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ok, but I haven't received any Ocean quality in WIAB for two years... very nice renders with zero content.
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First of all, the last WIAB was just over a year ago, not two. Second of all, he's reworking the game with a better narrative and way better renders, so I don't see a problem with that. And third of all, he's making another fantastic game that received two huge updates this year. So what's your point?
- Sep 3, 2020
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I thought this was the WIAB thread, sorry I was wrong, so I have to play SG only? If you like it and want to defend it, go ahead, I'm not going to stop you, but don't want to run me off with those arguments.
- Feb 22, 2019
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Yeah, completely ignore my two other points just so you can continue on with your bullshit narrative. Good one.
- Sep 3, 2020
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ohhhh bullshit narrative, good one. In the meantime, I am still waiting for new content from WIAB.
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What are you, his PR agent?
Update frequency isn't that bad? No way this is not satire. Bruh!
Also we can talk about quality when there's a game. There's no game. Please don't overhype him. Ocean is good but you're pretending like he's the second coming of Jesus or something.
- Feb 22, 2019
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There is no game? Wait a second, what thread is this? Is this thread about the Mona Lisa?
We can't talk about the quality? Yeah you are right, he hasn't shown his game development skills in like forever... Oh wait, he just dropped an update of his other game like a week ago, maybe I should check it out.
Update frequency is bad? If you think 6/7 months per update is so bad that what I said was satire, give me an example of a dev that releases them so much faster with equal or better quality AND same amount of renders. I know you are gonna think of PinkCake or Philly but those guys make much more money and have been making games for a longer time, so it wouldn't be a fair comparison (and I still think Ocean's renders look better).
Can't deny the quality, but it's 6/7 month for half a chapter, so yes it's bad frequency.
- Feb 22, 2019
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It may be half a chapter but it has ~1400 renders and cinematics. So it might as well be a huge ass update.
Go ahead, tell me. You guys keep saying it's bad frequency but you aren't basing it on anything.
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I couldn't care about summer's gone even if the girls in it came out of your screen and personally jerked you off. We are talking about WIAB.
And this game thread is for the game that used to be. Which got scrapped. And is being completely remade from the beginning. So the game doesn't exist as long as that 1st update doesn't come out.
Also stop with the excuse that Philly and DPK make much more. They didn't start making that much from day 1. They were consistent and released regular updates and people paid them for it. Ocean isn't going to get thousands of patreons just based on faith that he's working on an update and it's going to come out.
No one in this thread is calling him a milker or denying that he's working on an update. But the fact that there hasn't been an update for more than a year and that we have no idea how frequent his updates are going to be, I think a little bit of criticism is more than justified.
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I agree with everything you said, but we have to face the reality: more support and money is not going to come for Ocean with time-consuming updates. Many of the biggest devs on Patreon are in this position not only because the updates are good and big on renders and content, but also because they deliver those updates in a reasonable amount of time. And some even have finished games already which increases people's confidence that that dev, even if it takes 5-6 months to release an update, is capable of finishing a game.
At the moment, Ocean is an early career dev with no game finished, working on two games at the same time. One of them is not updated for more than a year and the other takes more than 6 months to update. And both games are slated to have 30 chapters and neither of them has even a third of the chapters released. How much support does Ocean fail to receive simply because people look at the planned size of the games, the frequency of updates and don't believe these projects are viable? Or because they just don't want to support a game that could take two decades to complete, no matter how high quality the content is?
And Ocean games at the moment have another big "downside" (highlight the quotes) which is the lack of sexual content. Yes I know, SG and WIAB are not porn games, they are story based games with adult elements and sex will only come after a lot of character building and development. And that's great, that's what makes the games unique. But again, let's face it. That's another thing that gets in the way of increasing support because many people don't think it's reasonable to wait longer than 6 months for an update without any sexual content, even though the characters and story are well written and engaging.
So yes, updating in a reasonable and consistent time is very important in this moment, in my POV. To make the game progress faster and increase people's interest and trust in the developer and the game, which translates into more support and money.
But understand, I don't mean by this that Ocean has to do anything to release updates faster, like decreasing the quantity and quality of content or working 24/7 and getting completely burned out. I don't want that and I also wanted him to get a lot more support than he does now. I just wanted to point out these things I wrote because I also completely understand people being skeptical and frustrated with the future of the games.
P.S: Sorry for any mistakes, english is not my fist language. I hope that even with theses, i make myself clear.
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This shows his worst issue, and it feels really weird to even say it's an issue, but it is. Some developers half-ass things. Are lazy. Are uncaring about the quality of their product. Ocean is the opposite , where he goes to unreasonable and impractical extremes to maximize the quality of the game.
Whatever equipment he has, he'll always max it out. I bet, even if he had those A6000's, updates wouldn't be quicker. He'd just make the renders, animations, cinematics and whatever else even more complex or do more of them. He's a perfectionist to the extreme, and that really slows things down.
He doesn't appear to be able to say "Ok, this is good enough". He just reworked more stuff from Summers Gone too, because the assets used didn't meet his requirements. There will be better assets released between now and the next few years. What are the odds he doesn't try to redo more stuff with those newer, higher quality assets?
Others have mentioned Philly and Pinkcake, he's pretty much trying to be both of them at the same time. The artistic quality of Philly + the content quantity of Pinkcake. Not to mention doing 2 games at once.
Just as a matter of fact, it's better to make a B+ game with consistent updates rather than a A+ game that gets updated every once in a while. If you want to make money making adult themed games, you have to be consistent and reliable. People support developers so they can make the game they like, but at the end of the day they still expect their payments to result in something tangible.
Whatever equipment he has, he'll always max it out. I bet, even if he had those A6000's, updates wouldn't be quicker. He'd just make the renders, animations, cinematics and whatever else even more complex or do more of them. He's a perfectionist to the extreme, and that really slows things down.
He doesn't appear to be able to say "Ok, this is good enough". He just reworked more stuff from Summers Gone too, because the assets used didn't meet his requirements. There will be better assets released between now and the next few years. What are the odds he doesn't try to redo more stuff with those newer, higher quality assets?
Others have mentioned Philly and Pinkcake, he's pretty much trying to be both of them at the same time. The artistic quality of Philly + the content quantity of Pinkcake. Not to mention doing 2 games at once.
Just as a matter of fact, it's better to make a B+ game with consistent updates rather than a A+ game that gets updated every once in a while. If you want to make money making adult themed games, you have to be consistent and reliable. People support developers so they can make the game they like, but at the end of the day they still expect their payments to result in something tangible.
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you can totally avoid that and not once have to deal with that sort of thing even an option to turn it off
- Oct 17, 2019
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comon we already know that the cry babys will suck his dick after the updade drops and worship him as the next elon musk or if I look what a lot of people write in this forum I guess Jordan Peterson would be more close 
Tbh, 99% of games with incest patches actually restore most of the cohesion to the narratives and relationships of characters in the story tbh. If one or more of your romance options weren't written to be related, there usually isn't an incest patch. This game is no different.
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I am pretty sure by the time next two update comes I would end up forgetting half of the story & at this rate this game would take another 5 yrs to complete. I can understand more focus on SG as it brings you more money but that shouldn’t be a reason give step treatment to this game. Stalling the updates for such longer time would make people loose interest in the game.
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5 years to finsh ? .. someone's optimistic .
at this point my great grandkids will finsh this game for me
- Oct 17, 2019
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The money thing its maybe because he had realesed 2 updates of SG since the last update of WIAB?