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Thanks. I'll show this to my wife. Surely she'll let me marry another woman now.
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It would be horrible if this game gets abandoned 
. I like it so much
. I like it so much
- May 9, 2019
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Please film the experience. I'll make popcorn for everyone.
You might need help eat them, though.
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We need some drink too. What the best think to drink while eating popcorn? Pepsi for me. What y'all want
- Sep 5, 2017
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Exactly. I like both, but SG more. (I am not into ntr stuff) So yeah. Superwriter does 2 games at once, but those are very short updates and both games are far from SG s level even Wiab s quality. That is why I am saying, this cannot end well.
- Oct 20, 2019
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You guys can get angry at me if you want, but the cold hard truth is this game is never getting finished, sadly. SG has a chance to get finished, albeit it will take a couple decades or so.
You can expect a few "wallpapers" and "WIP" screenshots every couple months. And maybe a small "rework/remake" patch every couple of years. But actually finishing it? I don't see it happening.
It's no wonder he is investing his (limited) time into SG, as it's not stuck in rework limbo, not to mention it's earning him more cash.
WIAB only has a real chance if he recruits/hire helpers. Alone a man can only do so much. It's even made worse by the fact he is a "perfectionist".
You can expect a few "wallpapers" and "WIP" screenshots every couple months. And maybe a small "rework/remake" patch every couple of years. But actually finishing it? I don't see it happening.
It's no wonder he is investing his (limited) time into SG, as it's not stuck in rework limbo, not to mention it's earning him more cash.
WIAB only has a real chance if he recruits/hire helpers. Alone a man can only do so much. It's even made worse by the fact he is a "perfectionist".
- Jun 11, 2021
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Where it all begins is pretty good, I don't think the game needed to be reworked tho but I guess Ocean had different plans with the game.. Me personally I like SG way better, not saying I don't like WIAB cause I do(I'm glad the NTR stuff was avoidable btw) but I like summer's gone more and it would be much better if he only focused on SG instead of trying to do both.. One update a year is not good at all So it's not worth it working on both games when itll just take decades for both to be updated or completed.. Rather finish SG first then work on WIAB
- May 9, 2019
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I prefer coke over pepsi, but both are great options.
It really does need a rework. IT is not an aesthetic problem, even if you can see that the level of art he can do right now, not just cute renders but in a more profound level, like like, ambient, mood of the scenes is on a totally different level of his original work. The real problem is that the story and character behavior is inconsistent.
This happened as a lot of original decisions were made when Ocean was a newbie and he was following polls and recommendations from patreon. But those ideas do no longer work in the kind of story he wants to tell.
And once again, many people have suggested him to focus on one and then do the other. He has rejected the idea many times, for different reasons. So it is what it is.
I only drink Coke solo, Pepsi is a little lighter than Coke so it mixes really well with popcorn
- May 24, 2019
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Damn you Oceanlab ლಠ益ಠ)ლ !, I really did not expect I would have fallen for a character as close to Leia since I saw this
hands down the most erotic art I have seen that makes me want to frame it on a wall !or maybe a desktop wallpaper
Who is the other dame you say ?
Dana, the only reason apart from a cutie like Dana desiring to be dominated I am not fully into Leia like most people are into Bella in SG is because her darkness will be a detriment into any relation long term, her need to alienate any females(including katie and excluding the mother and aunt) from MC is sign of not being able to regulate her affection for him which might smother him later on, or atleast that is what I think it to be.
Now having played SG I was perplexed how disconnected the writing was , but we'll see what the remake holds, as with all things I compared WiAB to SG and felt forced in certain things like
since I saw this
hands down the most erotic art I have seen that makes me want to frame it on a wall !
Who is the other dame you say ?
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, the only reason Now having played SG I was perplexed how disconnected the writing was , but we'll see what the remake holds, as with all things I compared WiAB to SG and felt forced in certain things like
- Trauma, which comes out of nowhere in ep 6, I didn't notice any signs of it prior to it when he was in police custody or in state prison (mind you a person having trauma would exhibit discomfort immediately when placed in the undesired environment and later on as the pressure builds it seeps in action and speech making them behave unnaturally or agitated)
- Leia's darkside which isn't even properly addressed in her path and why would you add a commitment early on without addressing it like how we addressed in Katie's ? why the rush ?
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I like Leia!Damn you Oceanlab ლಠ益ಠ)ლ !, I really did not expect I would have fallen for a character as close to Leia
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Honestly I think anything that hasn't been updated in a year should get the abandoned tag until it gets updated. Why give people false hope? Seems like a bad move.
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This is just messing with us. The dev is just milking it. Just put an abandoned tag on it and be done with it.
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The dev said that he will make a post about the current situation of WIAB after the SG beta ends, which should be done this week. Hopefully the update is close, but if it's not out by the end of September, I think he should just abandon it or at least put it on hold till SG is finished. If he can't update the game at least twice a year then it's just a waste of valuable time imo.
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I did calculations and SG won't finish until 2034 at the earliest, thats only if it had 4 updates a year (2 chapters) 30 planned, so if you think he should continue WIAB after SG is finished then ok.. lol
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That is if the current pace,technology, political stability, natural balance remains constant and epidemic doesn't affect the dev, which won't ! , and so the estimation will change again.
it's better to enjoy what we can and support if you have disposable income else focus on things that matter to you.
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It won't be purposely abandoned and he isn't milking, but in addition to other things I've mentioned previously....
Both SG and this game are way, way too big. Too much branching. Too many route combinations. Way too many LI's. I think the "sweet spot" for LI's is between 3-8. Depending on game complexity. These both have like...10-15 each?
You can handle one of the games being that way. Have a "main" game and a simpler side-game. But both of these are mains. And they're both really big main games at that. This is practically trying to do Depraved Awakening and COBD...at the same time.
Regardless of Ocean's skill level (which is very high) and his PC's (which are very good). I just can't see them be completed. And that really sucks because they're both really good games. If they weren't, I wouldn't care as much as I do. To clarify something earlier, I said "purposely" abandoned. I don't think he'll ever do that. He's put way too much into it to say "I'm done". The "abandonment" as in de facto-abandonment or something. The longer it goes, and the more complex it gets. The more he'll wear down. The less interest the game will get. The odds just aren't favorable. I guess abandonment via attrition is what I'm talking about.
I want to be an optimist. But I can't see it. I'd give it like a 10% chance. The current schedule isn't sustainable. The typical game is completed in 2-3 years. These games are on pace for a decade or more. Something will happen, sooner or later. It has to.
I think the best course is to work on SG 85% of the time. And then work on the re-work of this the rest. Do a SG update every 2-3 months, like his goal is. And do a WIAB release 1-2 times a year. And I know this isn't going to happen...but I'd re-write what hasn't been in the updates yet. Wouldn't touch the stuff already in the games. But slim down the rest of it. Simplify things. Bring the scope down and the odds of completion go up significantly.
Both SG and this game are way, way too big. Too much branching. Too many route combinations. Way too many LI's. I think the "sweet spot" for LI's is between 3-8. Depending on game complexity. These both have like...10-15 each?
You can handle one of the games being that way. Have a "main" game and a simpler side-game. But both of these are mains. And they're both really big main games at that. This is practically trying to do Depraved Awakening and COBD...at the same time.
Regardless of Ocean's skill level (which is very high) and his PC's (which are very good). I just can't see them be completed. And that really sucks because they're both really good games. If they weren't, I wouldn't care as much as I do. To clarify something earlier, I said "purposely" abandoned. I don't think he'll ever do that. He's put way too much into it to say "I'm done". The "abandonment" as in de facto-abandonment or something. The longer it goes, and the more complex it gets. The more he'll wear down. The less interest the game will get. The odds just aren't favorable. I guess abandonment via attrition is what I'm talking about.
I want to be an optimist. But I can't see it. I'd give it like a 10% chance. The current schedule isn't sustainable. The typical game is completed in 2-3 years. These games are on pace for a decade or more. Something will happen, sooner or later. It has to.
I think the best course is to work on SG 85% of the time. And then work on the re-work of this the rest. Do a SG update every 2-3 months, like his goal is. And do a WIAB release 1-2 times a year. And I know this isn't going to happen...but I'd re-write what hasn't been in the updates yet. Wouldn't touch the stuff already in the games. But slim down the rest of it. Simplify things. Bring the scope down and the odds of completion go up significantly.
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I reluctantly agree with this sentiment. We're only 6 chapters in and each one has widened the pool of LI's and thrown in more plot, some of which makes little sense. It already feels like you'd need a team of people producing an update every month to build a meaningful relationship with your choice(s) of the core women and tell the unfolding story in a satisfactory way over the course of 2-3 more years. Quarterly updates or fewer just pushes the projected timescale off into unrealistic territory. Either they'll be starved of funds as interest wanes or the demands of life - career, family, health - will take priority at some point. Which is a great pity because there's a lot to like in this game.