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ReignMocap

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Hello, I understand, that you need a lot of money for setting up the environment to working condition.
Can you please answer?
1) Your goal is 32k for the START, OK. But MONTHLY??? Do you think that pirates can't count?
2) How do you think, you will successfully track small areas? In VAM are most important genitals. How do you think, you can track a penis??? You plan some kind of Rokoko suit with special penis or vagina clothing (and tracking)? Do you really understand the physics? These are not just joints, that connects "bones". I saw a few your scenes, when installed with full recommended dependencies, genital intercourse was NOT functional. Sorry, but just waste of effort.
In VAM you have genitalia "in your hands" and you are not successfull (penis not entering vagina). Why do you think, you will be more successful in real motion ttracking?
OK fair post. The patron problem first. I was not able to set up right with a final goal. I will get around to doing that today. The idea is to set up a final goal that people can see. If I can't figure it out myself I will contact patreon for help. The 32k is all I need and it is not montly.
And I disagree. Genitals are not the most important thing. Resolution and realism of movement is the most important thing in VAM mocap. I don't know what scenes you have seen. Maybe the older stuff. The new stuff has the penis in the vagina and working. Sure it's a bad solution but it works. Sadly these are the tools we are working with. You might wanna check the new stuff. What we can't do is change of position as the penis is linked to the hip of the female in order to maintain insertion.
It's not the penis in the vagina that sells the mocap. It's the way the models move and interact.
Not all VAm mocap scenes are sex scenes. Believe it or not my community is more interested in the way the model moves than the actual sex scene. I also believe that the penis insertion problem can be solved with the right plugin.

Ok let me explain a scenario. There is this plugin within VAM. Cynthia I think it's called. It's a plugin that is able to deploy BVH files in an order or even randomly. The trouble is we do not have the motion data to feed it. If we would have the motion data and it was designed with VAM in mind, with few modifications we could deploy animations using parameters. We could have a character that moves around the room and does things. We can go as far as taking the user into account or letting the user decide what the character does. A fully interactive and motion captured scene.
As I have stated we do not have the motion data for it. We need to cover every aspect of movement within a room. That's maybe months of work but it can be done. None of it is possible without a strong tracking system.
I hope this makes it clear as you have raised valid points.
 

ReignMocap

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Yep you’re a narcist :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

but the joke aside, ppl you are all getting way to upset relax and just enjoy what ever someone makes. And creators please keep everything free without any rules or just ask money for it than you are free to do what ever you want…..because than it’s a choice if you accept the rules of credit stuff.
Haha yes I am and proud of it. But yeah looking at a VR butt bouncing all day will make a man put his hands down his pants once in a while
 
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keycode

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speaking of relax o_O:ROFLMAO:... I see in this forum and (original) in the hub some good scenes arriving from far far far east (China? Korea? japs???)and we have on this forum too another excellent artisan all using timeline and related transition actions with great result. Not a long mocap. just looping variations... but with everything working 90% or to be clear, without serious collision issues. You should pay more attention to those guys work if you dream to .... etc. ....all apart from that "Winner" comic talk. My best wishes. ;-)

edit: plus... there is no real fun for standard vam player interactivity with any mocap, unless we convert the full animation to acid timeline. And that is a limit IMHO
 
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ReignMocap

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speaking of relax o_O:ROFLMAO:... I see in this forum and (original) in the hub some good scenes arriving from far far far east (China? Korea? japs???)and we have on this forum too another excellent artisan all using timeline and related transition actions with great result. Not a long mocap. just looping variations... but with everything working 90% or to be clear, without serious collision issues. You should pay more attention to those guys work if you dream to .... etc. ....all apart from that "Winner" comic talk. My best wishes. ;-)
Of course the winner talk is just bull and messing around. Can you please link the work? I might learn something from it. Are you talking about NHL ?
 
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absolutely nothing related to any s..t like this or other feline pseudo creative-female actions with boring long rituals hip-legs-arms ..the one is for sure androinz and the other dude likes to change his nickname so often (not only just in the hub... look at "xinxiu") that it's not even worth to mention (but playing his last creations, after a failure debut, is now a lot nice!). Anyway for me the best things I was seeing in Vam are some two old scenes from Luminex666 (free dl in the hub). Incredibly funny even with those actors comic sounds. (time for your apéritif n'est-ce pas?) Have a good day mate. :)
 
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VAM-fan

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OK fair post.
Many thanks for your answers.
If you better specify your requirements, people may understand your plans better. It is good to know, you understand this.
I understand, that you wish to make your scenes easier. So people wil pay your plans and you will get much bigger income with you main Patreon account. Do you think this is a fair idea?
See Alter3go animations. They are clean and almost perfect without help of any tracking environment. Believe me, I know his work VERY good.
What about these people, who make their work "by hands" and spend hunderds of hours by animationn?
Your project, if successfull, will be much more productivwe with minimal amount of effort and would start unfair competitive environment.
I think, you should finance your plans by fund with honest earnings rather than charity...
Did you think about this?
 
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Ok I know this question has been ask before I am sure. But for the last 3 hours I've been trying, but the penis wont go or stay in. Slips out pops out. Maybe someone knows a better why then what im doing....tried adjusting the colliders extra.... Im attempting a size bit to big but thats the point .... So just asking if anyone might have some suggestions. Or plugin that would help this. Thanks
Look for a plugin called SexHelper. Keeps everything aligned for you automatically.
 

ItsMrFoxToYou

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I think the "mocap isn't all about sex" is part of the thing people miss. There are many plugins to make actual sex scenes work better. The best scenes in my mind are the ones with some kind of actual story. Not just a couple minutes at most of repeating banging.
Natural motions are important. If you have a scene where a character can walk into a room, talk to you, pick up and move objects, sit on a sofa etc you feel far more connected to events.
That's the point that things like VR become really awesome because you are not "watching porn" anymore, you are living an experience.
I am very excited for all the work being done by content creators, not just the mocap stuff but the scripting work. I some of the best plugins are things like E-Motion, Balance etc that bring "life" to the static models.
Just think about the possibilities if some of those plugins get to become reactive to user input.
There are PC apps that do voice recognition. Wouldn't it be amazing to have a character listen to you and react to what you say?
None of this will happen if everybody fights and pisses off creators who leave.
We won't get good scenes or investment if we piss off the people spending their own money on gear to create.
Can we all try to be civil and please not judge?
 
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ReignMocap

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I think the "mocap isn't all about sex" is part of the thing people miss. There are many plugins to make actual sex scenes work better. The best scenes in my mind are the ones with some kind of actual story. Not just a couple minutes at most of repeating banging.
Natural motions are important. If you have a scene where a character can walk into a room, talk to you, pick up and move objects, sit on a sofa etc you feel far more connected to events.
That's the point that things like VR become really awesome because you are not "watching porn" anymore, you are living an experience.
I am very excited for all the work being done by content creators, not just the mocap stuff but the scripting work. I some of the best plugins are things like E-Motion, Balance etc that bring "life" to the static models.
Just think about the possibilities if some of those plugins get to become reactive to user input.
There are PC apps that do voice recognition. Wouldn't it be amazing to have a character listen to you and react to what you say?
None of this will happen if everybody fights and pisses off creators who leave.
We won't get good scenes or investment if we piss off the people spending their own money on gear to create.
Can we all try to be civil and please not judge?
And I try to create part of that experience. At first these were lifeless dolls. Then came Timbo and myself followed by others. We brought the models to life. People like the awsome ''AcidBubbles'' built plugins like ''Glance'' and upped the realism. We can never stop innovating. No matter the resistance we encounter. It is a matter of time until we have a semi or fully interactive model that will move about the room. That is what I am aiming for. That's the whole reason of this project. Thank you for understanding
 

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At the risk of sounding like a penis...
OK understand, your answer explains all my possible future questions. It is a "gimme" all I need ,and I will f*ck you then. Fair and expensive plans should not discourage others. The authors of good ideas usually carries the associated risks. I see this isn't your cup of tea. You are trying to risk nothing and have it all. Sorry, I will not be helpful.
 

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I think the "mocap isn't all about sex" is part of the thing people miss.
... The best scenes in my mind are the ones with some kind of actual story.

... you are living an experience.
Yeah the best scenes are a complete package. Not just a mocap or manually created dance in a black, empty, silent scene. Sapuzex used to do this very well. Space Force is another example of a whole story, environments, dialog, etc that made an actual experience even if it didn't have many animations, it was much more compelling than any of the mocaps scenes we see now. Most scenes now feel more like tiktoks than an episode of a good TV show. So many mocaps are translated, maybe cleaned up a tiny bit and some royalty free tune just slapped in it so it isn't dead silent if we're lucky, and an autobehavior selected so its only partially a robot mannequin.

We're lucky to get the same canned moaning MP3 we've heard 100 times before in a scene, or one piece of furniture. It's almost all garbage, nothing has any real character to it.
 

ReignMocap

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Yeah the best scenes are a complete package. Not just a mocap or manually created dance in a black, empty, silent scene. Sapuzex used to do this very well. Space Force is another example of a whole story, environments, dialog, etc that made an actual experience even if it didn't have many animations, it was much more compelling than any of the mocaps scenes we see now. Most scenes now feel more like tiktoks than an episode of a good TV show. So many mocaps are translated, maybe cleaned up a tiny bit and some royalty free tune just slapped in it so it isn't dead silent if we're lucky, and an autobehavior selected so its only partially a robot mannequin.

We're lucky to get the same canned moaning MP3 we've heard 100 times before in a scene, or one piece of furniture. It's almost all garbage, nothing has any real character to it.
I agree. Most of it is garbage so is some of my stuff. You can't really blame us. We are only as good as the tools allow us to be. If you would do any actual mocap work using the vive system you will understand the pain and the often yeeting of things across the room. My patreons actually commend me for not bloating up the scenes. I create mocaps so people can build their own scenes. That is the fun part of VAM. The actual building part. I regularly receive comments about that.
And I agree about the moaning mp3. Sadly there is not much content that we can use. Also we can't use any copyright music. I am creating content for power users , people that know what the hell they are doing in VAM and it works great for me. Adding crapp in the scene will burn down a lot of computers. To be able to enjoy the mocap you need framerates. Once you add stuff framerates go down and people are not happy.
I agree with the tiktok part sadly it's the best we can do right now. We need a better system in order to build those stores you talk about. ''But noooo Reign you greaddy peace of sh.t You want it all for youself'' No I don't. I just want to make cool stuff.
 

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please, somebody :cry: "KM 179 Erotic Dance" from KittyMokap.
I think this has already been posted, by someone. But i cannot find the link..
So here..




 
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ReignMocap

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OK understand, your answer explains all my possible future questions. It is a "gimme" all I need ,and I will f*ck you then. Fair and expensive plans should not discourage others. The authors of good ideas usually carries the associated risks. I see this isn't your cup of tea. You are trying to risk nothing and have it all. Sorry, I will not be helpful.
Yeah that's how pre-ordering and crowd funding works. Gimme now and I'll give you later when I do it. I don't see what's wrong with that? You want me to produce it out of thin air? Also when I built my patreon I took the risk myself. It paid off.
And I don't understand how people that steal and share other peoples work suddenly have such a moral high ground. The level of hypocracy is beyond what I though possible
 
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I think you should be great full that some creators do what they do, and if they ask money for there thing you have a choice whether you want it or choose not too buy.

That said, I don’t get the free but you have to use my name mentality, it’s either free or not and as long as you say thanks too all creators for there free stuff i don’t see the problem you said thanks. And if you think of it every one who want the item will look for the creators name and it’s just good and free exposure…….that would be a win for the creator. And you keep it on the Hub where more and more ppl will see and use the items, now it all comes from downloads and illegal sites……witch is a loss for those creators.

(fun fact: in my case the creator made only one item and complaint that I din’t credit him, while 34 looks got deleted ….just too boost his ego).
 
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...Also when I built my patreon I took the risk myself...
Yes, of course, there were MANY of them... I know them very well: Their names are: Zip, None, Nada or Zero.
Asking pirates and offending them - good idea!
Now I see, all of us are just pirates, bcoz we are active here on F95. Good sense of reality. So you are pirate also!
I do not wish to unhide my identity, but it should explain a lot...
So why don't you go to the bank and take out a loan? Why are you begging pirates? It's clear - you don't trust yourself. Will the bank send you to hell? Or will it be expensive? Sorry, but the term "charity" specifies you perfectly.
Have a nice day and do not spend more time by replying.
 

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Ok I know this question has been ask before I am sure. But for the last 3 hours I've been trying, but the penis wont go or stay in. Slips out pops out. Maybe someone knows a better why then what im doing....tried adjusting the colliders extra.... Im attempting a size bit to big but thats the point .... So just asking if anyone might have some suggestions. Or plugin that would help this. Thanks
if the dick is too big then the collider basically jumps out of the vag. Either u get a vagina morph that makes her take longer dicks or make the dick a bit smaller.
 
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I am looking for look Daisy by Watto:



about Kemono: " The frontend server is overloaded..." or 504 error ... ?
 
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