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But there are no false bugs, and I'm not mocking any players... except the dumbasses that post 2-star reviews. But they deserve it.
It's been awhile so I thought I would add a review, actually surprised I'd never done so before...
Pros: Well done renders, a great sense of humor, not a typical game with generic characters. A smoking hot redhead with a feisty and dark sense of humor.
Cons: Slow development/update cycle, choices don't seem to matter (yet), Shannon is so hot my marriage would be in trouble if she was real
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It is still early stages for this game and I can understand the frustration, I've been frustrated with the pace of the updates, however this is a hobby not a full time job and that is reflected in the update cycle. CB has been pretty good at communicating even when what he has communicated wasn't what we wanted to hear. To me the game will be well worth the wait if people can be patient.
Needs more Shannon...All games need more redheads, she is how you write and render a proper ginger.
*As if she'd give an old man like me any consideration
Pros: Well done renders, a great sense of humor, not a typical game with generic characters. A smoking hot redhead with a feisty and dark sense of humor.
Cons: Slow development/update cycle, choices don't seem to matter (yet), Shannon is so hot my marriage would be in trouble if she was real
* .It is still early stages for this game and I can understand the frustration, I've been frustrated with the pace of the updates, however this is a hobby not a full time job and that is reflected in the update cycle. CB has been pretty good at communicating even when what he has communicated wasn't what we wanted to hear. To me the game will be well worth the wait if people can be patient.
Needs more Shannon...All games need more redheads, she is how you write and render a proper ginger.
*As if she'd give an old man like me any consideration
In the forlorn hope that we don't have to go through this yet again, here are some of my thoughts. These points have been made before and have been argued over endlessly:
1) CarbonBlue is not incompetent. All code and images are exactly what they are supposed to be.
2) This game has strangeness programmed into it at the core level
3) The Dev is playing with both our emotions (don't you dare make Shannon sad!) and our expectations of how a game is supposed to react.
4) The game specifically not allowing you change the NPC's names has meaning. Maeve even comments on it.
5) Not being able to not-peek at Shannon has meaning. Though, why the hell would you not want to?
6) The MC not talking much has meaning. If you were to watch an MC from some outside point, they'd go from here to there, do this, pickup that, fuck the other thing. You tell MCs to do something and the NPCs react. Actual speech isn't something that comes up all that often.
7) Angel is not a slut. If you fucked Angel at her mother's house, and/or accepted the blowjob from Olivia when she was drunk in the car, then by all means, the MC is absolutely a slut.
8) Shannon doesn't need to be thwarted. She thwarts herself all the time. She just wants to believe she's a mastermind. The MC is toying with her.
9) Shannon is life.
10) CarbonBlue is not incompetent.
We don't understand what the meanings of a lot of things are yet, but the clues are slowly being given to us.
My personal (totally BS) current supposition is that the Maeve is an AI inhabiting the game's server and is making on-the-fly modifications to the game code/assets in an attempt to see how the MC reacts to what he thinks is a generic game.
1) CarbonBlue is not incompetent. All code and images are exactly what they are supposed to be.
2) This game has strangeness programmed into it at the core level
3) The Dev is playing with both our emotions (don't you dare make Shannon sad!) and our expectations of how a game is supposed to react.
4) The game specifically not allowing you change the NPC's names has meaning. Maeve even comments on it.
5) Not being able to not-peek at Shannon has meaning. Though, why the hell would you not want to?
6) The MC not talking much has meaning. If you were to watch an MC from some outside point, they'd go from here to there, do this, pickup that, fuck the other thing. You tell MCs to do something and the NPCs react. Actual speech isn't something that comes up all that often.
7) Angel is not a slut. If you fucked Angel at her mother's house, and/or accepted the blowjob from Olivia when she was drunk in the car, then by all means, the MC is absolutely a slut.
8) Shannon doesn't need to be thwarted. She thwarts herself all the time. She just wants to believe she's a mastermind. The MC is toying with her.
9) Shannon is life.
10) CarbonBlue is not incompetent.
We don't understand what the meanings of a lot of things are yet, but the clues are slowly being given to us.
My personal (totally BS) current supposition is that the Maeve is an AI inhabiting the game's server and is making on-the-fly modifications to the game code/assets in an attempt to see how the MC reacts to what he thinks is a generic game.
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This is pretty much my guess, too, right now.
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Everyone who knows coding who looks at my code would take issue with this.
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It could be that Maeve is not an AI. But what we have is a Matrix situation, and Maeve is MC's Trinity.
Or maybe its MC who is an AI-in-the-making, and the game is a simulation to build him into a true AI by learning through 'human' interaction and love. Thats why he doesn't speak all that much. He's a bot. And Maeve is the human researcher interfacing into the simulation to help the process go smoothly.
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I certainly agree with the ideas behind this at the very least. Maeve certainly seems external to whatever it is we're doing.
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Yeah. At the same time, she's a weird one in that she seems part of the simulation/whatever as well. Like how she behaves when MC gets roofied. Maybe its not so much "Maeve" being the one outside the system, but the external being hijacks "Maeve" when it interacts with the simulation/whatever.
So she's normal most of the time. But the moments of glitchiness or her weird comments is the external being looking in.
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Of course; there are several women in the game. Just choose the cookie you want to eat.
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incompetent fucking genius would be more like it
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I Just tried the game, really nice work Dev! But I will drop this.
WARNING!!!!
These opinions are strictly personal and do not reflect the objective quality of the game.
I really dislike the MC: he's so silent, never talk, he barely responds when someone speak to him, no inner thoughts. And he's too passive for my taste.
Some choices are really annoying, e.g.: why do you give us the chance to refuse (two times in the same dialogue!) to go with Olivia, when you can't avoid that and she force you to go? If an event is important and unavoidable for the story, this type of choices are useless and irritating. There are better ways to manage traits/relations points.
The girls: sexy and hot, all of them, but I really don't like them till now. Olivia is manipulative. Angel is an exhibitionist. Shannon... after the first day at college, I just want to send her to fuck herself. Maeve... she emanates supernatural vibes. I don't feel like I can trust them. To now, for my tastes, they're all great for fapping, but awful romance material. I enjoy the porn, but I have more interest in the romance when I play a game with "romance" in the tags.
Maybe I'll try this again when the final release will be out, I hope to be proved wrong then. Good luck with your project Dev!
WARNING!!!!
These opinions are strictly personal and do not reflect the objective quality of the game.
I really dislike the MC: he's so silent, never talk, he barely responds when someone speak to him, no inner thoughts. And he's too passive for my taste.
Some choices are really annoying, e.g.: why do you give us the chance to refuse (two times in the same dialogue!) to go with Olivia, when you can't avoid that and she force you to go? If an event is important and unavoidable for the story, this type of choices are useless and irritating. There are better ways to manage traits/relations points.
The girls: sexy and hot, all of them, but I really don't like them till now. Olivia is manipulative. Angel is an exhibitionist. Shannon... after the first day at college, I just want to send her to fuck herself. Maeve... she emanates supernatural vibes. I don't feel like I can trust them. To now, for my tastes, they're all great for fapping, but awful romance material. I enjoy the porn, but I have more interest in the romance when I play a game with "romance" in the tags.
Maybe I'll try this again when the final release will be out, I hope to be proved wrong then. Good luck with your project Dev!
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I obviously can't argue with your being annoyed or irritated about them; you feel what you feel. You should know, however, that the choices in the game are actually not useless. Some of them are jokes (that apparently a lot of people fail to understand). Some of them give small variations (a different image or a different bit of dialogue). But a lot of them change the MC over the course of the game, whether you notice at the time or not. There are stats such as: whether the MC is interested in someone; whether the MC is a perv; whether the MC is a nice guy; whether the MC picks up on clues or is dense; etc. Just because you still get a scene anyway (going with Olivia, for instance) does not mean the choices you make have no effect.
So you have a problem with LIs in a VN being three-dimensional, well-developed, interesting, and unusual characters? You're of course entitled to your own opinion, but I personally find all of them quite lovely. There is also far more going on inside each of them than the reductive labels you've applied to them, just so you know. If you remember all of the dialogue of the different characters throughout the game, you'll start to see levels of unhappiness, dissatisfaction with life, low self-esteem, and other problems going on inside the heads of various characters.
And, of course, much of it is in good humor as well. Again, obviously you can do whatever you like. Maybe you just can't connect with the characters. I don't always finish a book I've started, so I get it. I do, however, think you're missing a lot in this game that could make it more enjoyable for you. But if you feel you should move on, I hope you find many other games you enjoy instead.
TBH, choosing to take a more romantic approach with the women is definitely possible. Perhaps you've just been making the wrong choices. There aren't candlelight dinners or walks along the beach yet, but the seeds of romance can definitely be planted already in the game. (And again, choices you make do at times alter responses from characters, either right away or later on.)