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Doorknob22

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I have added an experimental feature for the world map: Skip 5 turns. This button is located along with the existing Next Turn which will remain in the game for finer granularity.

Playing the (map) game feels much more "relaxed" with far less "Spam Next Turn while almost nothing happens", and it feels now there's something to do after almost every "Skip 5". The skipping stops if anything meaningful happens, like an interlude or troops arriving to their destination.

If anyone wishes to give this build a try, please DM me. Note that here's no additional lewd content in this version, only changes to the world map game. And if you wish to try it, you'll probably need to start a new game as there's no sense in testing this feature while you're already controlling most of the Eastern Sister.
 

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Some thoughts after conquering the Eastern Sister using the Skip 5 (and Skip 1) button.
  • The feeling of "skip-grind" is all but gone. If BertramBiggles reported about 360 turns to conquer the continent, (i.e. 360 "Next Turn" clicks) I estimate the "Skip 5" experience to about 120-130 clicks, i.e. 66% reduction.
  • At the end of each (Skip 5) turn, you will usually have something to do...
  • ... However, it will not always be something very interesting. In fact, after taking about 5 fiefdoms I got so bored I stopped playing (and started working on animations, don't worry...).
  • However #2, During my test, I wasn't exactly playing the game in the way it's meant to be played, i.e. skipping all quests and Wenches interactions while focusing solely on the world map. The world map should be a 3-5 minutes change of pace between quests and Wench visits. It was never designed to stand on its own.
  • Having said that, if I could make the Khaganate management more interesting, it would obviously make the whole experience better.
  • I often had much more troops available than gold, meaning I wanted to go on another conquest but had to wait until I could fully stabilize the latest fiefdom. This effect was more noticeable early in the game, but once I had 5-6 fiefdoms I felt I had all the resources I needed.
  • The "Agents of Wench X reduce Morale/Obedience" are eventually boring and I didn't even bother to read them. Once "the machine" is big enough, it "fixes itself", regarding those Morale/Obedience drops. Or they are simply not very painful.
  • It's never clearly explained exactly what do some buildings do (Fort, Gold Mine).
  • At 200 gold, Fortified Garrison is ridiculously overpriced.
  • Garrisons are bloody essential for maintaining Obedience. It's very hard to play without them.

Action items/ideas to test:
  1. Gently balance resource accumulation so Troops will match Gold better. Perhaps even modify the Yield of the "early" fiefdom to give a little more gold at the expense of Troops. Or maybe have them come with a Gold mine?
  2. Make random events more dramatic, especially with correlation to the number of fiefdoms you control. Burn buildings. More dramatic Obedience drops, etc.
  3. Add New events, again, perhaps correlated to the number of fiefdoms the player controls.
  4. Add more meaningful description in the message shown after you build.
  5. Reduce Fortified Garrison cost to lower two digits and/or find an extra something cool for it to do.
 
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HGW

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Problem:
The "Agents of Wench X reduce Morale/Obedience" are eventually boring and I didn't even bother to read them. Once "the machine" is big enough, it "fixes itself", regarding those Morale/Obedience drops. Or they are simply not very painful.

Solution:
Make those events more dramatic, especially with correlation to the number of fiefdoms you control. Burn buildings. More dramatic Obedience drops.
I feel that just tweaking the numbers isn't really gonna make it better, i mean sure if it wounds you more it's going to affect your behavior more but you can't really mitigate those events so its only going to be more annoying to deal with and encourage save scumming. I think you should be able to "manage" the losses to an extent, for instance the event happens and it gives you the choice to just tank it and have a building destroyed, or spend some Gold/Troops/Morale/Obedience instead. That way you can lean more on things you can afford to lose and the punishments can be harsher because you can balance then depending on your current circumstances.
 

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I feel that just tweaking the numbers isn't really gonna make it better, i mean sure if it wounds you more it's going to affect your behavior more but you can't really mitigate those events so its only going to be more annoying to deal with and encourage save scumming. I think you should be able to "manage" the losses to an extent, for instance the event happens and it gives you the choice to just tank it and have a building destroyed, or spend some Gold/Troops/Morale/Obedience instead. That way you can lean more on things you can afford to lose and the punishments can be harsher because you can balance then depending on your current circumstances.
Excellent idea! Make the player more active in events and not just watching them passively.
 
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I have a problem since I conquered the last territory, I have the message that you saw on the screen which appears everywhere except in the main room of the stronghold, and impossible to remove it when I click on ok it just moves on to the next sentence, but the message remains... Any solution to this problem?
 

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how many traps are in the game? I kinda want my own submissive femenine male harem
Three so far and all are encountered during a quest, hence not taken back to the palace and no harem. Traps in Vae Victis - Khan are the seasoning, not the main course.

I have a problem since I conquered the last territory, I have the message that you saw on the screen which appears everywhere except in the main room of the stronghold, and impossible to remove it when I click on ok it just moves on to the next sentence, but the message remains... Any solution to this problem?
You're playing version 0.10.7. You can either download scripts.rpy from the first message in this thread and put it in game directory or download 0.10.9 completely. The result should be the same.
 

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Hehe you are right. Btw i m just started your game and i m still on early game. So far i really liked it. Just doing first infltrate mission at Ziruan. I wanna ask if you reveal your true identity you choose Alam or Domia, can you take other option later somehow?, if you go with plan you can ravish Fahda or not, does this make difference, can you fuck Fahda later if you don't ravish her at there?, and stick with the plan option seems better for now since both Alam and Domia comes to your palace?
The details all the options. The Ziruan quest is probably the first and last quest where I made the player choose "hard" choices, i.e. forcing the player to choose between two significant contents. But yes: if you'll rape anyone in this quest, you won't be able to recruit Fahda later.
 

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The details all the options. The Ziruan quest is probably the first and last quest where I made the player choose "hard" choices, i.e. forcing the player to choose between two significant contents. But yes: if you'll rape anyone in this quest, you won't be able to recruit Fahda later.
I liked the sand queen.
 
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