If that's real, then yeah, what a spit in the face to people that have been supporting the game, especially people that have been paying for it for almost two years and have received nothing in return.
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nothing? you call those constant progress reports - nothing?! how dare you...
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LOL i even forgot the update was about Gomira. Imagine its been two years in development and we get 3 scenes with orc pussy and they call it a day- then another 4 years in development. Its almost laughable how slow these devs are. Like snails with fucking asthma. Are they using an iMac from 2003? That would explain the 6 months wait for bug fixes in a goddamn renpy game. Holy shit dude.
I guess slow and steady wins the race when it comes to scamming your supporters!
Who needs an API and an automated OCR system when you can just do it manually for each month?
Slower than before and a bit more work.
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I imagine y'all discussed this already, but it's kinda scary how the goal posts continue to move on these progress indicators:
Now I can understand when you're months away from the end goal that things can creep a bit, but if your total planning is complete, it's a little weird that every single report has continual creep on whatever aspect you're working on.
Plus, they've been polishing it for two months, what's up with that?
Now I can understand when you're months away from the end goal that things can creep a bit, but if your total planning is complete, it's a little weird that every single report has continual creep on whatever aspect you're working on.
Plus, they've been polishing it for two months, what's up with that?
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here the comments are great.On itch.oi, there is cotton candy in the comms.Everyone is happy
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Context matters. He was replying to a comment from a guy who regularly complains about having to wait for years to get Princess Serena's update. But you won't see context if the ones scrapping that message don't want you to see it hisnik2
- Jun 17, 2019
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It's easy and yeah, it has been discussed before. You plan, you do, you test and replay what you did, you see things don't work and have to redo them, so you add another task to show things didn't go as planned and you'll need to work some more, creating different artwork, dialogues or whatever. At some point, all the planned content is finally done and then, when you replay what you have (your 'alpha' version), you add editing tasks to show you aren't happy with the results and you need to keep fixing, improving and redoing some things. As simple as that. You call it moving the goalposts, I'd say is being transparent with your supporters and telling them the update will take longer as soon as you know it will.
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Still, that's not how you're supposed to respond to your patron. Better just let them be.
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What is it gonna take to make people FINALLY admit this is a scam and they just aren't working on it or if they are it's no more than an hour a week or so. People just gobble down one excuse after the next and even go out of their way to attack anyone that points out what a scam this is.
This is ICSTOR behavior.
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2+ years with nothing to show for it is a valid thing to complain about. I have a programing job and even on the bigger projects if I went more than 2 weeks without any obvious signs of work being done my boss would be breathing down my neck.
The simple fact is that once these people realized the money wasn't going anywhere and no one could hold them accountable they just started taking it all for granted and being arrogant to everyone around them.
Unless people start pulling their support in mass it will only get worse. This isn't the first time we have seen this and it won't be the last.
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Yeh that's life. Until there is a real update, then we got a few months peace, and then they come back complaining.
Of course even F95 marked it abandoned, because the update takes too long...
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How they dare to tell to people to go play other games, don't they understand it's not the same, it's almost like telling someone to go swim in the iver because the beach is interdict, it's likely a total disrespect for beach simps, are they just nuts...
Oh wait they are, that's explains everything, case closed, moving one to the next drama chapter.
LET'S GOOOOO!!!!!
- Oct 12, 2021
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This 100%. Too many people are so clueless about how game design works. Goals and tasks change all the time for many reasons, all with the goal of making the best possible product. Fixing one bug may case two others to appears, needing them to be added to the tally of tasks. Editing always go through multiple passes before settling on a result.
Are there scammers out there abusing patreon for profits? Of course there are. I highly doubt this to be one of those cases as the game, in my opinion, is one of the better ones out there and where all versions have been pretty solid once released. Statuses are constantly being updated to show progress (unlike the majority of the games found here).
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I didn't say it was the polite or even the right way to answer. But this guy has never been a patron and is, indeed, a regular complainer.
People asking what's going on get replies explaining what's going on. People complaining about the update taking so long get replies asking them to find something else to do in the meantime, as they are not adding anything meaningful to the discussion: they don't care about reasons given and those messages don't magically speed up process because no matter what the development experts here may say, pressuring devs won't make them work faster and better.
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First things first, don't pronounce that banned name !!!
Secondly of course it's obvious if you've been in the porn game community long enough, for me it's 15years+ you can easily compare creators to each other, everybody is different and has different drives so having some longer or shorter time frames is normal, however past a certain point it's obvious they are not working on it everyday. Especially that they are 2 I believe wife does art, hubby does rest. Meaning if anything it should be a little faster than most devs who are indeed solo. And don't give me the "but the art is high quality" bullshit, if you've been around the art community a while you'll have learned that people can draw extremely quickly, to this day I'm still shocked at the speed some people draw high quality. Just look around if you don't believe me. Look at speed drawings on youtube as an exemple and check out the insane good looking shit they pull out in like 30 minutes. Again I'm not saying she is one of the speed artist, that's also a skill you train of course, but the point still stands that everything is taking too long to make it a believable work time.
PS: I don't really care about this thread I only check in every 6 months or so xD Just wanna add some fuel for entertainment !