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I would like to try this game but I wonder if I should wait for the next update before I start? If I start it now, would I need to start over when the game updates? And if not, could I miss out on new content if I don't restart?
 

bingolebongo

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I would like to try this game but I wonder if I should wait for the next update before I start? If I start it now, would I need to start over when the game updates? And if not, could I miss out on new content if I don't restart?
You are unlikely to require a restart, and for the most part, you can probably just continue where you left off. That said, there's always a small risk that things change, and we won't know for sure until the update is released. Since the next update is just around the corner I might actually suggest waiting, but in general - nah, you're good. Just enjoy. :)
 

HarryFlash

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Is it just me or did it move just 0.1 percent today?

I think they should just drop the progress tracker as a whole. It's kinda intrinsically flawed.
I think your having trouble between the polish tracker and the content tracker. The content tracker is the most important as this is all the assets that the game requires for the new update.
Once they are created the polish tracker will start to go up substantially as the devs iron out any bugs in the code.
Maybe a better idea for the progress tracker would be to add a space between the polish and content trackers or maybe to flip them so the content tracker is on the bottom.
 

Guestap

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Oct 22, 2017
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Heavy quality but more than a year for what seems like 15% of the game story... I fear this one is gonna become abandoned before accomplishment or that'll see the end in a decade.
Hope I'm wrong, good luck to the devs (y)
 
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Porn_Jesus

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Heavy quality but more than a year for what seems like 15% of the game story... I fear this one is gonna become abandoned before accomplishment or that'll see the end in a decade.
Hope I'm wrong, good luck to the devs (y)
What do you expect from only two people? Unless they abandon their life and only work work work it will take time to release builds.^^
 
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thevoid089

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Heavy quality but more than a year for what seems like 15% of the game story... I fear this one is gonna become abandoned before accomplishment or that'll see the end in a decade.
Hope I'm wrong, good luck to the devs (y)
I will not be that negative and think they will abandon this project considered how passionate and well supported Dev has gained so far, but I did agree is that with only 2 people working on this masterpiece it will take lot of time so maybe they need to contact and hire more talent people to help them cut down the development time
 

Abhai

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You say this as though 6K a month is a lot of money.

Let's check that.

They work on this 8 hours a day, 7 days a week, and there are 2 of them. So, in a month with 30 days, they put in 480 hours (30 x 8 x 2). If they're making $6000 per month, that comes out to 12.5 dollars per hour.

Where I'm from, that's not even minimum wage.

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It all depends, let's check that...where I'm from minimum wage is 1.25$ per hour, and there are many countries where even those 1.25$ per hour would be a small fortune. Claiming "XX dollars per hour is not even a minimum wage" (or so) is a week, though rather popular argument around, as if all the devs and players are from wealthy first world countries, which is as far from the truth as it could be. I would say our devs here are somewhere in middle, not from wealthiest, nor from poorest countries, so for them 12.5$ per hour should be a fairly decent amount.
Yet, to stop this "financial" analysis, these two deserve much more income for a quality of their work/game, and I hope they will get there in due time.

p.s.
haven't checked this thread for a while, hence a bit late reply :BootyTime:
 

moskyx

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It all depends, let's check that...where I'm from minimum wage is 1.25$ per hour, and there are many countries where even those 1.25$ per hour would be a small fortune. Claiming "XX dollars per hour is not even a minimum wage" (or so) is a week, though rather popular argument around, as if all the devs and players are from wealthy first world countries, which is as far from the truth as it could be. I would say our devs here are somewhere in middle, not from wealthiest, nor from poorest countries, so for them 12.5$ per hour should be a fairly decent amount.
Yet, to stop this "financial" analysis, these two deserve much more income for a quality of their work/game, and I hope they will get there in due time.

p.s.
haven't checked this thread for a while, hence a bit late reply :BootyTime:
Their income is enough to make this their job but they are no getting rich at all, I can assure you. After Patreon's cut (and their late month subscriber's refund policy), taxes and mandatory healthcare for self-employed workers in Spain, it's a decent monthly salary (maybe not so good if we calculate it per hour actually worked) but just to make ends meet and little else, and of course we don't know if they have other financial burdens from their past. And even if they were getting rich by working on their joint project, I still couldn't find what's to criticize: isn't it what all of us would dream of? Because people tend to use that income level to throw shit about milking and try to reflect on them their own misery and short-minded attitude, but in this case, and up to this day, there's absolutely no rational reason to claim devs are working less or producing less quality content than when they released v0.1 as a hobby
 
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Abhai

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Their income is enough to make this their job but they are no getting rich at all, I can assure you. After Patreon's cut (and their late month subscriber's refund policy), taxes and mandatory healthcare for self-employed workers in Spain, it's a decent monthly salary (maybe not so good if we calculate it per hour actually worked) but just to make ends meet and little else, and of course we don't know if they have other financial burdens from their past. And even if they were getting rich by working on their joint project, I still couldn't find what's to criticize: isn't it what all of us would dream of? Because people tend to use that income level to throw shit about milking and try to reflect on them their own misery and short-minded attitude, but in this case, and up to this day, there's absolutely no rational reason to claim devs are working less or producing less quality content than when they released v0.1 as a hobby
To not go overly offtopic here - I have replied only because it has got a bit tiresome, on both sides.
For those accusing devs for milking, even for some quite small incomes, and for those stating as a solid rock facts *three-zero-incomes* being "nothing"...
In this particular case, imo they are getting just enough, way above "minimum wage", as it was mentioned/calculated above.
Is their work on this game worth more money - certainly it is.
Will they get there - certainly do hope so.
Is the latest update (overly) delayed - certainly it is...
 

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Hi everybody.
Chestnut and I have been extremely busy trying to finish and polish everything, and although we have a bit more work left, we're very happy with the outcome so far, and I sincerely hope that you will like the update too once it's out.
We don't have a release date, so take into account that this might change, but we're working very hard to have everything ready by the end of this month. However, if we see that we need more time to polish and debug things (a very likely scenario), we will release 0.5 in September rather than publish a faulty or poorly tested one in August.
I know I have said it before, but I still want to thank every one of you who have been patiently waiting for the next release, and I am sorry that it has taken us this long. I don't think we could have done anything differently (except not taking Sundays off in the first month, perhaps), but still, I wish I could show you the result of your continuous support earlier.
If we see that, for whatever reason, we cannot complete the debug/testing/polish in August, we are going to offer refunds for the pledges of the month of September for any of the members who have been supporting us at least since August and are interested in it. You'll only have to send us a message on Patreon or Discord in the first days of September, and I'll issue the refund after the 5th. If you're worried you'll forget about it, I will mention this again in the following report (when we will know with more certainty if we can finish 0.5 in August or not).
Now to the report:
Chestnut worked entirely on cutscenes and backgrounds (you can see one of the images ). She finished several artworks and did variations for others.
I edited the text and the posing and also tested and debugged the content already done. I also added new sound effects and made other audio adjustments, as well as coding in all of the new artworks.
Next week's plan:
I have added new hands to improve a few of the scenes, and Chestnut will need to draw them. Other than that, she will work exclusively on cutscenes. Once she's done, she has a list of artworks that will need to be edited and polished (or have variations and expressions drawn for them).
I ran into a bug last week, the solution to which was updating Ren'py to the latest version (I hadn't done that since May of 2020). That worries me a little because of compatibility issues, and I want to spend enough time adequately testing everything from the beginning to make sure new players don't run into bugs. Other than that, I will add artworks when they are ready and edit and test the content. Lastly, I want to add more sound effects and improve some earlier ones (though they may have to wait for later).
That's all we have.
Have a wonderful and relaxing weekend.
Cheers

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FlamesOfVengeance

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Really hope we don't run into compatibility issues with the next update judging by the most recent weekly report. I imagine using a new version of Ren'Py might be able to mess things up. Fingers crossed we won't have to start all over with the next update.
 
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