allah88

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From the FAQ:

What is the next (0.6) update about?
Rose (and only Rose's story + a threesome with Myrtle)
What will the 0.7 and 0.8 updates be about?
The 0.7 update will focus on Gomira's story (and most likely only Gomira's). After we're done with 0.6 and while working on 0.7, we will run a Patreon poll to determine the focus of 0.8.

So not in v0.6 nor v0.7. If you are a Patreon, you'll most probably be able to vote for some Gretta content for v0.8 after the next update.
so in around 3 years sadly
 

whichone

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so in around 3 years sadly
No real ability to place a timescale on it.
It depends on paying supporters' preferences.
If they do not vote for her, instead choosing other characters, then other characters will take priority.
As with all things, we'll just have to wait & see.
You never know, you might might be pleasantly surprised, or not.

Only way to influence it, is to become a paying supporter.
Otherwise you're in the same boat as me - beggars can't be choosers.
 

whichone

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Just came back after a month to see if there was some real progress left once again dissapointed o_O.
You can only be disappointed if you expected something.
There clearly has been progress, it's shown in the progress tracker.
Just to prove the point, see here for the Progress Tracker from last Thursday & compare it to the one for today, in the OP.
There's a clear, distinct difference & the progress is "real".
What did you expect to see, over & above that?
 
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obibobi

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I love how Square Enix can take years to release a FF or KH and everyone accepts it but 2 people taking a few months to release a porn game and everyone loses their minds lol
That's deflecting also whether everyone accepts it or not, those are products with one off payments, the company gains nothing by waiting so long between releases. The patreon model provides insentive to work slower.

I'm saying this as an outsider, never actually played the game, just curious
 

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That's deflecting also whether everyone accepts it or not, those are products with one off payments, the company gains nothing by waiting so long between releases. The patreon model provides insentive to work slower.

I'm saying this as an outsider, never actually played the game, just curious
Well since you never played the game then you probably don't know that A) this is actually a free game and the devs don't lock it behind a patreon wall b) it's a two person team with a lot of 2d artwork c) the devs offer refunds and d) the updates focus on one character and pretty much finish the majority of the planned content for that character

There's a lot of reason why the development is slow and the patreon is just for people who want to support them. People just have no faith in devs. Every thread on this site is this same shit where people want to whine about being milked. It's frustrating that that the updates take a while and I know there are some devs that do milk but those devs but that doesnt mean every dev does that. You can usually tell which devs milk stuff and which ones don't based on how much cotent they put in each update and often they update their patreon or communicate with supporters. There's a lot of content in each of these updates so it's not surprising there's a lot of time in between them.
 

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That's deflecting also whether everyone accepts it or not, those are products with one off payments, the company gains nothing by waiting so long between releases. The patreon model provides insentive to work slower.

I'm saying this as an outsider, never actually played the game, just curious
I can see the sense in your theory, but just because the payment model offers the incentive/enables the behaviour, it cannot automatically be universally applied to all devs.

To be fair and accurate, this is a product which has no requirement for a payment of any kind.
The available evidence shows that the dev for this game works hard, has integrity & takes responsibility.
They want each release to be bug-free, spelling error free & for it to work exactly as planned.
I expect that this is why they have many patrons who are happy to support them, but it takes time to achieve that.
 
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whichone

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I love it how these individuals have the audacity to think they can tell other people how to spend their money.
2,000+ people are perfectly happy to financially support this dev & feel they are getting value for their money.
Circa 5 people on here think they know better.

It's none of your fucking business how other people choose to spend their money.
Take your salty bitters and go back to your corner.
 
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Porn_Jesus

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I love it how these idiots think they can tell other people how to spend their money.
2,000+ people are perfectly happy to financially support this dev & feel they are getting value for their money.
Circa 5 people on here think they know better.

I've got news for you 5 - it's none of your fucking business how other people choose to spend their money.
They want to be great manipulators behind their screen. Let the children keep playing in the sandbox or there will be tears.^^'
 
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Let us see; right now their Patreon is at $8,219 per month. Right away take off about 30% to get a rough estimate of what Patreon and the tax collector take off. That leaves you with $5,753 per month net income then x12 for per year and you get $69,036 then divide by 2 since it is a husband and wife partnership and this is per person income since they are both working on this and not at another job get you $34,518 per year or in the neighborhood of $18/hr full time.

If anyone wants to refute my math. By all means please show me your math or hold your peace.
 

whichone

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Let us see; right now their Patreon is at $8,219 per month. Right away take off about 30% to get a rough estimate of what Patreon and the tax collector take off. That leaves you with $5,753 per month net income then x12 for per year and you get $69,036 then divide by 2 since it is a husband and wife partnership and this is per person income since they are both working on this and not at another job get you $34,518 per year or in the neighborhood of $18/hr full time.

If anyone wants to refute my math. By all means please show me your math or hold your peace.
30% is a fair estimate.
Circa 20% tax (UK & US rates), Patreon fees are 5% for Lite, 8% for Pro.
There is also a Premium bracket at 12%, but I doubt many devs have gone for that.
They also charge 2.5% per foreign payment conversion.

$18 p/h is obviously calculated on a 40 hour work week ($2,876.5 pcm / 160 = 17.9).
I suspect you can add quite a bit more to this pair's weekly hours, so their hourly rate is probably considerably lower.
If they work a 60 hour week, it's $2,876.5 / 240 = $11.9 p/h.
 
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Let us see; right now their Patreon is at $8,219 per month. Right away take off about 30% to get a rough estimate of what Patreon and the tax collector take off. That leaves you with $5,753 per month net income then x12 for per year and you get $69,036 then divide by 2 since it is a husband and wife partnership and this is per person income since they are both working on this and not at another job get you $34,518 per year or in the neighborhood of $18/hr full time.

If anyone wants to refute my math. By all means please show me your math or hold your peace.
Not just that, self-employed work is actually hard If you are not organized. I write this from experience: the money keeps coming (regardless if you work or not), you focus on dead ends and your deadline stretches because time flies when you are distracted. When you have a third party establishing how much you work, when the work needs to be finished or what part of the project to focus, can be sometimes better...and you end up losing money (aka being fired) if you fail any goal.

Some devs are just poor time managers, others scammers or simply start slacking as they see the money pile up.

If some backers keep supporting and feeding the devs bad habits or bad service, it's their individual choice...
 
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