VN Ren'Py Where It All Began [Ch. 3 Full] [Oceanlab]

[slightchance]

"I am 850 animation renders and 55 stills into the first Chapter of the rework."

Does this mean the rework will be finished in summer 2021? Of course not. He will get new graphics cards next year to create totally different problems.

P.S.: Fuck those animations. They take too much time and yield so little. This is TAC all over again.

 

[DuckDairyDip]

Finally got around to the update/rework stuff for Where it All Began, not very far, but the big difference is I care about Miru more. I guess the character design update helped. Before I wanted to get rid of her asap, now I enjoy her company. Hope those GPU upgrades help with the development process of both games going forward and future proofing.

 

[slightchance]

What is TAC

The Adventurous Couple. A project that got delayed for over a year to rework several chapters, only to introduce other bugs and inconsistencies in the story and almost no overhaul of the couple's dynamic. A few changes in the script here and there would have had the same impact with only a fraction of the time.

WiAB's rework will have two releases with two chapters each. If the first chapter already has 850 animations (up to v.05 there were 23 animations and ~4,5k renders) think about how much further the story could have progressed already. Especially since the animations suck big time. Compare them to the animations from The Spellbook and you know what I mean (another bad example is Deliverance).

 

[Donettes]

The Adventurous Couple. A project that got delayed for over a year to rework several chapters, only to introduce other bugs and inconsistencies in the story and almost no overhaul of the couple's dynamic. A few changes in the script here and there would have had the same impact with only a fraction of the time.

WiAB's rework will have two releases with two chapters each. If the first chapter already has 850 animations (up to v.05 there were 23 animations and ~4,5k renders) think about how much further the story could have progressed already. Especially since the animations suck big time. Compare them to the animations from The Spellbook and you know what I mean (another bad example is Deliverance).

He has 850 animations renders, not 850 animations scenes. A simple animated kiss scene can have dozens of renders. Or a better example, the Ch.6 changelog: Around 1000 still renders, 25+ animations (~ 1400 renders) and 2 Cinematics (~ 3150 renders).

That everything would go much faster if there were no animations and cinematics, just still renders? Obviously, but that's the last thing Ocean would want for both of his projects (WIAB and Summer's Gone). If you are one of his patrons and you don't like this, simply stop supporting him because clearly your tastes are very different from what Ocean wants to offer. But surely you are one of us, a faithful F95 pirate, so well you will always have this thread to complain about everything you don't like

 

[slightchance]

But surely you are one of us, a faithful F95 pirate, so well you will always have this thread to complain about everything you don't like

Thanks mate

Yeah, in a fit of rage (I blame it on the rum) I read that he made 850 animations. With about 4 renders each...oh well, I just want to have solid wank. All those reworks are making me thirsty.

 

[hellomate1]

I just want to have solid wank.

Wrong games and author if all you want with the game is to scrape the hog. Ocean has repeatedly stated that his games aren't porn games, but rather mature narrative games with graphic content along the way.

Trust me, I get the passion. Even if it is misplaced being that this IS a pirate site. I think we all should just consider ourselves lucky that Ocean is on here and interacts with us - as he could just not have anything to do with this site and simply DMCA anyone who tries to upload his games, and he would be well within his rights to do so.

 

[Odin73]

I don´t think so because I played it again and I got no error with Donna. Your Logfile also does sound a little weird maybe because you didn´t post the full log ( best option would be to attach the whole file ).

Guess I will have to reinstall

 

[slightchance]

Ocean has repeatedly stated that his games aren't porn games, but rather mature narrative games with graphic content along the way.

Nice straw man. I didn't say anything about whether WiAB is a porn game or not. I'll say this though: No one would care for the story if it wasn't for the candid material.

I think we all should just consider ourselves lucky that Ocean is on here and interacts with us - as he could just not have anything to do with this site and simply DMCA anyone who tries to upload his games, and he would be well within his rights to do so.

Dude, F95 isn't the sole provider of porn games. And if other parts of the entertainment industry aren't able to stop pirates, what the is Oceanlab supposed to do about it?

 

[PinkGoddess]

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Hello,

1. Dedicating one PC to each game.
2. New GPU cards.
3. More words to the rework.

1. Dedicating one PC to each game

As most of you remember, I said that I can now dedicate both PC's to developing one game at a time which should speed up development a lot.

And it did but I am running into something that is getting really annoying.

There are three huge reasons why I will change my approach.

1.
If an asset is on PC #1 then I can't turn PC #1 off while PC #2 renders.
In addition to that, my network connection does sometimes fail, which will lead to an error message when a new render that I had in the queue gets loaded.
I always render overnight and when this error suddenly appears, it will stop the entire render process and I will wake up to no rendered images and an error message.
2.
Since May, Daz hasn't gotten updated. There is this really annoying bug, that if you save an animation, certain morphs won't be saved with it.
For example, You animate the pussy in rhythm with the cock and you save the animation. When you now load it up, the pussy won't move anymore and I have to do it all over again. The big problem here is.. If the animation/Daz crashes mid render, I can't just proceed from where it crashed, because there is no way I will be able to replicate the exact movements of the pussy I had before. (This save bug appears when I set up an animation on PC #1 and want to render it on PC#2.) (PC #1 has a lot of WiAB stuff while PC #2 has many SG related things)
3.
If I modify a skin map or any other map in Daz, PC#1 will search for it where it was saved first. If I now open anything related to this scene on PC#2, Daz can't find certain things anymore.

For the last month I divided the two games onto one PC each. So from now on PC#1 will be fully WiAB dedicated and PC#2 will be SG.
This means both will get developed simultaneously. I have been doing this for around 3 weeks now and I haven't seen any error messages anymore. Except the usual Daz fatal error one, which is just Daz being Daz.

I am 850 animation renders and 55 stills into the first Chapter of the rework.
At the moment, I do spend a lot of time creating the enviroments. And till Chapter 2, this is still going to be a thing. But as soon as I have set up all the enviroments, developing will speed up a notch.

2. New GPU cards

Most of you must have heard about the new 30xx series by now.
To my surprise, they are a lot cheaper and stronger than I thought. I will get two 3090's as soon as possible and next year I will get another two 3090's. (Both PC's featuring two 3090's.)
Two 3090's are more than 6 times as strong as my current setup in each PC.
This will change everything but I am afraid I won't be able to get the first two before December due to them probably being sold out in minutes.

3. More words to the rework.

I will show you one of the first renders today but don't really see this as the first preview., because this was more of a test render.

The first real preview will be in Dev log #2 and this upcoming preview.. Let's just say, we began slowly reaching for the stars.

- Ocean

I cant wait for the next update.. daamn

 

[damndor]

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Hello,

1. Dedicating one PC to each game.
2. New GPU cards.
3. More words to the rework.

1. Dedicating one PC to each game

As most of you remember, I said that I can now dedicate both PC's to developing one game at a time which should speed up development a lot.

And it did but I am running into something that is getting really annoying.

There are three huge reasons why I will change my approach.

1.
If an asset is on PC #1 then I can't turn PC #1 off while PC #2 renders.
In addition to that, my network connection does sometimes fail, which will lead to an error message when a new render that I had in the queue gets loaded.
I always render overnight and when this error suddenly appears, it will stop the entire render process and I will wake up to no rendered images and an error message.
2.
Since May, Daz hasn't gotten updated. There is this really annoying bug, that if you save an animation, certain morphs won't be saved with it.
For example, You animate the pussy in rhythm with the cock and you save the animation. When you now load it up, the pussy won't move anymore and I have to do it all over again. The big problem here is.. If the animation/Daz crashes mid render, I can't just proceed from where it crashed, because there is no way I will be able to replicate the exact movements of the pussy I had before. (This save bug appears when I set up an animation on PC #1 and want to render it on PC#2.) (PC #1 has a lot of WiAB stuff while PC #2 has many SG related things)
3.
If I modify a skin map or any other map in Daz, PC#1 will search for it where it was saved first. If I now open anything related to this scene on PC#2, Daz can't find certain things anymore.

For the last month I divided the two games onto one PC each. So from now on PC#1 will be fully WiAB dedicated and PC#2 will be SG.
This means both will get developed simultaneously. I have been doing this for around 3 weeks now and I haven't seen any error messages anymore. Except the usual Daz fatal error one, which is just Daz being Daz.

I am 850 animation renders and 55 stills into the first Chapter of the rework.
At the moment, I do spend a lot of time creating the enviroments. And till Chapter 2, this is still going to be a thing. But as soon as I have set up all the enviroments, developing will speed up a notch.

2. New GPU cards

Most of you must have heard about the new 30xx series by now.
To my surprise, they are a lot cheaper and stronger than I thought. I will get two 3090's as soon as possible and next year I will get another two 3090's. (Both PC's featuring two 3090's.)
Two 3090's are more than 6 times as strong as my current setup in each PC.
This will change everything but I am afraid I won't be able to get the first two before December due to them probably being sold out in minutes.

3. More words to the rework.

I will show you one of the first renders today but don't really see this as the first preview., because this was more of a test render.

The first real preview will be in Dev log #2 and this upcoming preview.. Let's just say, we began slowly reaching for the stars.

- Ocean

As some above me says; I cannot wait for the next update!

I cannot believe i still haven't gotten the FULL version of 0.6! I still have 0.5... Got my evening covered then, it seems!

Looking very promising this, for sure! Cannot wait!

 

[Max1276]

Oceanlab cant wait to continue play one of the best amazing game ever

 

[Huhuriu55]

Hey I did whatever I could to not make William and Miru cheat on each other but she still left William... Why ?

 

[Zaiross]

Hey I did whatever I could to not make William and Miru cheat on each other but she still left William... Why ?

If I remember correctly she left with her sister.

 

[skyrimhunter97]

With the rework, I hope that the sibling rivalry is still there.

 

[OneLuv]

Hey I did whatever I could to not make William and Miru cheat on each other but she still left William... Why ?

If I remember correctly she left with her sister.

I think even if you are on the cheat route (unless you broke up with her) she still leaves with her sister.

 

[Mrblack]

The plot of this story is amazing! Nothing like your normal incest/harem games ,cant wait for the new update.

 

[Deleted member 1691628]

The plot of this story is amazing! Nothing like your normal incest/harem games ,cant wait for the new update.

Agree, I like the story so far, have found myself going back to various saved points trying various options as well.

 

[Deleted member 2412505]

The plot of this story is amazing! Nothing like your normal incest/harem games ,cant wait for the new update.

It depends on the dev. Some dev will never disappoint you like phillyGames, hope, dots, Daniel etc cause they make many harem games and their story is very captivating.

 

[SomeGuyWithNoImagination]

It depends on the dev. Some dev will never disappoint you like phillyGames, hope, dots, Daniel etc cause they make many harem games and their story is very captivating.

Oceanlab's a perfectionist but also learns by doing. He won't release anything that he thinks is short of perfect.

While I do hope that the next updates are great, it's less of a "I hope" and more of a "I know" because even if there are issues, he's actually responded to my criticisms before and I fully believe he'll take any major future criticims to heart to make the next update better.

 

[Jackie123]

so whats the status update of the new version? Relaese somewhere near?