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By the strictest definition any cheating is cuckoldry. But Cuckoldry as a fetish is not Netorare. Since there is already a cheating AKA Netorare path I don't get why you have to have Netorare in the Netorase path. As a stand in for the Male MC I find it hard to relate if I know the female MC is a liar and a cheat. Especially since I am not playing as her and don't get to make any decisions for her character.
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I get frustrated because every Cuckoldry (Netorase) game I play seems to follow the same pitfalls. Instead of a loving relationship where both partners respect each other but the husband is insecure about his size and or performance and wants to see his partner sleep with other men it's a relationship where the wife doesn't respect the husband and is a complete piece of shit.
Am I the only Cuckold that wants a partner that won't lie to me and cheat on me behind my back but will still let me watch her fuck guys with bigger dicks? Why does the voyeuristic side of cuckoldry have to be relegated to the stag/vixen(sharing) routes in these games? Can't a guy just get off on watching his wife fuck without participating? Why is humiliation part mandatory? Why does the humiliation part always feel non-consensual instead of being agreed upon before hand? Why does the husband HAVE to be a premature ejaculator?
I guess the problem is that even though I see myself as a cuckold I still can't see myself represented in any of these games.
Am I the only Cuckold that wants a partner that won't lie to me and cheat on me behind my back but will still let me watch her fuck guys with bigger dicks? Why does the voyeuristic side of cuckoldry have to be relegated to the stag/vixen(sharing) routes in these games? Can't a guy just get off on watching his wife fuck without participating? Why is humiliation part mandatory? Why does the humiliation part always feel non-consensual instead of being agreed upon before hand? Why does the husband HAVE to be a premature ejaculator?
I guess the problem is that even though I see myself as a cuckold I still can't see myself represented in any of these games.
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Because devs know nothing about real life cuckold relationships.
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I see it the same way, it's cheating in my opinion.
The couple went out and the wife meets a guy in secret inside a toilet.
Sure the scene is very hot, but it's cheating and not cuckolding.
Later she is with another guy on the dance floor and wants to leave the place to have sex with this guy.
Even if the husband communicates his objection with his wife, she gets mad and makes a scene.
In the loving path, she surprises her husband with her decision.
She says that she leaves the club with this complete stranger and the husband has to deal with it.
The husband was uncertain with this forced situation.
The wife should have stayed by her husband to support him and not leaving the club with a stranger instead.
I'm asking myself, does the couple have any simple rules to follow and what about the guy she just met.
It's a risk to leave the club with a complete stranger, the wife should have invited her husband as protection, just in case.
Besides the agreement was to have her flirt with some guys and to feel desired again.
Not to have her go through with it at the first chance since the couple decided to open up the marriage.
I thought the couple would go slow first and progress through this new lifestyle with small steps forward.
And the most important, I thought they would do it together as couple and not separated.
To be honest here, but the wife is not loving her husband and behaves very selfish even in the loving cuckold route.
The corruption of the wife is way too fast and unnecessary in my opinion.
The weird thing is, that the husband is not against to open up the relationship for her.
Besides the unrealistic portrayal of this lifestyle, I still like the game very much.
I guess my hope for this game was too high, but I'm curious how the developer will turn the story on the right track in the next update.
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All this crying about the wife, already and the 'journey' has only just started...You can see where this is going.
God, I hope this isn't going to end-up being like the TAC thread.
Where there is page after page of whining, cos the wife is doing things on her own and all the self-inserts get all butt-hurt about it.
God, I hope this isn't going to end-up being like the TAC thread.
Where there is page after page of whining, cos the wife is doing things on her own and all the self-inserts get all butt-hurt about it.
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Well if you’re on the cheating route I hope she is doing that behind his back (or my favorite when they almost get caught like in another room or outside) and as much as she wants to. Only share and Cuck path should be done in front of the mc
I just don't get endless bickering and whining about so many things involving these games. Just remember these are porn games and as such, should you choose to come here you should fully well know what to expect and what you will likely encounter. That being said, the Dev's of these games create them according to THEIR vision and liking. I'm sure suggestions are always welcome but don't ever assume a Dev is going to change his creation to satisfy your whims and wishes. I don't generally post rants but the complaining is getting old and annoying. This character shouldn't do this that character should be doing that, oh my there's two male characters in a scene, the sky is falling and of course complete hair-on-fire NTR. My best suggestion to the endless complainers is if all here is so troubling for you why not just go and create your own game according to your vision,wants and desires.
i dont understand why my version ends right when she leaves the club with Dom. In the preview pics there seems to be a lot of scenes im missing. Any hints?
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There is a difference between "whining" and actual constructive criticism. The difference between a good book and a bad book is how well the characters are written. A good writer creates characters that realistic and grounded and then create the fantasy around those characters. If you want to write an cuckold game that features the cuckold fetish and isn't just about cheating then you need to write the male and female protagonist a certain way if you want the characters in the story to be compelling and believable.
The way the story is currently written in the cuckold route the relationship is headed to disaster if it was a real life relationship. These types of relationships require a high degree of trust and stability and the female protagonist lying to and betraying the male protagonist trust is not a foundation in which a healthy cuckold relationship could thrive/survive.
At the end of the day the writer of the story can do whatever the fuck they want. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with trying to hold people to a higher standard in the hope that they will improve the project they are working on or improve the next project.
If I made you a hamburger and you ate it and didn't tell me what you liked and didn't like about it then I couldn't make you a better hamburger next time. Some people are going to like it with tomato and some people won't and that is fine. I don't like my porn games with badly written characters and you apparently do and it's ok but you don't need to tell me I am wrong.
Your suggestion about "create your own game" which I have seen over and over again is also a failure to understand some basic concepts. I have writing skills, I don't have programming or 3D rendering skills. I could write an erotic story that would be more realistic and enjoyable for people who are interested in this fetish than 90% of the game makers on this site but I wouldn't even know where to begin when it comes to writing code in Ren'py or RPGMaker.
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Well I thought the developer with messing with us when he had wife leave with Dom, but I read that the for the first time in a "cuckold" relationship that is how it should go down. With the husband not there, that way there's no jealous rage or chickening out then agreeing then getting scared again.
The only problem that I saw was that the couple were to both be in agreement that this is something they both wanted. I thought they were just testing the water when they went to the club. Also there's not supposed to be pushing husband out , as to he doesn't know what's goin on, definitely no threats toward him. I was ok with the end result of her with Dom, but the way she got there wasn't very indicative of a healthy relationship. But that was already shown from when earlier she got with Mark at his apartment instead of going to store.
She shouldn't have let the whole dance floor scene get that far away from what they wanted. She went there to test the waters of something new in her and her husband's relationship. But instead she lets him get nearly beat up, and silenced him. I think the other dude is posed to be in on the whole thing to, IDK. Now in the update she'll play it off and the husband will over look it and the main focus will on what happened after they left. I also read that there's posed to be some shit called "after care" to reassure that she still loves the husband and that this is nothing more then them playing out their fantasies or some shit. But I don't see how she can make a reasonable argument with her actions leading up to her leaving.
Like I said I think the leaving the husband and going with guy back to the apartment happened as it should. But I think everything else was wrong, and if I'm not mistaken she's already setting up future dates with dude. All that stuff is not how it posed to happen, unless they have a relationship like Anne and Tony where she just fucks whoever whenever and sometimes she lets him jerk off when she tells him about some of her adventures.
Like the game thou
The only problem that I saw was that the couple were to both be in agreement that this is something they both wanted. I thought they were just testing the water when they went to the club. Also there's not supposed to be pushing husband out , as to he doesn't know what's goin on, definitely no threats toward him. I was ok with the end result of her with Dom, but the way she got there wasn't very indicative of a healthy relationship. But that was already shown from when earlier she got with Mark at his apartment instead of going to store.
She shouldn't have let the whole dance floor scene get that far away from what they wanted. She went there to test the waters of something new in her and her husband's relationship. But instead she lets him get nearly beat up, and silenced him. I think the other dude is posed to be in on the whole thing to, IDK. Now in the update she'll play it off and the husband will over look it and the main focus will on what happened after they left. I also read that there's posed to be some shit called "after care" to reassure that she still loves the husband and that this is nothing more then them playing out their fantasies or some shit. But I don't see how she can make a reasonable argument with her actions leading up to her leaving.
Like I said I think the leaving the husband and going with guy back to the apartment happened as it should. But I think everything else was wrong, and if I'm not mistaken she's already setting up future dates with dude. All that stuff is not how it posed to happen, unless they have a relationship like Anne and Tony where she just fucks whoever whenever and sometimes she lets him jerk off when she tells him about some of her adventures.
Like the game thou
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Yeah I spoke on this a few pages back, it's really not rocket science, and there's already a cheating path for the pure ntr/corruption fans. The cuck path should be unique from this in that they're doing things together, because he wants her to find a more satisfying lover. The sharing path should be that but not from a framework of being one-upped; the husband is equals with the swinging parters and its either him watching or swapping.
Because there's a pervasive influence in the vn adult games sphere of japanese porn culture which contains these themes much more often than american style porn. The whole guy-watching-his-wife-fuck while being chill about it and enjoying it is a very western thing, whereas elements of one-upping, deception, betrayal, etc much more common in eastern stories. That's my 2cent theory anyway, could be wrong.
Perhaps, but it's ongoing from the start of the game. It's not like we're in an intro chapter and people are getting butthurt about the wife's personality. It's scene after scene of her acting like an ntr game caricature (but on all paths!): concealing things from husband, putting him down around other guys, generally having a loveless relationship with her significant other; no indication of real respect.
Self-inserts is such a silly criticism to me, as if it's more laughable that a player want's to imagine themselves as an MC who gets treated well versus voyeuristically and sadistically enjoying watching a character's misfortunes. You say it's silly that people imagine themselves as an MC, I say it's silly that people enjoy watching a character suffer.
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I think it should be the opposite TBH. In a real life cuckold relationship this should be something the couple are doing together. If neither partner has any experience with sharing/swapping/cuckolding then they should always take the first step together. The woman should only be sleeping with Bulls without the partner there if it's someone that the husband trusts. People forget that cuckolding is about pleasing both partners and salifying both partners needs. If only the wife is being satisfied then that is just cheating and we have all sorts of porn games with that type of NTR already.
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Any teaser of what we can expect in the next update? 2nd part of Dom wrecking Wifeys holes, maybe the office party will be in it. Don’t know if this can happen or not but what if there are 2 choices for office party go with hubby (boring have to be on best behavior in front of him) or go with Heather and have a wild and naughty night with the coworkers 
I agree with you (not having experienced those situations in real life), it certainly makes more sense for it to start together, then eventually perhaps branch out to separate, not the opposite.
I think one of the reasons we see it done in the opposite direction so often in games is bluntly just lazy devs - rendering an M/F scene gives more modularity (can be used in cheating, etc) whereas rendering a guy watching an M/F can only be used for cuck/sharing stuff. Ofc typing that out, it makes me confused because in this game those scenarios should occupy the majority of the content in a 3-path setup, so my theory on less work is actually wrong??
Or the majority of the content is cheating focused :XYou should try reading my post again. Show me where I said it's silly that people imagine themselves as the MC?
Or where I said anything about enjoying a character suffer?
What most definitely is silly, imo, is people who read the tags, genre and summary of the game and still self-insert, knowing full-well that by doing so they're going to make themselves feel bad.
If you're doing the above then quite frankly, you're the silly one.
It seems quite simple to me. Don't imagine yourself as the MC, then you don't have to feel bad about any of this.
Repectfully, I just don't agree with this kind of "is what it is" type of view. Players can have whatever preferences they want, and devs may or may not listen to them, but this perspective kills any type of player feedback or dev-player dialogue.
Also respectfully, I just don't agree with your view that people should come-up on here, haranguing the dev into changing the game's content to one that better suits their personal preferences, kinks, fetishes, etc.
Again, I think it's quite simple.
If I enjoy a game, I carry on playing it. If I don't enjoy it, then....I'll let you figure out the rest.
Bottom line is this. It's the dev's game...just let him get on with it and make the game he wants.