PPeters98

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Friendly reminder: this game is, and has always been, totally free for everyone - on a side note, games kept behind a Patreon tier don't force you to keep an indefinite subscription: you can make one single payment, subscribing just for one month when they are released and that would be a perfectly legit way to get access to that new version (plus all the older benefits given to that tier). Finally, the baby was born in October 2022, the hip surgeries took place in January and March 2023, so I don't really get why anyone should see an issue there (maybe you got your dates wrong?)
well it seems to take a long time now to finish, we we expecting this to be done a few months back. But progress is very slow...
 

Oriandu

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You're projecting dude. I would absolutely not be fabricating bullshit progress reports, and straight up fucking lying to my customers nonstop, pretending I was still busily doing shit when I'm not. Nor would I be able to continue accepting money for months or YEARS while taking a break from work.

It's kind of like some people commit insurance fraud, disability fraud, worker's comp fraud, etc. etc.... Not everyone does. It's called not being a scumbag.
I'm not projecting a single solitary thing, you're denying human nature. It is human to take the fastest, easiest, most lucrative path through life possible. If you are ever in a situation like the one in question you will be tempted to take that easy path. The fact that you are not and probably never will be in such a scenario means you can postulate about taking the high road until the cows come home, but the truth of the matter is that you would bare minimum be tempted to game the system and you probably would.
 

moskyx

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I think I know why people here are angry with this dev...
Probably because they don't read my messages anymore. Pistachio's words about posing are basically what I said one month ago:

This is 3 lines of text in a complex scene in WaL:

Python:
    show abusmall ewide sangry
    show pov enarrow hfneu2 hbneu2 msmile bangry scrazyhair
    show rose basemessy xwings xhornsnude enarrow bangryn msmile at s_left:
        xalign -0.5 alpha 1
    $ renpy.music.set_volume(0.8, channel='sfx4')
    play sfx4 "audio/magicdemon2.ogg" fadein 0.5
    abu "WHHHHHAAAAAAATTTTTTT?!" with vpunch
    show rose eneu bupn
    show pov hfreach eclosed bup at m_left with moveinleft:
        xalign 0.3 xzoom -1.0
    show pov hfneu2 eneudown
    show abusmall at t_right with moveoutleft:
        xalign 1.5 xzoom -1.0
    show pov hfneu1 hbneu1 bsad mneu
    show abusmall at t_right with quickdissolve:
        xzoom 1.0 xalign 1.5
    show rose bsadn
    show abusmall eangry sangry
    with quickdissolve
    pov "Ah, Rose, I was worried you wouldn't come."
    show rose ewide bupn mneu
    show pov ewideb bup mcry
    show abusmall eangry
    abu "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!" with vpunch
And that's basically the same for every piece of dialog. That's what they call 'posing'. This coding structure you see above needs to be done for every single dialog line in the game (maybe on a different scale, but still), and then you need to replay the scene taking extra care to detect if every single one of those short orders works as intended and make actual sense. Of course, if you edit the dialog lines, all those orders need to be adjusted too, and then checked once again.
Another reason may be that this is one of the few devs who don't lure people into thinking 'the update is around the corner' but keeps saying that it will take as much time as he needs to create a similar experience to previous updates (that's his next message, that for some reason you choose not to include in this screenshot you posted here after he wrote that second, missing message). And, well, people here tend to want everything tailored around their own wishes and whims, and sometimes that's not how things work in real life, and they get angry.
 
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fusibile87

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Lmao for Christmas... they really started working for this two months ago

Probably because they don't read my messages anymore. Pistachio's words about posing are basically what I said one month ago:


Another reason may be that this is one of the few devs who don't lure people into thinking 'the update is around the corner' but keeps saying that it will take as much time as he needs to create a similar experience to previous updates (that's his next message, that for some reason you choose not to include in this screenshot you posted here after he wrote that second, missing message). And, well, people here tend to want everything tailored around their own wishes and whims, and sometimes that's not how things work in real life, and they get angry.
Why they are basically redoing everything two years into the update? Oh yeah, they are not redoing it, they asre starting doing things now. Those dialogues aren't being "updated", they are being created right now after two years of not working
 

moskyx

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Lmao for Christmas... they really started working for this two months ago



Why they are basically redoing everything two years into the update? Oh yeah, they are not redoing it, they asre starting doing things now. Those dialogues aren't being "updated", they are being created right now after two years of not working
He didn't say Christmas is the new deadline, ffs. Learn how to read
 
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Kisama33

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I think I know why people here are angry with this dev...
The whole interaction is cool and all but omg the only thing that is calling my attention all the time, even now are those 15634 pings, and I thought that I had a problem with my 3300+ tabs on Firefox and then more 1200+ tabs on Chrome, god lord just delete that account and make a brand new on.

'.'.'.'.'.SAVE YOURSELF FROM THAT "pINg nIGtmaRe".'.'.'.'.'








Nah, I joking, just do whatever you want, you are fine, I am fine and everything is fine, as long as any of us doesn't spot any dog sit on a chair surrounded by flames we are fine
 
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DemiMaximoff

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Probably because they don't read my messages anymore. Pistachio's words about posing are basically what I said one month ago:


Another reason may be that this is one of the few devs who don't lure people into thinking 'the update is around the corner' but keeps saying that it will take as much time as he needs to create a similar experience to previous updates (that's his next message, that for some reason you choose not to include in this screenshot you posted here after he wrote that second, missing message). And, well, people here tend to want everything tailored around their own wishes and whims, and sometimes that's not how things work in real life, and they get angry.
The dude who's sunk money into a scam is in denial to justify his spendings. Who could have thought
 

BlacxXanderz

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Probably because they don't read my messages anymore. Pistachio's words about posing are basically what I said one month ago:


Another reason may be that this is one of the few devs who don't lure people into thinking 'the update is around the corner' but keeps saying that it will take as much time as he needs to create a similar experience to previous updates (that's his next message, that for some reason you choose not to include in this screenshot you posted here after he wrote that second, missing message). And, well, people here tend to want everything tailored around their own wishes and whims, and sometimes that's not how things work in real life, and they get angry.
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You mean, this? Look at the time when I wrote the screenshot comment here and the time when dev write new comment in discord dude. I just think dev mustn't give the answer like that to their supporters and fans. They had receive amount of money from patreon, it's like you have a job and target for the project to complete. But you give your supporters and fans the answers like the project never meet the ending. And that's why I think people here get mad with this dev.

And you know, why I ask the dev "do you still have guts to join the conversation in F95?" a few weeks or days ago? (I forgot) Because people here are very frustated with this update. They always support the dev (people get mad and angry 'cause they still believe with this game). If the dev itself give the answer here, or maybe update this thread, I think people here will really understanding about the reason or the answer. They just need the dev to give certainty this thread (or game) is not abandoned.
 
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Mordikay

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Probably because they don't read my messages anymore. Pistachio's words about posing are basically what I said one month ago:


Another reason may be that this is one of the few devs who don't lure people into thinking 'the update is around the corner' but keeps saying that it will take as much time as he needs to create a similar experience to previous updates (that's his next message, that for some reason you choose not to include in this screenshot you posted here after he wrote that second, missing message). And, well, people here tend to want everything tailored around their own wishes and whims, and sometimes that's not how things work in real life, and they get angry.
To be fair to the guy I don't think anyone reads your msgs anymore when it's all just making excuses for the ones holding the leash.
 

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You mean, this? Look at the time when I wrote the screenshot comment here and the time when dev write new comment in discord dude. I just think dev mustn't give the answer like that to their supporters and fans. They had receive amount of money from patreon, it's like you have a job and target for the project to complete. But you give your supporters and fans the answers like the project never meet the ending. And that's why I think people here get mad with this dev.

And you know, why I ask the dev "do you still have guts to join the conversation in F95?" a few weeks or days ago? (I forgot) Because people here are very frustated with this update. They always support the dev (people get mad and angry 'cause they still believe with this game). If the dev itself give the answer here, or maybe update this thread, I think people here will really understanding about the reason or the answer. They just need the dev to give certainty this thread (or game) is not abandoned.
If there is still such a thing like "fans" in this thread and they are that interested in knowing what is going on they can just join the discord and ask there. Expecting a dev to go to each platform and forum where there is supposed to be "fans" waiting for news is naive especially in a situation like this.

They come here, give their excuses and then what? Just the usual, a group of people (that is now predominant for obvious reason) will gather around, call them liers and scammers, distorce their words to fit their own versions of the story and then laugh together in commemoration for whatever they believe to have accomplished.

But that would not only help only them having fun, would help the devs too, because they would get even another excuse to blame for the "delay", they could just claim that because they now have to spend more time with "damage control" they can't work as much as they wished and because of that the update will take even longer than planned and I don't think fans would want that, and if all they needed is a direct explanation to "believe" in the whole story about the development of the update then they really are easier to trick (not taking any sides here, there may be no trick or lies or scams going on here).

Now an advice to you and everyone else that maybe in the same situation, if you are not here to troll and have fun around with the situation and you are actually sad or frustrated with all of this, for more harder that it may sound, JUST FORGET ABOUT THE GAME, for a year, for a decade, forever if it needs to be, if you are not feeling well with the situation then it's nor worthy, you should not feel frustrated for not getting what you want when you want and if you don't know how to deal with that the best you can do it's not deal at all.
 
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