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Dear Demiare ,
First of all, thank you for the rating but I have to mention something about your opinion.
First thing is the reference made between this game and Crusader Kings 2. You don't have vassals because you and your family( MC and the royal family of Colonia) are vassals to the Empire. It's actually mentioned in that 'huge amount of boring dialogues'. At this point you can't have control over the noble class (I think those you were referring to) because you are a prince, for now, and not the king. This is also a thing present in Crusader Kings 2.
The other thing is this 'vision' that few have when they say that this game will not be finished. The same thing was said by someone the last year and there will surely be a person that will say the same thing, before I will press the submit to my last version of the game (with endings). This lack of trust is not only sad but somehow I see how people are falling and becoming the victims of the past, without having the will to believe into something.
This is an adult game and not a porn game What is the difference?! Well the game is driven by a plot and not by adult porn objectives. The adult part will increase as the story will unfold and it will be richer and more beautiful.
Regarding the updates and the progress, there are games on this forum that after four years of development and more than enough patrons, you can unlock a sneak peek at a boob, without any major plot.
Since I started the game, I have invested in the project and I expanded the team, planning a major overhaul of the free-roaming system.
In the end, as you recomanded to other players to stay away from this game because it's not going to be finished, I would like to recomend you something also. You should start believing more, because if you are going to do otherwise, in the end, you are going stop believing in yourself.

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You don't have vassals because you and your family( MC and the royal family of Colonia) are vassals to the Empire. It's actually mentioned in that 'huge amount of boring dialogues'.
First - I'm reading almost everything when playing. In you game I'd passed only dialogue in oblivion since beginning of mock trial because it was obvious filler. I don't mentioned empire as it was a review and I don't wanted to write a full-sized article.
Second - in that case main hero father is top manager, CEO, minister, etc - anybody but king. Feudal system is based on liege-vassal relationships and one of CORE rules that vassal able to have only a single liege. So even if emperor provided you a title of king - by receiving it you became liege for a few dukes, counts, etc until you either die or emperor will revoke a title. In same time emperor will keep zero power over your vassals (well at least on paper & in law). THIS is how "viceroyalities" working in CK2 too.
And it's exactly what I tried to say - MC in you game is not prince. At best he is a high chief son. It was alright until wedding scene as it's written horribly out of setting. Royal wedding in medieval times is even more great event then Olympic games nowadays. All vassals of both realms do their best to visit such great (and historic!) party. And they will be with their own guards so it's simply impossible to not take them in account when MC is breaking wedding behind his father back.
Third - you do even more to kill all sense in last episode by it's ending move. How ever princess will know about handjobs? Their castle lacking not even 4G but even telegraph. It should end either by sex (stupid) or by MC stopping her and instead taking a lead & teaching her how to please a male. Yes, you could end with same handjob but provided correctly and fitting whole story. But as I already had mentioned - your story is very short and rush, without any build-up. So no, instead of innocent girl we have another countless "born slut". Sad.

Seriously, think about it. EVERY time MC is on scene he either rushing somewhere or drunk/incapacitated. Everything is happening on run despite lack of any ongoing war or catastrophe. MC had never visited any girl on his own will without plot going behind it. It isn't involving.

This is an adult game and not a porn game
Yean, yean. It's perfectly realistic that every girl in realm is throwing herself on MC, nothing like in porn. (sarcasm if not obvious)
Sorry, but real adult VN have a lot of storybuilding before anything will happen while all females in your game came to us directly from a porn. Handjob from virgin teenager princess is fitting "non-a-porn" story so well too. And both sisters fallen in love with MC before succubus even appeared is too "serious adult" story. :rolleyes:

I would recomend to start believing more, because if we are going to do otherwise, in the end, we are going stop believing in ourselves.
I tried to believe and waited for ~6 months to see something good (yes, your art is your strongest side). But even if you indeed able to change pace of your work - your writing style will remain the same. So story will receive same rushed and illogical continuation as it have now. And yes, I don't believe you will rewrite exiting story - purely my personal experience, all games here that had received refactory of existing story was abandoned soon after it.

P.S. I hate myself for doing so many mistakes in text. Obviously english isn't a native for me & learned it mostly to read texts not write. Sorry for my language level =/
 
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First - I'm reading almost everything when playing. In you game I'd passed only dialogue in oblivion since beginning of mock trial because it was obvious filler. I don't mentioned empire as it was a review and I don't wanted to write a full-sized article.
Second - in that case main hero father is top manager, CEO, minister, etc - anybody but king. Feudal system is based on liege-vassal relationships and one of CORE rules that vassal able to have only a single liege. So even if emperor provided you a title of king - by receiving it you became liege for a few dukes, counts, etc until you either die or emperor will revoke a title. In same time emperor will keep zero power over your vassals (well at least on paper & in law). THIS is how "viceroyalities" working in CK2 too.
And it's exactly what I tried to say - MC in you game is not prince. At best he is a high chief son. It was alright until wedding scene as it's written horribly out of setting. Royal wedding in medieval times is even more great event then Olympic games nowadays. All vassals of both realms do their best to visit such great (and historic!) party. And they will be with their own guards so it's simply impossible to not take them in account when MC is breaking wedding behind his father back.
Third - you do even more to kill all sense in last episode by it's ending move. How ever princess will know about handjobs? Their castle lacking not even 4G but even telegraph. It should end either by sex (stupid) or by MC stopping her and instead taking a lead & teaching her how to please a male. Yes, you could end with same handjob but provided correctly and fitting whole story. But as I already had mentioned - your story is very short and rush, without any build-up. So no, instead of innocent girl we have another countless "born slut". Sad.

Seriously, think about it. EVERY time MC is on scene he either rushing somewhere or drunk/incapacitated. Everything is happening on run despite lack of any ongoing war or catastrophe. MC had never visited any girl on his own will without plot going behind it. It isn't involving.


Yean, yean. It's perfectly realistic that every girl in realm is throwing herself on MC, nothing like in porn. (sarcasm if not obvious)
Sorry, but real adult VN have a lot of storybuilding before anything will happen while all females in your game came to us directly from a porn. Handjob from virgin teenager princess is fitting "non-a-porn" story so well too. And both sisters fallen in love with MC before succubus even appeared is too "serious adult" story. :rolleyes:


I tried to believe and waited for ~6 months to see something good (yes, your art is your strongest side). But even if you indeed able to change pace of your work - your writing style will remain the same. So story will receive same rushed and illogical continuation as it have now. And yes, I don't believe you will rewrite exiting story - purely my personal experience, all games here that had received refactory of existing story was abandoned soon after it.

P.S. I hate myself for doing so many mistakes in text. Obviously english isn't a native for me & learned it mostly to read texts not write. Sorry for my language level =/
But Vis happens in the different universe, right? For example, Elder Scrolls had kings, like ones in Solitude while being a part of an empire and basically ruling only one major city. So I doubt this is kind of an issue at all.
 
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But Vis happens in the different universe, right? For example, Elder Scrolls had kings, like ones in Solitude while being a part of an empire and basically ruling only one major city. So I doubt this is kind of an issue at all.
Kings under emperor is a fine. King controlling only a single city is a fine too. Both of it happened in real history too.
King not having any vassals isn't fine. And even past medieval time, in age of absolute monarchy king will still have a vassals (plus large army, set of laws & city guards so events around wedding will still be utterly fantastic).

I will try with simpler example. :) If you're calling leader in your game "a president" but there never happened any kind of voting - it's looking stupid.
 

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Kings under emperor is a fine. King controlling only a single city is a fine too. Both of it happened in real history too.
King not having any vassals isn't fine. And even past medieval time, in age of absolute monarchy king will still have a vassals (plus large army, set of laws & city guards so events around wedding will still be utterly fantastic).

I will try with simpler example. :) If you're calling leader in your game "a president" but there never happened any kind of voting - it's looking stupid.
Sorry you got called out like that.... I guess some people have an imagination and can look past a rigid code of hierarchy, and others can't, You have an opinion and you have voiced it, so feel proud bask in the glory of self importance as We regale in you omniscience.
 

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Kings under emperor is a fine. King controlling only a single city is a fine too. Both of it happened in real history too.
King not having any vassals isn't fine. And even past medieval time, in age of absolute monarchy king will still have a vassals (plus large army, set of laws & city guards so events around wedding will still be utterly fantastic).

I will try with simpler example. :) If you're calling leader in your game "a president" but there never happened any kind of voting - it's looking stupid.
Don't need a simpler example, I am aware of how feudalism works. Yet again I fail to understand how this an issue for a fictional setting, where things could differ.
 
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Don't need a simpler example, I am aware of how feudalism works. Yet again I fail to understand how this an issue for a fictional setting, where things could differ.
It could be an argument if we discussed world so well developed that it ever using own language, like you know - "Lord of the Rings" or Hiroyiki Morioka "Seikai" series, or ... You get the point :)
And in our case we have a world where mercenaries are working for free... Guess you will say this is too because of "fictional setting". :D Sorry, but no. For me it just another plot hole and not unique setting.

Quibble over inaccurate aspects of feudalism but no issue with a princess that sprouts skeletal wings :unsure:
Because they're come from one of many limitations of public 3D render software? "Energy" objects and spell effects are hard to do in 3d software as they're require tons and tons of work with lighting. So developer used existing model :)
And personally I thought they were another hint on Dragon Age origin of Morrigan. If I remember correctly - in that game mother of Morrigan could be attacked and then shape-shift in a dragon for a fight. Dragon model had somewhat similar flesh-like design.
 

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APD13 excellent work. The dynamic between the pc and fps evolving from 'I'll always protect you' to 'me and you against the world babe' is definitely the best aspect of this story. It fits the grand intrigue theme perfectly, especially for an erotic focus. Plus the supernatural chosen one stuff with morrigan has shades of ancient pagan genesis narratives, which is also cool. I'm generally averse to 'realistic' incest but in a fantasy/mythic setting like this it works for me. The writing does its job, mostly syntax errors. Only one question for now, will there be any army management elements if you take war/morrigan path?

Demiare why are you looking for full-fledged professionally written novels in this of all places. And as we all know CK2 is the definitive source for understanding feudal political economy! Titles like king, prince and emperor mean a lot of different things depending on context/timeframe. There are countries in Europe today that are ruled by princes. The Principality of Wales for example. The presidents of France are crowned co-princes of Andorra upon taking office. If you honestly want hours of naturalistic character development with explicit sexual content inbetween go read Zola or something.
because the quality of this game and others is insane and hes insane not to find it good
 

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It could be an argument if we discussed world so well developed that it ever using own language, like you know - "Lord of the Rings" or Hiroyiki Morioka "Seikai" series, or ... You get the point :)
And in our case we have a world where mercenaries are working for free... Guess you will say this is too because of "fictional setting". :D Sorry, but no. For me it just another plot hole and not unique setting.


Because they're come from one of many limitations of public 3D render software? "Energy" objects and spell effects are hard to do in 3d software as they're require tons and tons of work with lighting. So developer used existing model :)
And personally I thought they were another hint on Dragon Age origin of Morrigan. If I remember correctly - in that game mother of Morrigan could be attacked and then shape-shift in a dragon for a fight. Dragon model had somewhat similar flesh-like design.
While i get your point, i still did not get why it is so relevant, that you make it one if your main points of critique. This is still not Earth and not your Holy Roman Empire or Venice republic or ... you get the point. And about mercenaries, well they still get payed and if they are loyal to the leader with motives beyond money, why the heck not.
 
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what is that dagger here in pic to start main champain i cant see it in game?
Hey there,
The dagger is on the MC's desk and it is a way for people that saved the game from the last update in the free-roaming to access new content when released. If the player has saved the game in the story mode and not in the free-roam in the previous update, after instaling a new update and loading that save, the game will automatically jump to the new update and you don't require to click on the dagger.
As a 'heads up' for things to come, the free-roam part will be moved after the end of the prologue and there will be a tutorial that will present its features.
 
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Great story man, I've been looking for updates for quite a while, this is one of the games I play that I just am hoping to continue the story. I love your writing, I wish I was better at reviewing or commenting on these works but I just wanted to say, man don't listen to the negative opinions you get, this is your piece of art, your way, and well I like it your way, your doing great...fantastic in my opinion.(y)
 
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