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Is anyone playing this on Joiplay able to get save files working? The game seems to run fine there so far but attempting to transfer save files has repeatedly failed, and I'm seeing lots of posts about not being able to save or load.
 

ACM2PT

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Is anyone playing this on Joiplay able to get save files working? The game seems to run fine there so far but attempting to transfer save files has repeatedly failed, and I'm seeing lots of posts about not being able to save or load.
use the last version of joiplay and the rempy pluging
 
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Wilwock

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Sorry, I got busy today and in the rush, forgot to add what is new for this rework model and also the comparison render, so consider this as a double post❤

New stuff on this rework character:

- Added a new head mod,
all the characters have these on them, this head mod helps me to do way more facial expressions with them.

- Added a shifting body, during the progression of the game the body of the MC will slightly change depending of your physical status, it wont be a huge difference, but you will notice the change from his after coma body to his healthy rip body.

- Around 15+ different hairstyles, That includes long, short, medium, ponytail, tidy, rebel, messy and different colors(for the wigs), all this will depend of the event, place, or time and also the costumes or undercover clothes. sadly you cant change the hair at your own wish, there will be a hairstyle predeterminate for the every event, environment or situation. these are a few of them❤



- 14 new set of clothes, some can only be obtainable during the completion or transition of a main event, on there we can include, everyday clothes, Jill jacket(Event), Jill sport clothes (event), Julia sport clothes (event), Waiter clothes (event), Police uniform (Event) stripper costume (Event) suit costume (Event) Hospital Patient clothes (event) swimsuit, Party clothes, and the rest are undercover mission costumes and also easter and holiday costumes! like the halloween and Christmas's costume.

- He is 12cm bigger than the old model, making him 172cm

- His Dick is also longer and thicker than before
❤ Dont have the measurement yet, but by eye is way more bigger than before, without looking abnormally big, also that the size on Hell will be different than the size on IRL, once I get a way to measure it I will share it.(I dont know how to measure it on my engine lol)

-Added the black nails and also the curse tattoo back, this was a detail that I added at the beginning of the old version but didnt added permanently in the old model, so at some point I lose that detail during the time... but now I added it permanently on the body

- Different eyes, same as nora this reworked MC can change his eyes depending of the situation.

- And Lastly, his past-life age, I know some of you will be surprised, but you will understand it and also love it, when you get to see the story behind it❤ it will be explained as main story during the whole game, and it is also really important for one of the ends of the game.❤

And thats all I think, the rest is considered spoilers so, I will leave them for the game.




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Do you have the other pictures of him from the subscribestar/patreon post? There were other shots of his outfits no one has posted yet.
 

Badjourasmix

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Nah, just wanted to voice my opinion in a way that is sure to deliver my point, by attacking the guy's ego. I see all these comments stating that the character remodels are improvements. Here's my take, and it's actually an honest one. Every single one of these models, every last one- all of them, are ten times worse than the models used up until now. So now the game will feature shit grammar and dialogue, an idea taken from the popular dojin that spawned this whole genre, long updates, and ugly ass character designs that I, a complete amateur, can make, because my man, they look like the baseline models the program gives you. Rule one of any media that lives by the art style- do not change the art style. Every one of you that says the characters look better? Get your eyes checked, and if your eyes are fine, well, no accounting for taste.
I mean you're entitled to your own opinion. But just because you don't like something doesn't mean everyone else is wrong and they can't have different opinions. You said you were trying to attack his ego but it seems like you should also check yours.
 

Skiraka

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Case in my earlier post's point. Also the Mc's now got a bodybuilder bod, all muscle like he's competing for Mister Universe. The Aizen hairstyle is frankly just cringe to look at. The impish attitude the mc deploys is nowhere near as impish when he ain't gremlin size, and he looks like a cocky asshat overall. I swear, there's like some sorta necklace on his neck, too- real fuckboi frat vibes.
It's not gonna be popular, but I agree with your points. All the original characters looked like the roles they were supposed to play. Especially the MC who was supposed to be a shota with a third leg. It's kinda silly to call this anything other than a completely new game.
 

randomman11

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I mean you're entitled to your own opinion. But just because you don't like something doesn't mean everyone else is wrong and they can't have different opinions. You said you were trying to attack his ego but it seems like you should also check yours.
So? I'm aware there's people with different opinions. That's why I said there's no accounting for bad taste. And it's laughable my ego's bigger than the dude getting praised on every single complete overhaul he makes on his community funded h game project that nets him, what, 5 digits an income each month?
Hey, I'm not the one paying the man to do these changes, so in the end my opinion doesn't matter. It's the opinion of the majority here, and since the majority wants downgrades to the art, in my personal opinion, then they're free to do so. And I'm completely free to come here and say this is a stupid idea, nobody will like it, and then leave to find a new h game of considerable length that may catch my fancy.
You know what I do however got? The satisfaction of saying my piece instead of quietly letting things proceed and then scratching my head at why the finished product is hot garbage. And that's worth all the flames of people who have half-baked opinions telling me my ego's big. I know it is. It's quite nice.
 

ScentedElf

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It's not gonna be popular, but I agree with your points. All the original characters looked like the roles they were supposed to play. Especially the MC who was supposed to be a shota with a third leg. It's kinda silly to call this anything other than a completely new game.
I also get the feeling that some of the reworked characters, especially when it comes to the core cast, have lost some of that distinct unique feeling. Jeanne is the best example as she now looks like a slightly nerdier version of the mom or sister reworks. But they're not bad models at the end of the day. If this was a new game made from scratch like you said then plenty of the messages doubting the models would instead be messages of nothing but the highest praise. So that's why I try to not to be too harsh with critiquing the models as I'm sure they are well made and I think the dev has put in the blood, sweat and tears into their making. I just miss the old models. But ultimately the dev has invested wayyyyy too much time into them so I doubt they'd ever roll back the changes they've made. Which just leaves us to feel awkward as we can't do anything but enjoy what the end result will be while we have that nagging thought in the back of our heads "what would this have looked like with ____'s old model?" which is one of the risks of such a drastic remake.

So my personal conclusion is to wait and see. And Snats better bring the heat with this new update showing all of the skills they acquired and the epiphany they had that made them decide on this remake. I don't care how much content there will be. However, what is there on release better be so good I'll forget all about the old game.
 
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Babbaba

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I also get the feeling that some of the reworked characters, especially when it comes to the core cast, have lost some of that distinct unique feeling. Jeanne is the best example as she now looks like a slightly nerdier version of the mom or sister reworks. But they're not bad models at the end of the day.
I want to expand on this a bit, so long-ass post inbound. As far as the quality of the models go, there's nothing inherently wrong with them. They check some boxes, and they do get the job done. If this is what the game started off with, then I'm sure a lot of people would still be very happy with the game. However, a lot of the criticism coming forward is taking into account what the game was like before these complete facelifts.

I don't know for sure if the dev is using one of those anime character creators that a lot of anime porn games seem to share, but if he is then the results he made stood out quite a bit from everything else. It's what drew me into his game in the first place. The old models were definitely rough around the edges, but they each looked unique and had a lot of charm and quirks about them that made them stand out not only against his own cast of characters, but every other porn game on the market.

While you can make the argument that these new models are, on a technical level, "better" than the old ones, they've lost everything that made them so iconic to begin with. They feel generic and lack that personal touch that was there before. You could honestly stand these characters side-by-side with any other generic anime porn game and they'd probably fit right in and you couldn't really tell them apart. You can even see people in this thread getting confused about who is who between the cast shown thus far. It feels like the difference between someone making their art, flaws and all, and someone using a generic AI art generator.

I get that he did this because the pipeline he had was plagued with issues, but a whole and total rework I think was the worst possible idea he could have done outside of just abandoning the project. He established a fanbase off of what he had made, but instead of making adjustments to his current cast to help alleviate the pipeline, he instead chose to actually start completely over. This clearly divided his fanbase, so now instead of all his current fans standing behind him, he alienates a decent amount of people who really liked his work.

Moreover, the dev has already expressed that he had been getting burnt out on his work even before he started this rework. Now that does factor into the pipeline he had with the models before, but I would argue that his workflow in general is going to lead to the exact same results. He spent sleepless nights generating thousands of unique images for every single conversation when all that effort amounted to slight head tilts throughout the dialogue. I appreciate the hard work, but he does not know how to prioritize his workload. With all the effort and time he's putting into these new models, I don't think there's any way he's going remain motivated to get back on that treadmill to deliver the same quality product he made before. At least not without sacrificing any semblance of reliable and regular updates.

We'll see though. I'll keep my eye on things and discuss what's happening, but I really don't have a lot of optimism for this product.
 

Gojii

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The complete changing of the MC's backstory confirmed I really don't care how "good" the remake is. Its not the same game anymore. This is a skinsuit-ing of what drew a lot of us in the first place and an overt cashgrab/grift.


Long poast is long:

Asserting that this is a "rework" and not a remake at this point is silly. This is especially with almost entirely changing the premise of the MC's story and character is just cut paste chunks of the story, while also radically changing multiple character's designs.

People forget that Snats had promised that after he finished the first part of the game they would put the efforts into refining an improved part 2 to it. Not going back and redoing the entire game they'd been working on for a few years from scratch.

When they put out the obvious cashgrab "make your character I will only do this one time ever!" it was transparent what the motivations were.

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I would say to some of you around here if you are truly upset, take the time to learn how to use Koikatsu studio, maybe get a number of people likeminded and make your own game. This is NOT a "don't like it make your own game hurr hurr" insult. I think the changes are, flat out dogshit. I'd be more interested in what people who actually take interest in a game with a little soul in it than making multiple characters more androgynous to appeal to?.... I have no idea. :LUL:

Also when is this game getting the gay tag already? Because there's no excuse with the "remake" anymore. :KEK:
 

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Now this thread have became a dogshit lmfao. I honestly don't care about the rework as rework basically means a new game tbh (Considering you change parts of the stories and characters in rework). If you enjoy the game then play it otherwise just get the fuck outta here. Complaining about shits won't achieve anything. None of the paying people will visit this thread or even agree with us. I think it stupid to support someone financially for so long without any contents and is basically a scam. Previous game already had quite a good amounts of problems (ignoring the bugs and tedious sandbox), bad body proportions, loli/shota looking characters and incest. All of these goes against patreon tos so it no wonder that this game is getting reworked. I personally won't have any complaint if snat make constant releases when all of these bs is completed but unlikely. Maybe he will take even longer since he doesn't like how something looks.
 

randomman11

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It's almost like someone forced him into a thread for a game he's getting for free, and then forced him to read other people's opinions he doesn't agree with. Thankfully that's not something that happens, and thankfully the forums have an ignore button for ragey whiney babies.
I was hoping to get this exact response. You see, it's perfectly fine for you to call me this, I don't mind. I just want to point out, that you're basically saying the only ones who get to comment on any sort of design, work, idea, are those who explicitly love the game. Me saying the game is going to fail is my opinion, and it's blunt and even to the point of being rude, fair. But it's a valid opinion. And that makes you, and everyone who thinks like you, the same whiney sort of baby that I am as you called me. At the very least my extremist comments resulted in some discourse over whether or not people find it agreeable what the came is coming up with, what flow it's going towards, which really is the overall goal of my posts. I want people to be able to say if they dislike something, without losing confidence to shmuck posts like yours calling them names at every turn. Sure, you're not the worst offender and I certainly have it coming for my attitude, but you're just an example, and still an offender either way. Anyways, this is my last comment on this thread, as I have nothing further to tack on, am not paying for the development, or anything else that would bring value to my posts. Hopefully this game won't be going down the, again in my opinion, drain. I'll be seeing that whenever the eventual remake update drops, and I'll freely admit to being in the wrong if it's good, to me.
 

Badjourasmix

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So? I'm aware there's people with different opinions. That's why I said there's no accounting for bad taste. And it's laughable my ego's bigger than the dude getting praised on every single complete overhaul he makes on his community funded h game project that nets him, what, 5 digits an income each month?
Hey, I'm not the one paying the man to do these changes, so in the end my opinion doesn't matter. It's the opinion of the majority here, and since the majority wants downgrades to the art, in my personal opinion, then they're free to do so. And I'm completely free to come here and say this is a stupid idea, nobody will like it, and then leave to find a new h game of considerable length that may catch my fancy.
You know what I do however got? The satisfaction of saying my piece instead of quietly letting things proceed and then scratching my head at why the finished product is hot garbage. And that's worth all the flames of people who have half-baked opinions telling me my ego's big. I know it is. It's quite nice.
I don't know what thread you've been reading but people have always criticized snats, hell even when the game first came out people were complaining that they didn't want trap content and the game was garbage because of that. Like I said you're entitled to your own opinion. It's ok to criticize the dev, I personally am not sure about some of the changes he made, like the mc and jeanne's design. But when you come here acting like you're the arbiter of good taste it just makes you look kind of pathetic to be honest. But hey if that makes you happy, more power to you.
 
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GNova

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No way!! mom said it was my turn to write paragraphs about a porn game!!

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skikkzg

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Shame I turned out to be right.
Good luck matching hundreds of other games you're now competing with, and I hope the general audience treats you well.
 
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