My biased opinion most likely stems from the fact that I know a lot of people dislike incest, particularly how common it is, and it's one of those fetishes I'm tired of being shamed.
This game doesn't seem to have anything todo with incest at all by the way. Even if it was allowed on patreon. His mother didn't even work in the whorehouse. So she is just out of the picture at all. And probably half of the incest freaks are like me. We don't mind if incest or not. But we don't like incest story, where sister and mom are exchanced by roomy and landlady. That's just competely (chest)nuts..
I know but the other guy was complaining about people kinkshaming him and calling incest a problem which is how the conversation got derailed.
Well, most of these work arounds (patches, hidden activation, etc.) aren't safe on paper, either. And the safe ones, like the player determining relationships, quite often impact the whole writing negatively, so they should be avoided in my opinion.
It's even worse when it COMPLETELY obvious that roomie and landlady is just a change from sister and mother. Like talking about growing up or how they walk around in their underwear or mention their father. I mean the only real workaround is step sister and step mother. So I don't know where roomie and landlady came into play. And honestly if you use step mom and step sister you only have to mention that once and the rest of the time you should be able to get away with mother and sister. There's plenty of people with step siblings who refer each as full blooded siblings and view each other as such. Hell even a simple mention that they were adopted works as well.
Step relationships are against Patreon rules too (as well as using adoption as a workaround), that's why landladies, tennants and roomates come into play so often. The fact that some games can get away with using blood or step relationships only means that nobody in Patreon has checked them yet, most likely because no one has reported them. But they are infringing Patreon's rules and risking to be deplatformed.
don't forget the protagonist is an orphan left at the doorstep of a church, all while Vi was scheming to take the throne. an orphan that has the nevernuff's gift. Royal bastards are a commn thrope... the trick is to hint at it nicely and let people that want incest in WaL see it.
WTF can we STOP using Patreon please? Until Patreon gets a damn dictionary and looks up the word incest. I legit don't know how someone can support a platform that creates its own definitions and creates rules around definitions that they themselves created. Holy hell how long until holding hands is defined as sexual assault. Said it before and I'll say it again I'm NEVER supporting Patreon.
Well, that's kinda what I meant by saying it's futile. Yes, you could add/imply it, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't satisfy 95% of those, who'd play it for the incest. I mean, it's usually about the taboo, about the secrecy, etc. and if the story doesn't at least partly focus on that, it's just another attribute for some character.
To be fair, Patreon didn't care until their payment processors made them care. It's indeed mainly about for example paypal and stripe, who don't want to support platforms, who allow that kind of content. Hence for example, why subscribestar still doesn't offer paypal payments.
Don't know why more people just don't use subscribestar I donate to a few games through there and it's not that bad. If anyone says it's unsafe the same could be said about Patreon and their use of PayPal since PayPal is actually pretty unsafe.
I don't think it's really about safety, but about convenience. There are certainly quite a few people on this planet, who don't own a credit card in the first place and who can't use subscribestar easily. Paypal makes paying for the average user a lot easier and you can be sure that quite a few subscriptions (especially for NSFW games) happen on a whim, rather than after long consideration. With paypal the next payment is like 3 clicks away, that's why it's such an asset...
Not using a credit card doesn't mean Paypal will allow you to use it on Substar
And the problem was very easy. Your parents died, car crash (the usual), friend of your parents takes you in their house. Problem solved. No stupid landlady/landlord
Now I make myself guilty like most others, not reading the rest of the conversation....
Not solved at all. Those people would be considered as your foster parents -> incest. It's exactly the reason why including a belated birthday orgy in WaL would be a risky move, those whores are MC's 'mothers'.
Years back I had a landlady, and the only thing, I remember of her, is wanting money, and complaining when old far overdate furniture of her broke in my room. I was so happy to move out and get my own place. And now all those shit games come up with landlord and landlady. It always makes me shiver...
The worst example was when your 'landlord' died, and your 'landlady' moved into her sister's place, and she did not become the new landlady...
