Views on Netorare

Views on Netorare?

  • Yes, I am a fan of Netorare

  • If there's Netorare, I don't mind

  • I am only a fan of Netorase

  • I have mixed emotions towards Netorare (explain in thread)

  • I dislike Netorare


Results are only viewable after voting.

desmosome

Conversation Conqueror
Sep 5, 2018
6,130
14,145
You need to learn what the word misogyny means. The view you described isn't misogynistic, it's cynic. It's the same as the view that "men are just one hot young woman away from leaving their old fat wife". Both views are true to an extent, as there ARE people like this (in fact it's probably the majority if they are given an option) and it's completely normal. If great sex is important to you in relationships then you have the right to leave your partner, though it would be irresponsible in many situations like if you have children. People cheat when they want both emotions from a skilled lover and the safety of a serious relationship. Just check divorce rates in most countries, NTR is one of the closest porn genres to reality. Humans are just not created by evolution to stay loyal for life. Monogamy is socially enforced, mostly by religion, as it's necessary to raise children properly. But it's not natural for us humans, our evolutionary sexual strategy is serial monogamy with elements of polygamy.



IRL it's usually not about rape or "superior dick". But just about meeting a more physically attractive guy with some confidence and often, indeed, better skill in sex. IRL having a big dick doesn't mean that much if you can't last or do good oral, but for some women, the size is indeed important. People cheat all the time, people change partners all the time. Most guys were NTRed at least once in their life and I'm not talking about being cheated on, because if your high school crush started to fuck someone else, it counts as NTR as well. If your GF broke up with you to get with another guy (this is the case in 90% of cases) it counts as NTR even if she hadn't cheated while dating. This is why so many people hate NTR by default - they experienced it and didn't like it. They associate porn with their real-life problems.
Youu don't know what NTR is so I won't argue with your weird logic. Yes, people cheat lol.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Trapitalism101
Mar 12, 2018
254
413
I politely disagree. I agree with @desmosome, and his take on the subject. I do not think we will come to a productive conclusion on this subject.
What do you mean, disagree? Pretty much everything I said was a fact, not an opinion.

Youu don't know what NTR is so I won't argue with your weird logic. Yes, people cheat lol.
Nothing is weird, google the modern definition of netorare. Netorare isn't just about cheating. There are sister ntr, mother ntr, friend ntr, etc.
 
Dec 24, 2020
450
1,034
What do you mean, disagree? Pretty much everything I said was a fact, not an opinion.


Nothing is weird, google the modern definition of netorare. Netorare isn't just about cheating. There are sister ntr, mother ntr, friend ntr, etc.
You are stating your opinion as fact, which makes you seem super disingenuous. You seem, based on what you have written ITT to have a view point of relationships and women that seems rooted in soggy knees, whether you believe so or not. That is also fine, as this is a porn forum, not a chapel. The fact you seem to think NTR is realistic strikes me as strange, and a quite a bit weird.
 

Freki.g

Well-Known Member
Jun 10, 2020
1,568
2,382
Any tag if developed well can involve the player, in my opinion in general, every story must contain a conflict between the moral position of the characters and the fight for that position.
And I also believe that for this reason there are exclusive NTR fans, because many stories with this tag often trigger the aforementioned conflict (albeit often poorly managed).
 
Last edited:
Mar 12, 2018
254
413
You are stating your opinion as fact, which makes you seem super disingenuous. You seem, based on what you have written ITT to have a view point of relationships and women that seems rooted in soggy knees, whether you believe so or not. That is also fine, as this is a porn forum, not a chapel. The fact you seem to think NTR is realistic strikes me as strange, and a quite a bit weird.
What you described as misogyny is cynism by the definition of the word—so this part was a fact. What I said about human biology is what they teach at Stanford when you learn evolutionary biology of humans, so this was a fact, too. The divorce rates in most modern countries are as high as 50% this is a fact and it's also a fact that the most common reason for divorce is infidelity. If you google the statistics, you'll find that in the USA over a 40 year period, 67 percent of first marriages end up in divorces.

So yeah, pretty much all I said in that quote is a fact, not an opinion. My actual opinion about ntr is an opinion, but you didn't quote that part of my post.
 

Deleted member 609064

Well-Known Member
May 11, 2018
1,249
1,586
I suppose in my eyes the "better man (or woman in some games)" is the thing that I see as the basis of the soggy knees rabbit hole. It boils women and their loyalty down to something akin to how some men look at cars. Upgrades and downgrades. It's the MGTOW talking point that women are predators out to dump you at the drop of a hat. It boils the relationship down to an object to be won or lost. Not something bound by love, understanding or need.
There are people like this. Not saying it is a majority but a substantial number. History (globally) is full of examples.

Men and women can be sexual predators. Many of the women in porn today have very high sex drives. They would still like to pair up with someone but many guys can't handle the fact the beautiful woman who likes them may have sucked or still be sucking stranger dick.

It really boils down to whether or not sex and love can exist without the other. Can you love someone without fucking them, and can you fuck someone without loving them? Again, I think history is loaded with examples that it is possible to separate the two. Maybe not for everyone, but it's not that rare.

We (people in the West) tend to see everything through a Judeo-Christian lens. We don't think about how some peoples have lived for centuries, where every man in the group is considered a father to the children of the tribe (due to group breeding). In some cultures, paternity isn't important, and actually would undermine social cohesion.

Let me pitch a thing to you off the top of my head. Lets say you play a game with a MC who gets cucked super hard, and his wife/gf gets pounded by Dr. Butt Stuffington. Lets say the relationship is stable in all other aspects, money is not an issue, and the MC and his gal get along outside of the fact <insert reason for fuckery>. After the game runs its course we get to the pinnacle where Butt Stuffington goes to take the Sig other away from the MC as usual, amid the usual humilating taunting. then we have a twist; Wife/gf says "why would I leave MC?". Boom! True Femdom at the last minute. The woman has never lost her agency, hasn't been manipulated, and we still touch all the humiliating inadequacies as the genera demands.
Whatever turns people on is cool with me. I don't judge fetishes or narratives. People can't control what turns them on, or who they fall in love with.
 
  • Thinking Face
Reactions: Trapitalism101

Deleted member 609064

Well-Known Member
May 11, 2018
1,249
1,586
Sounds like some PUA shit lol.
I recommend " ". It is a magnificent read on sexual dynamics over history, and the social consequences of different systems of mating and breeding.

It's not really about nice guys finishing last. It's "nice guys" finishing last. These are the people with low self esteem who are undesirable in every way. They blame the woman for their own failures. They expect romance/sex for being a good "friend."
Yes, they do not understand sexual dynamics and have naive expectations of romantic relationships.

Low self-esteem is probably at the root of most modern social issues.

Attractive qualities are not rocket science to figure out. Be good looking (grooming/style is like 90% of this), confident, don't be an asshole to others, be rich (lol), don't be retarded, be successful in some field, good sense of humor, etc.
Studies have shown that wealth isn't that important. Character trumps money and looks. A man with a purpose and passion is often irresistible.

Anyways why am I talking about this? NTR... right... Classic japanese style NTR is a fantasy and it is meant to be misogynistic. You think real people get raped into liking big cocks? You think the average woman can actually fall so low because of sexual training that she abandons her family and entire life to live as a cocksleeve?

The swinging/cheating/netorase/willing cuck type of stuff of course happens in real life, but the NTR where a woman is stolen due to a superior dick awakening the female instincts... not so much.
Often the superior dick is attached to the superior man. The stronger man, the more capable man, the more accomplished man, and yes, in those circumstances, there are women who will "trade up". There is a reason why women are so discriminating about who they date and sleep with. Why married women with beautiful kids cheat with their husband's brother, or a co-worker. Women don't conform to men's expectations of their behavior. We've been trying for thousands of years with little success.

Women and men cheat constantly, and always have, ever since we tried to make monogamy the only model. On the surface, people go to church and make like they are chaste but the sex drive will not be denied. Just like when homosexuality has been condemned and made illegal, people were still doing it. Reproduction is the highest priority of most living species.

As far as some women becoming cock-sleeves, I'd recommend you look into the BDSM space. There is no shortage of women (and men) who want to be "owned" by someone else. To be taken care of by someone else to surrender their agency to someone else. It turns them on, and on some level, fulfills them.
 

Freki.g

Well-Known Member
Jun 10, 2020
1,568
2,382
Reality and fantasy often do not coincide, it can happen that you do not want to be a spectator of something that can involve you in reality but, it can also happen that something excites you that you would not face in reality because you are sure that that event cannot occur or, at the limit , if it happened you know that you would not react like the character of a fantastic story you are spectating (in any case you feel safe because you only feel involved as a spectator).
In this regard, every opinion is positive if it does not mentally disturb the person.
 

Omae wa shinda

Well-Known Member
May 25, 2020
1,511
2,580
View attachment 1405746
....fact....popcorn is yummy......
and then the community roar with philosophers well as radicals with denialism.
I always like a thread with ntr because people would come out from far south and north just to spark a ntr / non-ntr war talk.

My view on NTR is like an alcohol beverage. Depend on what kind of brand and condition alcohol you drink.
I say the finest wine which for NTR is a lady did cheat / NTR situation fuckery occur and the guy(MC) tough it up and beat the asshole up , get his relationship with the lady together and move on.
Bad pint would be a nonsense situation NTR to occur which can be avoid but for some "plot" reason is fallen to debauchery , the art and story bad, MC or FMC like a unusual cuck with bad reason could save his/her lover but for "plot" reason which i will drop and called it bad writing.

It would need to be logical reason for NTR to occur otherwise is like a forced fuckery show with no goal nor pathway or plan. There also need to be reaction from the affected otherwise the whole thing would be "cheating" genre which is a grey boundary between genre of "cheating" or "NTR".

If you want to play a NTR game, i suggest you DON'T put yourself in when you play unless you want to suffer the pain as the MC/FMC or you're a masochists pig. Just enjoy the Shakespeare's show like a proper audience you are.
If you don't want to play, that fine.
 
Mar 12, 2018
254
413
It really boils down to whether or not sex and love can exist without the other. Can you love someone without fucking them, and can you fuck someone without loving them? Again, I think history is loaded with examples that it is possible to separate the two. Maybe not for everyone, but it's not that rare.
Sex and love aren't really connected that well. Very often people fall in love or have a crush on someone way before having sex with them. There would be no one-sided crushes if it wasn't the case. And obviously, sex doesn't need love in the first place, otherwise, this forum and porn, in general, wouldn't exist. A male's libido isn't connected to love in the slightest. It's a bit different for women who, in the vast majority of cases, need an emotional connection to enjoy sex.
If you want to play a NTR game, i suggest you DON'T put yourself in when you play unless you want to suffer the pain as the MC/FMC or you're a masochists pig. Just enjoy the Shakespeare's show like a proper audience you are.
If you don't want to play, that fine.
Emotional pain is the whole point of ntr. Nothing wrong with that, the best stories are the best because they can make you, the reader, feel strong emotions, good or bad. It's like telling people to stop feeling empathy towards characters in a drama so that they wouldn't cry. People watch melodramatic shows and read dramatic fiction to cry, most people love it when fiction provokes emotions in them, even negative ones. For example, Fumetsu no Anata e and The Green Mile are loved for how much of a tearjerker they are. Of course, there are always psychopaths who feel nothing watching such shows and there are those who don't like those emotions, but they are the minority.
 

karlsberg

Newbie
Aug 16, 2019
70
167
I recommend " ". It is a magnificent read on sexual dynamics over history, and the social consequences of different systems of mating and breeding.
It's a pop science book with a lot of big talk and little actual rigor. Good for biotruthing, but dismissed by actual social anthropologists.
 

RossoX

Active Member
Jun 3, 2021
765
999
lol I voted "I like netorase" when I thought I was voting for netori (which you should have included in the poll by the way)

In other words, I only enjoy NTR content when you're the one (as the protag) cuckolding someone else. I really dig the idea of seducing (or even corrupting if you will) someone's wife or girlfriend... to the point that said girl would reach such a level of lust that she would willingly cheat on her loved one with the protag so we can self-insert as well.

So yeah if it's netori then I'm down, otherwise ntr from the cuck POV is a hard pass for me.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Trapitalism101
Dec 24, 2020
450
1,034
lol I voted "I like netorase" when I thought I was voting for netori (which you should have included in the poll by the way)

In other words, I only enjoy NTR content when you're the one (as the protag) cuckolding someone else. I really dig the idea of seducing (or even corrupting if you will) someone's wife or girlfriend... to the point that said girl would reach such a level of lust that she would willingly cheat on her loved one with the protag so we can self-insert as well.

So yeah if it's netori then I'm down, otherwise ntr from the cuck POV is a hard pass for me.
How about stealing a guy's woman AND feminizing the man?
 
  • Like
Reactions: zack200

SanEro_III

New Member
May 10, 2018
8
1
You know, I'll read an NTR plot, but I'm usually just rooting for the girl if she's like enjoying herself. Usually a majority of quick NTR plots will setup the most barebones relationship to ruin without depth, so I could care less. I tend to find the corruption aspect more fascinating.
 

karlsberg

Newbie
Aug 16, 2019
70
167
I don't have a lot of time for critics who have not read it, or looked at the extensive footnoting. :)
That's fine. The comment was meant not for you, but to advise other people to take it with a grain of salt and if they're interested about the topic, look at what anthropologists say and not a couple of psychologists working outside their field.