact that mc persues other girls is vitaly important to the storyline and character development of multiple characters.
It's the solo routes in this game that would take extra effort, since they would require to disentangle the tight web of interconnected storylines that we currently have. Unless you do a lazy "And then they moved to another city to live happily ever after. The end." for every single one.

I am not just saying this because I personally want the harem more. What you are saying makes sense for a lot of games, whose storylines with different characters may as well take place in a different dimension from the storylines of the other characters, since there's zero overlap. But that is very specifically not the case in this game, so I am kind of confused with what you guys are talking about. Are you sure that you have played the game?
 
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